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harperdc: Jul 24, 2007

drunkill posted:

Majak Daw jumped off the bolte bridge last night. Pulled from the water alive around 11pm but has a broken hip.

Jesus Christ, that�s frightening.

# ? Dec 18, 2018 00:40

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snaeksikn: Feb 28, 2010

I don't want to sound like an rear end in a top hat but I feel like Daw could have jumped in front of a tram and the tram would have come off second best

# ? Dec 18, 2018 01:23

drunkill: Sep 25, 2007; me @ ur posting; Fallen Rib

That didn't work out for Graham Polak, he couldn't stop a tram...

# ? Dec 18, 2018 02:28

Paracausal: Sep 5, 2011; Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.

Big oof for big Maj.
Think that there is no legal reason why anyone can't name him, sure it'd be the nice thing to do but 3aw and the scum... welp

# ? Dec 18, 2018 02:31

BrigadierSensible: Feb 16, 2012; I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Yeah. Whilst it is an arsehole, and extremely classless move to name him. I think that considering he is not the victim of a crime, then they are legally allowed to do so.

Doesn't mean they should though.

Good luck to Majak, and may he find the help he needs.

# ? Dec 18, 2018 02:34

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

No I get that there�s not a legal restriction, but even considering the gutter press we are dealing with I was hoping for some level of sensitivity and discretion when dealing with a potential suicide attempt. More fool me I guess

# ? Dec 18, 2018 02:43

NTRabbit: Aug 15, 2012; i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches

There's no legal restriction, but there are very specific APC guidelines for the reporting around suicides devised in conjunction with Mindframe

Of course since it's a famous person they've decided it's in the public interest, and it was totally an accident anyway print print print

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Dec 18, 2018

# ? Dec 18, 2018 06:20

Windmill Hut: Jul 21, 2008

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-12-19/vfl-curtainraisers-set-to-return-to-mcg-in-2019

quote:

MULTIPLE VFL curtain-raisers will return to the home of football in 2019.

An agreement, in principle, struck on Monday between the Melbourne Cricket Club (MCC) and AFL sees four VFL fixtures set for the MCG prior to AFL matches next year.

In a boost for fans, it will also result in the AFL reducing the time between the end of a curtain-raiser and the start of an AFL matches from around 60 minutes to a minimum of 35-45 minute

This is not only a boost for fans, but also a boost for the players, particularly new draftees.

Casey Fields is often incredibly windy and wet. If players get more of a chance on the MCG or Etihad where it's less windy/dry, and also where they'd actually be playing in the seniors, surely it'd aid their development?

I'm unlikely to ever rock up early to watch the game but it'll be cool to watch 6 hours straight of footy on Sunday afternoon.

# ? Dec 19, 2018 03:15

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Windmill Hut posted:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-12-19/vfl-curtainraisers-set-to-return-to-mcg-in-2019

This is not only a boost for fans, but also a boost for the players, particularly new draftees.

Casey Fields is often incredibly windy and wet. If players get more of a chance on the MCG or Etihad where it's less windy/dry, and also where they'd actually be playing in the seniors, surely it'd aid their development?

I'm unlikely to ever rock up early to watch the game but it'll be cool to watch 6 hours straight of footy on Sunday afternoon.

Would gently caress up Casey�s finals chances, Casey fields being such a godawful ground gave them probably the biggest home ground advantage in the league

# ? Dec 19, 2018 03:28

drunkill: Sep 25, 2007; me @ ur posting; Fallen Rib

Powermove from the Suns president, CCing all the other league presidents (and Gil) into his email.
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From: Tony Cochrane

Sent: Monday, 19 November 2018, 2.40pm

To: Jeff Kennett

Cc: Andrew Bassat; Andrew Pridham; Andrew Wellington; Ben Buckley; Colin Carter; Dale Alcock; David Koch; Eddie McGuire; Glen Bartlett; Lindsay Tanner; Mark LoGiudice; Peggy O�Neal; Peter Gordon; Rob Chapman; Russell Gibbs; Tony Shepherd; Gillon McLachlan; Richard Goyder; Bob East; Paul Scurrah; Sam Riley; Alan Mackenzie; Leschen Smaller; Simon Bennett; Martin Rowland; Mark Evans

Subject: Your Sun Herald Article

Dear Jeff,

If you are quoted correctly in the Herald Sun article below then you owe my entire Board at the GCFC a massive public apology?

