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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:please shield your freighters. even if its the bare minimum And get a friend in a sidewinder to escort you.
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EdEddnEddy posted:The Type-7 Can do 232 without shields or anything essential. That is still my moneymaker back in populated space. :/ Huh. I wanted to tell you that you're bad and wrong, but it's actually not bad! That handling, though. I think if that was my budget I'd still take an asp and just downgrade the fuel scoop, but different strokes for different folks. Edit: when you say you don't have a planetary landing module I'm not sure if you mean the planetary landing suite or the SRV bay, but either way, bad and wrong.  Call the fuel rats if you're genuinely stuck.
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Mar 8, 2016 17:21
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Your Loyal Vizier posted:Huh. I wanted to tell you that you're bad and wrong, but it's actually not bad! That handling, though. I think if that was my budget I'd still take an asp and just downgrade the fuel scoop, but different strokes for different folks. What Handling? This thing is nimble for a freighter (feels near the same as a drat Cobra) and depending on the fuel load, I can push it up to 30-32LY for jumps hah! Also you can mount a Huge fuel scoop and finish fuel scooping before you finish scanning the star you just jumped in on. I am not stuck, stuck, just got caught in the middle of nowhere when Horizons dropped and I don't have either the Planetary Landing or SRV Bay installed so I haven't had a chance to use it any since the Beta.  I've flown past so many cool planets without being able to land and explore.
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Mar 8, 2016 17:47
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EdEddnEddy posted:What Handling? This thing is nimble for a freighter (feels near the same as a drat Cobra) and depending on the fuel load, I can push it up to 30-32LY for jumps hah! Also you can mount a Huge fuel scoop and finish fuel scooping before you finish scanning the star you just jumped in on. The handling that makes up the difference between "nimble for a freighter" and just "nimble." The asp fully deserves its agility rating of 6. I'm not saying don't fly the Type-6! But re: range and everything else you said, here's what an asp on the same budget as your fit can do. And keep in mind that's fully loaded, if you strip it down like your type-6 fit it goes up to ~37ly. The fuel time is longer but so is your total range, and I suspect if you're scanning the stars each jump, you'll still fill up before you're done scoping out a system. You also have the option to swap the scoop and hangars once you make more cash. Anyway, I'm glad you're not stuck. My terribly fit Distant Worlds asp gets about the same jump range as your type-6, and I find I can do about 2k ly in an hour when I'm hauling rear end and not scanning. I would definitely recommend marking your spot, flying back to the bubble and grabbing modules for planetary landing, and then flying back. Playing moonbuggy is a loving hoot, and if you gofast it'll probably take you less than 4 hours to get refit and get back. I've got about the same distance to go till my next waypoint, I'll race you if you want 
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Mar 8, 2016 19:08
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Your Loyal Vizier posted:The handling that makes up the difference between "nimble for a freighter" and just "nimble." The asp fully deserves its agility rating of 6. I'm not saying don't fly the Type-6! But re: range and everything else you said, here's what an asp on the same budget as your fit can do. And keep in mind that's fully loaded, if you strip it down like your type-6 fit it goes up to ~37ly. The fuel time is longer but so is your total range, and I suspect if you're scanning the stars each jump, you'll still fill up before you're done scoping out a system. You also have the option to swap the scoop and hangars once you make more cash. Haha well if I can get the time I hope to make it back home Tonight to fit up and head back out, so I might take you up on it but after tonight and tomorrow night, I won't be in Elite again until Maybe this weekend (pending I get some GDC Tickets or not...)
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Mar 8, 2016 20:02
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EdEddnEddy posted:Haha well if I can get the time I hope to make it back home Tonight to fit up and head back out, so I might take you up on it but after tonight and tomorrow night, I won't be in Elite again until Maybe this weekend (pending I get some GDC Tickets or not...) Lol, fair enough. In that case I'll probably participate in tonight's DW meetup, and then continue to take my time and put my name on every star I see (because I'm a vain child). We'll see who gets to their goal first 
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Mar 8, 2016 21:10
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Hello, just started playing 2 days ago. Liking the game so far. Even met a friendly player that helped me do a bunch of bounties so I could afford a FS drive to make it to Getrud and buy a Cobra. Whats my next step? Should I join up with goons or will I be OK solo? I've been pulled out of supercruise several times by other players but they say I have no record and leave me alone.
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Mar 8, 2016 23:57
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Xinlum posted:Hello, just started playing 2 days ago. Liking the game so far. Even met a friendly player that helped me do a bunch of bounties so I could afford a FS drive to make it to Getrud and buy a Cobra. Whats my next step? Should I join up with goons or will I be OK solo? I've been pulled out of supercruise several times by other players but they say I have no record and leave me alone. Do you want to blow things up? Explore the galaxy and find weird poo poo? Play Space Trucker? Play Han Solo? Participate in power play or community goal events? All of the above? You've already accomplished the step that stymies most people: getting out of that sidewinder. The cobra is a great marty stu ship that can be refit to do any of those things I listed decently. Decide which one(s) sounds interesting to you, and go look up how to get involved. If you said combat only, go get a Diamondback Scout. If you gave literally any other answer, congratulations! The cobra is the ship for you, probably for quite some time. She's lovely. Post here about what you want to do, and me and a host of other Coriolis Warriors will bicker endlessly about what the best possible cobra fit for you is.
