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She can't be faking it because this is a dumb parable about free will.
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Typical Pubbie posted:She can't be faking it because this is a dumb parable about free will. Is it?
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May 4, 2018 16:41
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It doesn't work anyway because he can literally read her mind, he'd know that immediately  Ah well
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May 4, 2018 16:46
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Typical Pubbie posted:She can't be faking it because this is a dumb parable about free will. Ah, the old clockwork orange conundrum. Only with more violence.
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May 4, 2018 16:53
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Paladinus posted:Ah, the old clockwork orange conundrum. Only with more violence.
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May 4, 2018 19:02
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Thick, creamy ropes of tears.
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May 4, 2018 19:15
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i'm havin a hard time accepting the author isn't making this up on the fly but i know this was all planned. and that's rough.
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May 4, 2018 19:56
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The Lord of Hats posted:Why does Patrick have such a hangup on the fact that his dad is dead when he's the one that killed him. I presume he wanted absolute proof that his mother was so dead inside that she'd kill him without thinking to save her own skin, and didn't really think about it beyond that because people don't really have good mental models for What To Do After You've Murdered Half Of The People Who Know You.
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May 4, 2018 20:08
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But he was able to do a DEEP SCAN of her mind on the following page and saw that it was full of tetris blocks which means psycopath. Handing his mother a knife was like lighting a match to check if there's a gas leak. Typical Pubbie fucked around with this message at 20:31 on May 4, 2018 |
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May 4, 2018 20:27
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i can't believe my father is dead after i forced my mom to stab him at gunpoint
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May 4, 2018 22:12
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The Lord of Hats posted:Why does Patrick have such a hangup on the fact that his dad is dead when he's the one that killed him. 
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May 5, 2018 02:52
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My superior puppeteer brain lets me recall that Patrick's motive here is that he was, perhaps due to their genetic connection, unusually sensitive to the thoughts of his parents. He was going to kill them or at least make them not think loathful thoughts about him, which I guess he picked up far more clearly than that of, say, Jimmy the Uber driver. Loss of a parent would also be very difficult and it's honestly rather realistic - in the general sense - that he'd be dismayed at his father's death, especially since, you know, he did it. (The specific execution is dumb as gently caress, naturally.)
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May 5, 2018 08:19
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May 5, 2018 13:25
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Nessus posted:it's honestly rather realistic - in the general sense - that he'd be dismayed at his father's death
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May 6, 2018 01:24
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Wait-wait-wait. Then how come the mother is not sad about her husband dying? Isn't that a bit unrealistic? I'm lost.
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May 6, 2018 02:09
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Paladinus posted:Wait-wait-wait. Then how come the mother is not sad about her husband dying? Isn't that a bit unrealistic? I'm lost. if Patrick didn't completely rewrite her psyche, it's because she's still a sociopath. if Patrick did completely rewrite her psyche, it's because he's incompetent.
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May 6, 2018 03:10
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Well if we take that at face value it's the first time he's used his powers in this way, so I don't think competence can be really expected, but you're almost certainly putting more thought into it than the author is.
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May 6, 2018 04:12
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wait was that a serious question the mom is clearly supposed to be a hollowed-out parody of June Cleaver who can't be sad about something horrific she and patrick did because that kind of situation doesn't fit his ridiculous monkeys paw wish for her to be a Perfect Mom A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 06:27 on May 6, 2018 |
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May 6, 2018 06:23
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is patrick going to change clevin next
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May 6, 2018 10:15
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i'm on the edge of my seat
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May 6, 2018 10:15
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:wait was that a serious question It was not a serious question.
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May 6, 2018 10:41
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what if he changed the mom's preferred pronouns what then
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May 6, 2018 11:11
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i need to hear mulligan's opinion on pronouns
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May 6, 2018 11:12
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and also on circumcision, if you're reading this please do an arc on circumcision next, i really need to see it discussed in the context of superpowers and mutant animal people
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May 6, 2018 11:13
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mulligan isn't keeping up with the times if the next storyline isn't alison becoming a youtube starlet, and being sexually harassed by a man who has uploaded his entire brain onto his supercomputer and transformed into a malevolent bot army. there can be a circumcision subplot, i'll leave that entirely up to him
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May 6, 2018 11:46
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I hate to say this, but circumcision seems like exactly the kind of hole this comic would throw itself down.