I�m not sure what you think bestows on you the right to pass judgement or otherwise on other AFL Clubs other than the �family Club� you represent? (whom by the way took circa 40 years to play finals). This is hardly your first time, with both St. Kilda and Port Adelaide having received, in the recent past, your vitriol. Having cheap pot shots at other members of the greater AFL �family� brings both yourself and your Club into disrespect.

Perhaps from the very safe distance of Melbourne you might not consider our Board Members as being worthy of their challenge/roles � based on your comments that is clearly what you believe!

But allow me to grant you an insight. All my Board Members work hard and diligently to build an AFL franchise in a young, and demanding market within a brand new AFL region. They put in massive hours and all offer valuable time and effort associated with advancing the cause of our great indigenous game in Queensland, like you and all Club Chairs & Directors freely giving of their time. Further, if you had of undertaken some basic research you would have discovered whilst our on field performance is far from where we wish to be, behind the scenes we have established a superb beachhead for our game on the Gold Coast. Allow me to enlighten you with but two examples from the many I could present.

� We now control a world class sporting facility dedicated around AFL with our build of the Carrara site (Metricon Stadium). From a standing start ten years ago approx.. $500M has been spent bringing this site to an exceptional high AFL standard. Other than a contribution to the facility across that time of $10M from the AFL we have raised all the funds from Federal, State and Local Council � I would say that gives our Board Members (past and present) a reasonable nod to capacity?

� Right now AFL is booming as a sport of choice for young boys and girls on the Gold Coast (and in Queensland generally, not only thanks to our hard work but that of the Lions and AFLQ). Record growth in our game at the grass roots level is something that the AFL and the AFL Commission are very rightly proud of � their support has been fantastic! In fact despite building now four new ovals in our immediate region we have a major capacity issue throughout the winter. Like any broad church it takes real time to build from scratch if you wish to sustain it; as a former non AFL region, what has been achieved at the grass roots level is outstanding! Again not all the work of our Board, but they sure have put the time and effort into the Community to be a significant contributor in all of this growth. Additionally of course they understand for real long term success we need a broad base to build our foundation on, so this work is critical. My Board and our senior management team have been exemplary in this area.

Finally before putting your mouth into overdrive next, perhaps try neutral first and remember that these GC Suns Board Members are, like the Board Members at Hawthorn, doing their upmost. Instead of cheap personal shots you actually might like to applaud them for the hundreds of hours they commit to grow the game of AFL in Queensland. The A of course standing for Australia, of which the last time I looked Queensland was very much a part of? (even on maps in Victoria).

Yours etc,

Tony Cochrane

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Then in jumped Peter Gordon, and Colon Carter
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From: Peter Gordon

Sent: Monday, 19 November 2018, 3.43pm

To: Tony Cochrane; Jeff Kennett

Cc: Andrew Bassat; Andrew Pridham; Andrew Wellington; Ben Buckley; Colin Carter; Dale Alcock; David Koch; Eddie McGuire; Glen Bartlett; Lindsay Tanner; Mark LoGiudice; Peggy O�Neal; Rob Chapman; Russell Gibbs; Tony Shepherd; Gillon McLachlan; Richard Goyder; Bob East; Paul Scurrah; Sam Riley; Alan Mackenzie; Leschen Smaller; Simon Bennett; Martin Rowland; Mark Evans

Tony,

Thanks for copying me in to this email.

I hope you know that the vast majority of the AFL industry appreciate the work you do, the commitment of your (and all of our) volunteer boards and the challenges of growing a club like GCS in Queensland.

Twenty years ago, the same kind of �I know better� attitude your email calls out, was pushing for half the clubs in Victoria to be eradicated. It�s a lot harder stepping into the role of President of a new club or a smaller club, than one that was spending its excess cash putting gold taps in the washrooms as far back as the 1980s.

You can�t grow the AFL in a crucible of economic rationalism. No-one ever could. It takes hard work and the collegiate spirit of 18 clubs working together. You guys have the total support of the Western Bulldogs.

