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Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


That's a pretty good drop.

Absolutely hate that dungeon though.

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NeurosisHead
Jul 22, 2007

NONONONONONONONONO
How are you guys finding groups? Using the group finder for PUGs, LFG spam in zone, other guilds?

Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

NeurosisHead posted:

How are you guys finding groups? Using the group finder for PUGs, LFG spam in zone, other guilds?

Honestly it depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking for pledge groups, best place is to go to your faction's capital city and just broadcast yourself. Healers and Tanks get a lot more priority because there's a shortage of them compared to DPS, which is unfortunately a dime a dozen, and not in the good way. Even if you do find a group, it tends to be hit or miss regarding how well you can complete the dungeons.

Berke Negri posted:

That's a pretty good drop.

Absolutely hate that dungeon though.
Yeah, it's great for tanks, so maybe if I get a DK tank to V12/14 I can make use of it.

I had a really good group this time around, we only wiped twice at Bogdan because we got hit with the fire AoEs at exactly the same time Bogdan did the area-wide jump attack.

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
I'll be around a bit more for a week or so to invite people to the dagger fall guild.

Anyone in the guild can invite to the guild.

Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

Pass lead to someone like Savinder or B1kk1es

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Scyantific posted:

Pass lead to someone like Savinder or B1kk1es

will do when I get lead

I don't have lead

Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

Welp. That's what I get for not checking the guild info :downs:

Krakatoah
Jul 8, 2009

Super High-School Level Bean-dog

Atrayonis posted:

Ebonheart Pact mostly and unless you are going for group dungeons or pvp excursions which inherently need coordination with people who are maybe already asleep there's nothing time-limited.

Alright I'll keep that in mind, I am a little worried that I might end up getting shafted later on due to some silly Race/Class combination bias but does that really matter later on or would I be fine using something less optimal?

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


Krakatoah posted:

Alright I'll keep that in mind, I am a little worried that I might end up getting shafted later on due to some silly Race/Class combination bias but does that really matter later on or would I be fine using something less optimal?

No one really cares about race/class combinations. Maybe people really anal about speed-running Trials but that's an incredibly small fraction of the game population.

Sky Shadowing
Feb 13, 2012

At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)
It's probably enough of a bonus for serious spergs to go 'YOU'RE A MORON NOW FIX YOUR BUILD :ARGH', but I'm pretty sure I have a very non-optimal build and I have fun with the game.

Bob NewSCART
Feb 1, 2012

Outstanding afternoon. "I've often said there's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a horse."

So are there any good guides for how to be a useful tank in this game? I'm leveling up a DK and I would like to actually be able to get into groups

Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

Bob NewSCART posted:

So are there any good guides for how to be a useful tank in this game? I'm leveling up a DK and I would like to actually be able to get into groups

Stamina enchants on armor, Hist Bark armor set, Stamina Regen enchants on jewelry, never stop blocking. Also be prepared to take the blame for half the wipes because "TANK DIDN'T AGGRO BOSS HOLY poo poo"

Also be prepared to farm Veteran Spindleclutch endlessly until you can get the Blood Spawn item set.

eSporks
Jun 10, 2011

So I figured out whats going on with the Shadow Mundus stone and why it sucks.
Basically ZoS is dumb and the Shadow gives you the same value +CRIT damage as the warrior gives you +DAMAGE. So the warrior gives you the same bonus all the time, not just when you crit, and then when you do crit, that bonus is getting an additional +50% from in innate crit bonus.

So if a normal attack does 1000 damage. Warrior will buff that to to 1016, then if you crit, it gets +50% so your crit will do 1524.

With the Shadow, your normal attack will still do 1000. If you crit, it gets +51.6%, so your crit will do 1516. Even if you had 100% crit chance, Shadow would be worse than warrior.

They did the same thing with the Champion system and the passives in the ritual. Why on earth would you take a +1% crit damage bonus when you could take a +1% flat damage bonus instead.

