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RNG posted:Creepy New Yorker article I'm reading right now about a Polish murderer who more or less wrote a novel exposing himself. This was a fantastic read! Don't skip over this link. I did laugh when he claimed the police black-bagged him, curb stomped him, stripped him naked, and then the inspector introduced himself as Jack Sparrow and said he's under arrest. he was arrested at a drug store and went quietly moonsour has a new favorite as of 03:10 on Sep 7, 2016 |
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Here's a fun reddit thread: [Serious] People who have experienced school shootings, what was it like to come back to school after the shooting?
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 08:01 |
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I'm reading 'Captain Scott' which is written by Ranulph Fiennes at the moment. It's a bloody good read but also really sad going into it knowing the outcome. Fiennes is very defensive of Scott, and paints Amundsen as some sort of sneaky evil-doer, which, if the things he did were true, is totally right. Amundsen basically changed his plans from going to the North pole to the South to beat Scott to the 'win' in secret, and only informed Scott when they were on their way to the Antarctic. He repeatedly ignored Scott's attempts to reach out to him to see about a north/south science collaboration, and even hid from him when Scott turned up to his house in Norway. He also managed to snag all the best dogs, and prevented Scott from getting any from the best supplier also. Fiennes believes without the extra pressure from Amundsen Scott would have made it, but he was rushed into attempting it which ultimately ended in their deaths. it's a fascinating read. And quite brutal too. I learned last night how to Pith a penguin.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 08:11 |
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I'm pretty skeptical of Fiennes claims in that one, he's very much writing in defense of Scott, and to be honest, Scott was an amateur who got Peter-principled like a mofo. He showed bad organization, worse leadership, a sad lack of foresight, and duplicity/arrogance regarding his "right" to the South Pole. As soon as he heard Amundsen gave no fucks about his claims and was on his way, dude knew he was done for, and immediately started saying "this is not a race, seriously, please." Amundsen was a fucker on a lot of levels, but Scott was way, way out of his element. Fiennes has basically been pulling a proto-Bear Grylls for decades now, and should be taken with a whole bunch of salt. Source: Polar history nerd, wilderness guide in Arctic conditions. Also would like to plug the polar literature thread in the Book Barn, please keep us company there.
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Free Market Mambo posted:I'm pretty skeptical of Fiennes claims in that one, he's very much writing in defense of Scott, and to be honest, Scott was an amateur who got Peter-principled like a mofo. Oh yeah, I'm reading the whole thing with an open mind, Fiennes's character comes through a lot in the book and you can tell he 'sides' with Scott a great deal. I am enjoying it immensely though, having said that. It was arrogant as gently caress to assume he had the 'right' to the Pole, yep. It was typical British hubris, much like the Franklin expedition where they set off in a massive iron steamer and once that foundered, dragged all their unnecessary stuff in boats ultimately, to their deaths. I liked the little nugget about how the ship's cat ('friend of the family') had a wee hammock knitted for him in which he would lounge around in and be fed scraps, and when he once fell overboard all hands on deck went to save him, while the dogs were basically tools for hauling and eating when they got too knackered to be useful. Cats. They're smart. Rondette has a new favorite as of 10:03 on Sep 7, 2016 |
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There's a book written from the perspective of Shackleton's ship cat, Mrs. Chippy, that I've been trying to find a copy of. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mrs._Chippy I'm a cat guy, so I find myself (illogically) disagreeing with Shackleton's decision to have Mrs. Chippy euthanized. A cat doesn't really eat all that much.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 10:39 |
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That reminds me a bit of Trim, Matthew Flinders' cat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trim_(cat) quote:Trim was born in 1799, aboard the ship HMS Reliance on a voyage from the Cape of Good Hope to Botany Bay. The kitten fell overboard, but managed to swim back to the vessel and climb aboard by scaling a rope; taking note of his strong survival instinct and intelligence, Flinders and the crew made him their favourite.
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Free Market Mambo posted:I'm a cat guy, so I find myself (illogically) disagreeing with Shackleton's decision to have Mrs. Chippy euthanized. A cat doesn't really eat all that much.