All the best,

Peter

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From: Carter, Colin

Date: Monday, 19 Nov 2018, 5.23pm

To: Peter Gordon; Tony Cochrane; Jeff Kennett

Cc: Andrew Bassat; Andrew Pridham; Andrew Wellington; Ben Buckley; Dale Alcock; David Koch; Eddie McGuire; Glen Bartlett; Lindsay Tanner; Mark LoGiudice; Peggy O�Neal; Rob Chapman; Russell Gibbs; Tony Shepherd; Gillon McLachlan; Richard Goyder; Bob East; Paul Scurrah; Sam Riley; Alan Mackenzie; Leschen Smaller; Simon Bennett; Martin Rowland; Mark Evans

Dear Tony

I also assure you that your club has Geelong�s support. We appreciate the huge task involved in setting up a new club in non-traditional areas as well as the strategic importance that sits behind the expansion.

I point out too that our club supported the establishment of the Suns and Giants when they were established and that we were not recipients of AFL aid at the time. I was also at that meeting and it is unfair to suggest that clubs only support the AFL because they are �victimised� by the AFL if they don�t.

Richard Colless may have questioned the timing but the introduction of the second club in Perth, Adelaide and Sydney was, in each case, opposed by the first established club in that state. That didn�t make them correct!

It was pointed out at that meeting that we would look pretty poor as custodians of our game if, in 25 years� time, we finished up with a national competition consisting of 14 of 16 teams below the Murray and with more than half of Australia�s population above it. Taking a long term view, the two new teams in NSW and Qld are the right way to go.

The dollar numbers thrown around by critics of the northern expansion are also really misleading because they usually include the AFL distributions that every club receives. As I understand it, the extra amounts given to the new clubs over the amounts provided to our existing clubs is a number that would be largely covered by the increase in the TV contract because of the ninth game.

Finally, all of this is a bit rich coming from Hawthorn! Hawthorn applied to join the VFL a number of times before the club was finally accepted in 1925. Hawthorn then won only 29 games in its first ten years in the VFL � an average of less than 3 wins per season over ten years. But we are all pleased that Hawthorn survived its formation years. Success takes time. We should be playing the long game and not the short game.

Tony, you and your board, management and football colleagues have our full support

Regards to all

Colin

# ? Dec 22, 2018 12:33

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Tony Cochran is bad at writing imo

# ? Dec 22, 2018 12:39

racing identity: Apr 5, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

He's doing his upmost

# ? Dec 22, 2018 13:26

Chairchucker: Nov 14, 2006; to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

I didn't read the whole thing and bits of it looked bad, but on the other hand I'm on his side if the other side contains Jeff Kennett.

# ? Dec 22, 2018 14:03

Periphery: Jul 27, 2003; ...

What did dickhead Jeff say to kick all that off?

Also, Carlton is having a real poo poo preseason for injuries: on-top of Docherty redoing his ACL, Pickett ruptured his patella tendon the other day and Mitch McGovern has a minor fracture in his back.

# ? Dec 22, 2018 15:21

cmndstab: May 20, 2006; Huge Internet Celebrity!

Yes, there's something about finishing a non-question with a question mark that makes me twitch, but I can't fault Tony's endeavour here. Good on WB and Geelong's guys for backing him up.

# ? Dec 22, 2018 16:34

harperdc: Jul 24, 2007

Solemn Sloth posted:

Tony Cochran is bad at writing imo

just sounds like an email from a higher up in a big company when they have enough time to reply more than just a "Yes" or "No".

also pretty funny if the liveliest thing happening in the AFL right now involves a Replay All-pocalypse.

# ? Dec 23, 2018 10:11

Spedman: Mar 12, 2010; Kangaroos hate Hasselblads

My wife works at Telstra and had a doozy of a Reply-All fest on Friday, a senior manager sent a heart felt Xmas message saying the break wasn�t just about Xmas but reflecting on people who don�t get to spend Xmas with, or being thankful,etc etc. This went out to possibly over 1000 staff members, where a good half a dozen boomer types mashed reply-all with emails going on about �lefty-bullshit�, and �Xmas is only about Xmas�, and �traditional values.�

Anyway that�s my Xmas story, hope everyone enjoys a Bundaberg beverage or two this Xmas.

# ? Dec 23, 2018 12:15