GuyUpNorth
Apr 29, 2014

Witty phrases on random basis
Because I'm a scrub who wants to see things gibbed in one fell blow, and I already made meself 5-piece set of Hunding. But I'm kinda considering just reset on those since I can't rush some thief passives, would be collateral.

Krakatoah
Jul 8, 2009

Super High-School Level Bean-dog

Scyantific posted:

Stamina enchants on armor, Hist Bark armor set, Stamina Regen enchants on jewelry, never stop blocking. Also be prepared to take the blame for half the wipes because "TANK DIDN'T AGGRO BOSS HOLY poo poo"

Also be prepared to farm Veteran Spindleclutch endlessly until you can get the Blood Spawn item set.

That makes it sound like tanking is more of a chore than in other games and I'd thought people would actually dodge boss mechanics since this game's a bit more freeform from the holy trinity, that said at least I wouldn't be stuck doing that if I play a Nord Dragon Knight.

Pookerbacca
Jan 18, 2012

Love United
Been back in the game for a few weeks now and am hooked again. Always been a slow leveler in any MMO coz I get sucked into crafting. The Justice system is a boon to fund my crafter levelling, which I've got to the mid 40s, while my toon is only at level 27. Enchanting is still a slow grind though, sheesh.

If anyone needs a specific trait in Blacksmithing or Woodworker trait, shoot me an email @Pookerbacca and I will be happy to see if I can make you that item.

If anyone can craft a Heavy chest piece with Infused, I would be grateful, it is the final piece I need in that line!

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


Hand of Almalexia outfit coming to the crown store apparently. :getin:

Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

Krakatoah posted:

That makes it sound like tanking is more of a chore than in other games and I'd thought people would actually dodge boss mechanics since this game's a bit more freeform from the holy trinity, that said at least I wouldn't be stuck doing that if I play a Nord Dragon Knight.

Well this only really applies to bosses. When running between bosses your job is pretty much to rush in and be the CC specialist, rooting enemies, interrupting casters, and drawin attention away from your healers and damage dealers.

The Trinity is still present, but it's not as prevalent as other MMOs. For instance, the second boss in Veteran Spindleclutch is a straight up DPS race, which means EVERYONE has to off-class to DPS.

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


Started doing the Aldmeri Dominion quests today, felt that running around in Ordinator armor looked a little bit conspicuous. Decided I needed to blend in better.



Hopefully the fake cat ears will pass everything but the closest of inspections.

Nulity
Sep 26, 2010
I came back to play this game for the welcome back free weekend, and im shocked and horrified to find I'm actually enjoying this now.

Please add me to Daggerfall Goons: Grabbag gro-Upp@Nulity

Sirielia
Jan 5, 2005
Shin <3 <3
Can I get an invite to Daggerfall Goons? @Sirielia Thanks!

Sallius
Apr 1, 2011
Can I get a Daggerfall Goons invite as well? @Sallius

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
I'll get you guys in a while after I finish my fractured space games.

Bob NewSCART
Feb 1, 2012

Outstanding afternoon. "I've often said there's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a horse."

What's a good mundus stone that actually works?

Also when's that hand of almalexia outfit dropping? I want that.. Badly

Spuds MacKenzie
Jul 29, 2006
Mustachio Faced Man
I'd like an invite to the Daggerfall goon guild. I'm @Gogumacat. I'd also join the other faction goon guilds just for fun if you're inviting also.

eSporks
Jun 10, 2011

eSporks posted:

So I figured out whats going on with the Shadow Mundus stone and why it sucks.
Basically ZoS is dumb and the Shadow gives you the same value +CRIT damage as the warrior gives you +DAMAGE. So the warrior gives you the same bonus all the time, not just when you crit, and then when you do crit, that bonus is getting an additional +50% from in innate crit bonus.

So if a normal attack does 1000 damage. Warrior will buff that to to 1016, then if you crit, it gets +50% so your crit will do 1524.

With the Shadow, your normal attack will still do 1000. If you crit, it gets +51.6%, so your crit will do 1516. Even if you had 100% crit chance, Shadow would be worse than warrior.