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May 6, 2018 14:57
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we want to know if clevin is circumcised, or if the question doesn't make sense
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May 6, 2018 15:53
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It's all pasta down there.
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May 6, 2018 17:19
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skidaddle skidoodle it always was a noodle
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May 6, 2018 17:48
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Nessus posted:My superior puppeteer brain lets me recall that Patrick's motive here is that he was, perhaps due to their genetic connection, unusually sensitive to the thoughts of his parents. He was going to kill them or at least make them not think loathful thoughts about him, which I guess he picked up far more clearly than that of, say, Jimmy the Uber driver. at the start of the arc we were all under the impression patrick couldn't brainwash people but that's apparently been untrue this whole time, and more importantly, it seems like patrick knew he could do that at this point in the flashback. so why didn't he just do mind stuff to his parents while they slept and skip all the murder and trauma?
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May 6, 2018 19:59
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Axe-man posted:It's all pasta down there. just a mezze rigatoni
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May 6, 2018 20:01
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what if clevin has been the silent hill/xenogears wiki man all along
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May 6, 2018 21:20
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Clevin will give the world a spaghetti breakfast.
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May 6, 2018 23:15
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The Worst Unicorn posted:at the start of the arc we were all under the impression patrick couldn't brainwash people Nobody in this comic could possibly be mistaken for a person, so this is still true.
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May 6, 2018 23:20
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The Worst Unicorn posted:at the start of the arc we were all under the impression patrick couldn't brainwash people but that's apparently been untrue this whole time, and more importantly, it seems like patrick knew he could do that at this point in the flashback. so why didn't he just do mind stuff to his parents while they slept and skip all the murder and trauma? You can make the point that killing a person and basically rewiring their brain is the same thing in that it removes the person as they were from existence, and that Patrick seems to think so since he basically treats it as equivalent crimes. There's also the thing where asking "why didn't character do X" where X is the most logical thing to do is a bit silly, because characters act in ways dependent on their emotional states and personal beliefs and all that fun stuff rather than pure reason. So it's fine if a character's dumb idiot actions are coherent with their thoughts and feelings, the problem is just Patrick's aren't. As it is, Patrick's problem is that his parents hate him and he wants them to stop, and he has two entirely separate last resorts to deal with that problem. If what he's after is the relative peace of mind of not having to deal with their thoughts, murder makes sense as a solution (somewhat, anyway, if you ignore he has a massive criminal empire and could just put his parents in house arrest in Australia). If instead what he really wants his parents's love and approval, it makes sense he would go with mind-wiping when all else fails. Except Patrick just kinda wants both? And then does both? Really, Patrick's dad only existed as a prob to demonstrate that Patrick's psychopath mom is, in fact, a psychopath, after we were already shown she stranges dogs to death with her powerful hands and has no qualms murdering children. Mulligan wanted to write a story about Patrick longing to be loved by a person incapable of feeling love, and having a normal dad was an obstacle in the story he just got rid off in the clumsiest way instead of just making psycho mom a single mother or something. Sad dad's presence is completely pointless and that's why we can't help but ask "but why didn't he do X".
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this broken hill posted:mulligan isn't keeping up with the times if the next storyline isn't alison becoming a youtube starlet, and being sexually harassed by a man who has uploaded his entire brain onto his supercomputer and transformed into a malevolent bot army. there can be a circumcision subplot, i'll leave that entirely up to him
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May 7, 2018 19:28
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if only we could go back in time and add the mom killing the dog to strangle.avi
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May 7, 2018 22:09
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Leaning heavily on unreliable narration to pull off a surprise "everything you were told up until now was a lie" twist is one of the biggest crutches terrible writers seem to rely on.
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Ayuh
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Why didn't he just rewrite BOTH of them to love him and then call it a day 
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