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Rondette posted:It was typical British hubris 100% so. Scott was an incompetent nincompoop who stiff-upper-lipped himself and a few buddies into an early grave. He barely marked his way, for God's sake. More time to prepare wouldn't have helped him at all, if he was going to be as So Very British about the expedition as he was. Does the author even try to justify his refusal to bring dogs after being advised to do so by Nansen, or why he didn't bring actual warm clothes? I don't imagine he was in too much of a hurry to do either. Also if you're buying/loaning books about the topic, there's also "Race for the South Pole: The Expedition Diaries of Scott and Amundsen", which has exactly what it says on the cover. I don't own a copy and can't find the relevant passage online, but I recall there's some nice contrast where Scott is going all woe to me, all is lost in this frozen hell while Amundsen's going nice day for a bit of ski, eh on the same day not far from him. I did find some excerpts for their respective arrivals on the pole, though. The tone is pretty telling, even if they're a month apart: Amundsen, Dec. 14th posted:The weather was of the best kind when we set off this morning, but at 10am, it clouded over and hid the sun. Fresh breeze from the SE. The skiing has been partly good, partly bad. The plain - King H VII’s Vidda - has had the same appearance - quite falt and without what one might call sastrugi. The sun reappeared in the afternoon, and now we much go out and take a midnight observation. Naturally we are not exactly at the point called 90°, but after all our excellent observations and dead reckoning we must be very close. Scott, Jan. 17th posted:To-night little Bowers is laying himself out to get sights in terrible difficult circumstances; the wind is blowing hard, T. -21°, and there is that curious damp, cold feeling in the air which chills one to the bone in no time. We have been descending again, I think, but there looks to be a rise ahead; otherwise there is very little that is different from the awful monotony of past days. Great God! this is an awful place and terrible enough for us to have laboured to it without the reward of priority.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 16:51 |
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That's actually pretty sweet.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 17:22 |
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Free Market Mambo posted:There's a book written from the perspective of Shackleton's ship cat, Mrs. Chippy, that I've been trying to find a copy of. Yeah Mrs.Chippy really upset me I'm sure I drew a little tribute picture to her but I can't remember where it is or what I've done with it. This artist was inspired by Mrs.Chippy's plight too. quote:Wolf Howard was one of the 13 original founder members of the Stuckists, a pro-figurative painting, anti-conceptual art group, co-founded by Childish and Charles Thomson in 1999. Howard exhibited in group shows, including The Stuckists Punk Victorian (2004) at the Walker Art Gallery for the Liverpool Biennial and Go West at Spectrum London (2006). He left the group in 2006 to pursue a solo career. ETA- Here is a page chock full of explorer cats! Some of the stories are a bit http://www.purr-n-fur.org.uk/famous/antarctic.html If you are after a book written from a cat's perspective, The Life and Opinions of Tomcat Murr, which is way funnier than you'd expect a book written by a 19th century German dude to be. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Life_and_Opinions_of_the_Tomcat_Murr quote:"Tomcat Murr is a loveable, self-taught animal who has written his own autobiography. But a printer's error causes his story to be accidentally mixed and spliced with a book about the composer Johannes Kreisler. As the two versions break off and alternate at dramatic moments, two wildly different characters emerge from the confusion - Murr, the confident scholar, lover, carouser and brawler, and the moody, hypochondriac genius Kreisler. In his exuberant and bizarre novel, Hoffmann brilliantly evokes the fantastic, the ridiculous and the sublime within the humdrum bustle of daily life, making The Life and Opinions of the Tomcat Murr (1820–22) one of the funniest and strangest novels of the nineteenth century." Rondette has a new favorite as of 06:40 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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Sarcopenia posted:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/04/jacob-wetterling-remains-of-boy-missing-for-27-years-are-found-in-minnesota As someone who's fascinated with cold cases, I always think its super neat when they find a killer after so long. It makes me hope we'll get answers for some of the other high-profile missing persons cases eventually. I always got the Gosch case confused with this one so it makes me hopeful we'll potentially hear news about that case as well.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 17:58 |
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They're digging up Cal Poly to find Kristin Smart. The guy who saw her last is being described as a "person of interest".
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Your Gay Uncle posted:FYI there's a pretty solid nonfiction book called The Terror where the stranded ships are attacked by a crazy snow monster it's actually a very bad book, for children
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 21:31 |
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Can we just not kill cats? It's so easy to do. Give it a shot, people (but not a shot from a gun, into a cat)
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 21:33 |
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news..._national_pop_b Each time, she would shove the blind, handicapped teenager away from her and say, “No, you don’t want to love me. Please let God take you.”
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 22:54 |
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Cumslut1895 posted:Here's a fun reddit thread: [Serious] People who have experienced school shootings, what was it like to come back to school after the shooting? It comes up frequently but Longform is an awesome website.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 23:03 |
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I actually didn't know that ship cats were a thing before today. I find that adorable for some reason. Not the point of the thread, but pretty cool all the same.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 23:08 |
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It all depends on whether you find the need for a ratter adorable. (I like cats. A lot. Ship's cats may have been loved and played with, but they were there for a very practical reason.)