They did the same thing with the Champion system and the passives in the ritual. Why on earth would you take a +1% crit damage bonus when you could take a +1% flat damage bonus instead.

Bob NewSCART posted:

What's a good mundus stone that actually works?

Also when's that hand of almalexia outfit dropping? I want that.. Badly
I did some more testing, and while I was correct that the shadow and warrior have the same values, there is more going on. At first i was testing just straight weapon attacks, not abilities. I tested some abilities and I was get a lot higher crits with shaodw than I was warrior. I don't know exactly whats happening, but I guess its because weapon damage gets applied to the damage of skill in some fashion, then other buffs get factored in, then crit damage gets factored in last buffing all of those.
There is obviously some break point though where warrior is better until you get to a certain level of crit chance first, but I don't know what that is. I did notice my sustained DPS going up slightly with shadow vs warrior and I am at 55% crit chance.

Which mundus stone depends on your build, and some builds might want to use armor traits other than divines, in which case the mundus stone effect is minimal.

eSporks
Jun 10, 2011

Decided to see how high I could get my bounty before dying.


The only reason I died is because of an awful lag spike while I was trying to tank a guard and regen stam.

Snayke
Mar 5, 2009
How active is the DC goon guild? I do have a DC character, but are most of the DC goons in the EP guild?

Graphics
Jun 9, 2003

After testing a half dozen Sorc PVP builds over the last month I've finally settled on something that provides great DPS, sustain, and survivability. Yes, all three are possible. High Magicka is very important with this build because shield stacking is what keeps you alive. If you're a Sorc I highly suggest trying this out (let me know if you don't have access to some of this gear and I'll try to find an alternative):

Stat points: 62 in Magick (VR14)

Gear is all Purple, V14 if crafted, and at minimum V12 if purchased.

1x Destruction Staff - I run flame most of the time but if I'm dueling or encountering a lot of tanky reflect DK's I will switch to lightning (they can't reflect it; plus it procs shards often). Sword and board is viable as well here for blocking and the reflect but you won't generate as much Magicka or Ultimate.
1x Healing Staff

5x Whitestrakes (2 Heavy, 3 Light)
4x Healer (3 Accesories, 1 Light armor)
2x Seducer (1 light armor, 1 staff -- both staves of course)

The Whitestrakes provides survivability (the extra 9k shield procc'd at 30% has saved my rear end more times than I can count, especially when someone tries to gank me). Healer provides damage, sustain, and more magicka for bigger shields. Seducer gets your regen right to the sweet spot. I was running 2x Torug's Pact over seducer for more damage but the regen ends up giving you more DPS, so it was a good change. If you can't use Healer gear you should look into Warlock gear instead. I run 2 heavy pieces because with all the stamina stacking overpowerd bullshit happening these days you kind of have to. I know if I made one of these Medium I could take advantage of the Undaunted passive but based on testing both I like 2x heavy more.

Champion points should be spent in Bastion for bigger/more powerful shields, magicka regen, and magicka damage. Obviously customize to your race and whatever you are weakest in. Bastion is required though. Shields keep you alive so you can dish out crazy damage.

Enchantments are full magicka. I've got Nirnhoned on my staves but Sharpened obviously works too. I have 1 piece of my armor as Nirnhoned as well for extra spell resist but this isn't required. It is really nice though. For traits on your gear, make sure to use Infused on Helm, Chest, and legs. Divines on everything else.

Your active mundus stone should be Atronach for magicka regen.

Skills I use (but this is completely up to you):

Bar 1: Degeneration, Velocious Curse, Crystal Frags, Crushing Shocks, Ball of Lightning (you could remove BOL and add Magicka Detonation if you have it, or an execute like mages wrath)
Bar 2: Healing Ward, Boundless Storm, Hardened Ward, Harness Magicka, Ball of Lightning (Harness Magicka can be swapped with Shuffle depending on the situation and how many stamina NB's are trying to kill you, or BOL if you keep it on bar #1)

Ults: Overload is great for insane light attack crits and the third bar so that's always on there, then I switch between Greater Atronach for unreflectable damage against DK's during duels, and flawless dawnbreaker to finish people off.

