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Favre is also in the middle of a major welfare scandal. To super online people like us Rodgers pulling his recent nutty stuff stands out more but will probably be much easier to sweep under the rug in the long term compared to that.
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Rodgers is just like normal weirdo white QB conservative dickhead. Farve is literally stealing money from poor people to get a loving vollleyball facility for his daughter.
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Favre has that stupid “iron man” consecutive starts record which will never go away. Also, he went to one more Super Bowl than Rodgers, even if they both only have one ring. Favre also has the most INTs record, while Rodgers has the best INT:TD ratio over some thousands of throws. We’ll see if he ruins that with another season of football though. My gut feeling - Favre goes down in NFL history as a Paul Bunyan figure while Rodgers is an, “oh yeah, that other guy who played for the Packers and was really good… but let’s talk more about BrEtT fArrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!” Definitely first ballot Hall of Famer though.
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Brett gets credit for bringing the Packers back to relevance after being bad for so long. Unfairly or not, Rodgers will always be QB 2b because of that. There are elements of Farve's story that are straight up mythic, from being drafted as an afterthought by coach who said Favre would never play QB as long as he (the coach) was in the league to the game he had after his father died. Rodgers may be technically better but that's the point. Methodical perfection is less open to myth making than passionate play. What's funny is that after Starr, Farve and Rodgers deciding who was the fourth best Packers QB is a game of what about that guy?
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Pops Mgee posted:Rodgers has 1 and a half more mvps than Favre and a Superbowl mvp. You could make the argument that he’s number 2. favre played to win, rodgers plays to pad his rate stats. at least favre made a second super bowl favre as paul bunyan is a great comparison
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since 2012 here's two qbs to choose from qb a: 142 games, 4866 attempts, 66.8% completion, 7.6 y/a, 7.7 ay/a 261 ypg, 97.8 rating qb b: 161 games, 5547 attempts, 65.3% completion, 7.5 y/a, 8.2 ay/a, 258.9 ypg, 103.4 rating so yeah, basically just a slightly better kirk cousins, and despite GB's wr issues lately cousins dealt with worse in washington
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Darth Brooks posted:What's funny is that after Starr, Farve and Rodgers deciding who was the fourth best Packers QB is a game of what about that guy? Lynn Dickey? (I’m way too young to have seen Lynn Dickey play.)
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How is Arnie Herber not automatically green bays 4th best quarterback?
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Blake Bortles.
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Trying to imagine the concept of the bears' 4th best quarterback.
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PneumonicBook posted:How is Arnie Herber not automatically green bays 4th best quarterback? I don’t know who that is, sorry.
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Of course not, he played in the 40s, threw to Don Hutson, and led green bay to 4 championships.
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Talk about a who's who of "how the hell is he still in the league?" https://twitter.com/maxgerbs/status/1614022390153109506 Glad Agnew is still doing stuff, he was always fun to watch.
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R.D. Mangles posted:Trying to imagine the concept of the bears' 4th best quarterback. Bears top 4 QB’s: Sid Luckman Jay Cutler Rex Grossman Jim McMahon Choose your own rank order, I sure don’t know.
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R.D. Mangles posted:Trying to imagine the concept of the bears' 4th best quarterback. I mean, after Luckman and Cutler, you're probably looking at ... Jim McMahon and Rex Grossman? Kyle Orton?
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R.D. Mangles posted:I think we can all agree that whatever strategy the bears use in the draft will blow up in their face because they are the bears. I mean, yeah. It kinda goes without saying. They'll get a huge haul and then use it to draft a special teams jammer, a fullback from Rutgers and a highly touted edge rusher whose legs suffer from Greg Oden-itis.
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They'll draft the shittiest cornerback in a draft filled with great cornerbacks. Basically their strategy for wide receiver in last year's draft.
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This NFCN thread needs more discussion about the team that is actually still playing. https://twitter.com/GovTimWalz/status/1613928906632974336
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Rod Hoofhearted posted:Bears top 4 QB’s:
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SirPablo posted:This NFCN thread needs more discussion about the team that is actually still playing. 
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R.D. Mangles posted:Stroud knows he could never survive the scrutiny of briefly trailing against Northwestern in a game with 60 mph gale force winds and downpours. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX-k66VrmQo
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Dexo posted:Kramer is better than both of them lol Didn't Kramer get beat out for the starting job by loving Dave Krieg and then Rick Mirer?
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Timby posted:Didn't Kramer get beat out for the starting job by loving Dave Krieg and then Rick Mirer? Kramer was just always hurt. And when he wasn't hurt they kept trying and failing to find someone better lol They traded a first for Rick loving Mirer so they had to try him, and then he played like 4 games before they got him up out the paint I'm pretty sure Kramer has the best Bears passing season ever.
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Wonder if Goff is a top four Lions QB. People with clearer memories of Scott Mitchell weigh in. I guess Greg Landry is third.
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Dexo posted:I'm pretty sure Kramer has the best Bears passing season ever. Almost positive that's Cutler.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Wonder if Goff is a top four Lions QB. People with clearer memories of Scott Mitchell weigh in. I guess Greg Landry is third. 1 attempt 1 completion 75 yards 1 touchdown 158.3 rating The best quarterback in Lions history is Tom Kennedy.
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The lack of Rodney Peete in this discussion is crazy. His Tecmo-Bowl stats were amazing.
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Timby posted:Almost positive that's Cutler. 
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Henchman of Santa posted:Wonder if Goff is a top four Lions QB. People with clearer memories of Scott Mitchell weigh in. I guess Greg Landry is third. I think he honestly might make an argument for Top 4 post-merger. In my lifetime the Top 4 pre-Goff were probably 1. Stafford (no poo poo...) 2. Erik Kramer 3. Jon Kitna 4. Charlie Batch I think Goff makes that list easily.
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HootTheOwl posted:Orton> Grossman not even close Rex Grossman is more appreciated for the Sexy Rexy/Unleash the Dragon stuff than anything that happened on a football field.
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