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 00:31 |
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Alereon posted:Somewhat related, there's an article in New York Magazine called The Sandy Hook Hoax, about a father who lost his son and his fight against Internet trolls convinced he is a paid "crisis actor" whose son never existed. That article is infuriating
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 00:38 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:They're digging up Cal Poly to find Kristin Smart. The guy who saw her last is being described as a "person of interest". It seems like a dick move to publicly label people suspects before at least officially charging them.
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WickedHate posted:It seems like a dick move to publicly label people suspects before at least officially charging them.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Yup. It's standard practice, but it's a bad one. Just like bringing suspects through a herd of reporters to be charged. This behavior, and the behavior of federal/state officials who anonymously leak poo poo to the media, really warrants its own school of investigative journalism imo. Of course, questioning, analyzing, and exposing it will immediately end that person's career.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 01:22 |
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A particularly bad case of police really loving over innocent people is Operation Ore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ore quote:Between 1999 and 2001, after a tip, a US investigation was conducted into Landslide Productions Inc., a Texas-based online pornography portal operated by Thomas and Janice Reedy. The portal was found to have provided access to child pornography and the Reedys were both convicted of trafficking child pornography in August 2001. quote:In May 2002, Operation Ore was implemented in the UK to investigate and prosecute the Landslide users whose names were provided by the FBI. In the UK standard operating procedure dictates that all alleged paedophiles must be arrested quickly and thoroughly due to the high risk posed by paedophiles to children. quote:After 2003 Operation Ore came under closer scrutiny, with police forces in the UK being criticised for their handling of the operation. The most common criticism was that they failed to determine whether or not the owners of credit cards in Landslide's database actually accessed any sites containing child porn, unlike in the US where it was determined in advance whether or not credit card subscribers had purchased child porn. Investigative journalist Duncan Campbell exposed these flaws in a series of articles in 2005 and 2007.[12][13][14]
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 01:23 |
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At least that was accidental(?). That doesn't make it any less tragic, but it's loving infuriating when you have Making A Murderer-esque situations with people getting railroaded for one reason or another.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 01:27 |
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Given the UK's history of purposely overlooking and failing to prosecute pedophiles any "oh it was a mistake" excuses can get hosed.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 01:48 |
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True. I mean, how is it possible for a country to have multiple hysterical pedophilia witch hunts that put the Satanic daycare scandals to shame, and yet at the same time genuinely be full of pedophiles? I give my friend in the UK poo poo about that a lot, but it's pretty loving crazy when you think about it.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 01:52 |
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Yeah, but that dude killed that woman in Making a Murderer.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 01:54 |
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Yeah, it's like OJ Simpson: just because you were framed by incompetent and possibly racist police, doesn't mean you didn't actually do it, too.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 03:18 |
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I'd like to make two requests to find some things I read about here, if anybody remembers them. One was about a missing hiker/camper, a young man who had disappeared, and they had found one or two pictures (on his phone or uploaded somewhere, I can't remember) with an unknown man who was barely visible in one. It was just like a big picture of trees and bushes and stuff and you could make out like the side of a guy's face in the middle distance. Nothing that would be creepy without the context. Another one was a story about a murder that (I think) occurred in SW Ohio. The story was that a woman who worked at some sort of facility was locked in a tank or something and left to drown. There were only a few of her coworkers that it could have possibly been, but they were never able to figure out which one it was. If anybody remembers these please post em up.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 03:21 |
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WickedHate posted:It seems like a dick move to publicly label people suspects before at least officially charging them. How would you enlist the public's help in helping you find a guy you suspect so that you can question or arrest him if you're not allowed to say that he's a suspect?
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 03:28 |
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http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-framed/ A bizarre story of an imagined sleight spiraling into something much, much crazier.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 03:42 |
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willus posted:http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-framed/ Intensively talked about on the last couple pages.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 03:56 |
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A person of interest isn't even a suspect. It can be a witness or someone connected to a suspect.
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TotalLossBrain posted:Intensively talked about on the last couple pages. that's embarrassing and i can't believe i missed it.
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TotalLossBrain posted:Intensively talked about on the last couple pages. Oh it was?
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A Pinball Wizard posted:Oh it was? No it wasnt. It was talked about it in schrodfreude other people's pain thread. Not this one. willus posted:that's embarrassing and i can't believe i missed it. You didn't.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 05:15 |
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Human Tornada posted:
This? http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2015/02/death_in_the_water_tank_nightmarish_case_remains_u.html
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 05:19 |
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Look at this idiot here not paying attention to what thread he's in. Sorry guys.
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TotalLossBrain posted:Look at this idiot here not paying attention to what thread he's in. Sorry guys. its okay, it's not your fault that you lost your brain
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