With everything above my stats look like the following as a Dark Elf (in PVP land, with food stat buff):

Magicka: 29100
Health: 20000
Stamina: 13000
Spell Damage: 1400 (1658 buffed)
Magicka Recovery: 1483
Spell Resist: 15900 (23168 buffed)
Physical Resist: 7983 (13359 buffed)

If you're rolling a new Sorc go Imperial or High Elf. I went Dark Elf because Vampire was all the rage when I rolled mine, but it's not anymore. I am a werewolf however for the stam regen passive (but I never transform).

With this build I can 1v1 pretty much any build in the game. I can't actually kill everyone, but they can't kill me either (which is better than dying); this is rare though, for the most part I win. In 1vX I absolutely dominate unless 3 NB's jump me at the same time, and even then I get away (barely) 50% of the time. The key is to sustain yourself, stay patient, don't panic, and wait for your opponent to blow through their resources. Wear them down with your 2 (or 3 if you have magicka detonation) DOTs while you keep yourself alive with your shields. Toss frags at them as they proc. Weave heavy and light attacks in when you can to generate mana and keep up the pressure. Eventually they will start to realize they can't kill you and get nervous. This is when you put on pressure and use ults.

I think that's it! If you have any questions let me know. Thought I'd share this with others after trying a so many builds; you guys shouldn't waste all the money I did to get here.

If you want to see a similar build in action check out KingRichard on YouTube. The idea for using Whitestrakes and the general playstyle comes from him (the rest of my gear is an improvement on his however). Plus he's loving amazing at this game, so you'll learn a lot.

Graphics fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Apr 20, 2015

Krakatoah
Jul 8, 2009

Super High-School Level Bean-dog
Note to self: don't ever go poking around in certain parts of ESO's official forums again, there's enough whine there from all the min/maxers to rival Sheogorath's entire cheese collection! It's made me a little scared to be a Nord to be quite frank. :stonk:

GuyUpNorth
Apr 29, 2014

Witty phrases on random basis
So the aforementioned anal spergs who want to squeeze every last second from Trial speedruns?

NuckmasterJ
Aug 9, 2008
Grimey Drawer
AAAAAAAAAAAAND its Monday again. I really need to change my weekend so I don't have monday's off anymore so I don't have to wait for the servers to come back up at a random time.

My weekend was spent making 4 Alts on EP cause DC sucks.

Seriously my fellow goons, if you want to PVP don't go DC! Every Cyrodil campaign is just DC getting crushed by everyone.

NuckmasterJ fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Apr 20, 2015

Wet Fifty
Dec 6, 2005

Greetings from the inner-
city, high-humidity, ass
and titty bar.
So, as someone who hasn't had any character over level 15 even in the beta, what are some good beginner builds. I do like to kill poo poo, but I also like it to be FUN murder.

NuckmasterJ
Aug 9, 2008
Grimey Drawer

Wet Fifty posted:

So, as someone who hasn't had any character over level 15 even in the beta, what are some good beginner builds. I do like to kill poo poo, but I also like it to be FUN murder.

What class are you?

Wet Fifty
Dec 6, 2005

Greetings from the inner-
city, high-humidity, ass
and titty bar.

NuckmasterJ posted:

What class are you?

That's just it. I'm looking to try any class that has fun elements to it. (Yes, I know fun is very subjective.) I currently have a level 6 nightblade and a level 6 sorceror.

Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

NB is pretty fun if you like to be annoying or burst things down in a matter of seconds. That being said, I main a sorcerer and it is incredibly fun. I've gone between both a melee build and a caster/healer build and there's no end to the cool poo poo you can do as one. If anything the only thing I'll say that Sorcerers can't do as effectively as other classes is tank, but that's by a moderate margin.

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

So I played in the beta and then came back for this past weekend due to it being free and all. The game has its flaws, but it's not all that bad.

Is there a way to get the game for less than $60? Or am I stuck hoping for a Steam sale or similar?

CompeAnansi
Feb 1, 2011

I respectfully decline
the invitation to join
your hallucination

Floppychop posted:

So I played in the beta and then came back for this past weekend due to it being free and all. The game has its flaws, but it's not all that bad.

Is there a way to get the game for less than $60? Or am I stuck hoping for a Steam sale or similar?

If you got in on the free weekend, you should have received a coupon code for 25% off that expires in May. But you can only use that code on their online store (so no steam purchases).

NuckmasterJ
Aug 9, 2008
Grimey Drawer

Wet Fifty posted:

That's just it. I'm looking to try any class that has fun elements to it. (Yes, I know fun is very subjective.) I currently have a level 6 nightblade and a level 6 sorceror.

So really until you have most of the skills from the various skill lines you don't need a concrete build for any class. Most of the abilities do things that make people die or keep you alive!

Deltia has some good builds for post 1.6 patch for most classes including youtube video's explaining alot of things.

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Britt Burns
Nov 24, 2007
Biscuit Hider
Here are the patch notes:

quote:

OVERVIEW
The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited v2.0.6 is an incremental patch that fixes a number of issues including some Templar abilities, quests, long loading screens, and more. Also remember that the Senche-Leopard will be removed from the Crown Store after the maintenance for this patch. The total size for this patch is approximately 225MB.

FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS
Combat & Gameplay
General
Fixed an issue that was resulting in groups not having a designated group leader. If you continue to experience this issue, please let us know!

Templar
Aedric Spear
Focused Charge: Fixed an issue where you couldn’t activate other abilities for a short time after using Focused Charge or its morphs. We also fixed an issue where the effects from this ability would get stuck on you.
Dawn’s Wrath
Eclipse: Fixed an issue where this ability would trigger your global cooldowns every time it reflected another ability.

Guild
Undaunted
Bone Shield
Fixed an issue where the damage shield from this ability was only absorbing 3% of the damage done.
Fixed an issue where recasting this ability would not refresh the damage shield value.
Fixed an issue where some ranks of this ability were absorbing all types of damage, rather than just physical damage.

Champion System
Fixed an issue where some player characters were unable to gain Enlightenment.
You will now receive a full Enlightenment pool (equal to 12 days of Enlightenment) when first unlocking the Champion System on your account.

Monsters
Ice Wraith
Shard Burst no longer causes the Ice Wraith to become untargetable if it leashes while casting, specifically affecting Duriatundur in Coldharbour.

Crafting & Economy
General
Reduced the monetary value of stolen armor and weapons to approximately one third of the original value.

Crown Store
General
When you read "Crown Racial Motifs 4: The Nords" but you already know the Nord style, you will now receive an error message telling you as much.

Dungeons & Group Content
Dungeons
Elden Hollow
Oraneth's Necrotic Circle will no longer permanently get stuck on you if you crash during the battle with Oraneth.

Veteran Dungeons
Veteran Fungal Grotto
The Shadow Bolt cast by the Spawn of Mephala will no longer continue to travel after you dodge the projectile.
The Watcher’s Daedric Destruction now correctly damages you if you stand anywhere within the telegraph when it explodes.

Exploration & Itemization
General
Due to extensive pillaging, many containers in Mzeneldt (the Dwemer ruins from the Fighters Guild questline) and Avanchnzel (the Dwemer delve located in the Rift) have been ransacked, causing many of them to be emptier than before. We are looking at increasing the number of interactable objects in other Dwemer locations in the future.

Miscellaneous
General
Fixed an issue where you could get blocked on a loading screen.

Quests & Zones
Auridon
Lifting the Veil: Fixed an issue where you would have to relog to get the disguise to appear once you were transported to the Veiled Heritance island.

Deshaan
Mechanical Murder: Fixed an issue where Lieutenant Silen could be unintentionally killed.

Main Quest
Shadow of Sancre Tor: Fixed an issue where you could not consecrate the Dragonguard Shrine.

Shadowfen
Trail of the Skin Stealer: Fixed an issue where you could block Nedrasa from spawning for other player characters.

They nerfed my ledgermain scheme :argh:

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