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Mar 9, 2016 00:43
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EdEddnEddy posted:I am not stuck, stuck, just got caught in the middle of nowhere when Horizons dropped and I don't have either the Planetary Landing or SRV Bay installed so I haven't had a chance to use it any since the Beta. We can't really land on cool planets yet.
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Mar 9, 2016 06:40
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Just bought and outfit a long range combat fitted anaconda (fighting trader? I dunno) with cargo racks instead of extra armor. Saved a shitload buying from a Li Yong-Rui shipyard in Epsilon Ceti. I feel like I'm now flying an oil tanker covered with guns. I kind of like it? DancingShade fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Mar 9, 2016 |
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Mar 9, 2016 07:08
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DancingShade posted:Saved a shitload buying from a Li Yong-Rui shipyard in Epsilon Ceti. Whats the deal there?
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Mar 9, 2016 07:13
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slidebite posted:Whats the deal there? Powerplay. Any system he exploits get an outfitting discount. Powerplay bonuses are also the reason I only RES farm in Arissa Lavigny-Duval control systems. (you don't need to be in their factions to benefit) If you go to galactic powers -> standing -> stats you'll see what I mean.
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Mar 9, 2016 07:14
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IM FREEEEEE
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Mar 9, 2016 07:26
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Kuvo posted:IM FREEEEEE  Well done, I know the exact pain you went through. (I swear we used to have a high five emote once but we have like a billion forum emotes now so  )
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Mar 9, 2016 07:32
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Kuvo posted:IM FREEEEEE Now do Empire.
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Mar 9, 2016 07:50
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mpyro posted:Now do Empire. He's already a Master in Empire, at least. I still need to get around to dragging myself up from "None, Zero %" sometime  On the bright side, I've just discovered Chief Petty Officer is already good enough for a Federal Assault Shuttle, so my most immediate desire for a rank locked ship later is already dealt with
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Mar 9, 2016 08:36
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Chef Pretty Officer is the best rank.
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Mar 9, 2016 08:43
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It's a pretty good rank, but Rear Admiral and Duke share actual best rank status because once you hit those there's nothing but (a lot of) money stopping you from owning All The Ships.
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Mar 9, 2016 15:22
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I don't know, I really like "Prince" as a rank name. It's not as absurd as whatever comes next (King, I think?) but it's still more important sounding than "Duke". Also I don't like being a pretend admiral if I can't order pretend fleets around, so all the higher Fed ranks automatically lose. By the way, from now on you may address me as "Prince Libluini" when quoting my posts.
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Mar 9, 2016 17:32
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Is mining any good? If yes, what ship/ how it works? I have seen only mining lasers and refineries, missing anything?
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Mar 9, 2016 18:26
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I'm having fun mining but it's pretty autistic. I don't think it's for everyone- I mainly watch a movie on my other monitor, or listen to music, and drink beer while I mine. I find it relaxing. You will probably find it boring. Here's a good guide: https://www.themittani.com/features/elite-dangerous-mining-guide
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Mar 9, 2016 18:28
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For now I'm taking a long journey to what I think is the closest empire planet to turn in 100k of bounties. Having fun jumping to a system, checking out the closest signal or station, then jumping to the next one. What's with all the different faction leaders I can pledge to? Am I reading it right that players are influencing what space these guys control ala chromehounds? Does it matter who I pledge to? Also when I'm at a distress signal with salvage and a space cop or rescue vehicle is there, will they fire at me for collecting the cargo?
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Mar 9, 2016 19:35
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Mar 9, 2016 20:18
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RattiRatto posted:Is mining any good? In addition to mining lasers and refineries, you're going to want to consider both prospector drones and collector drones. Firing a prospector drone into an asteroid will tell you the composition of the rock in question, allowing you to mine only the good rocks, and it will also increase yields from that rock fourfold. Collector drones will fly around, picking up asteroid chunks and delivering them to your cargo hold, because steering your ship around to scoop up fragments manually (the way it used to be in the bad old days) is for suckers.
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Mar 9, 2016 20:47
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I have no idea how people mined without limpets. It is eye-bleedingly tedious.
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Mar 9, 2016 20:50
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RattiRatto posted:Is mining any good? If you want to get into mining, there's a Community Goal out in Varati starting soon for Palladium. Get paid for the Pd you mine and get a big cash payout at the end of it depending on how much is mined in total and how much you drop off. The CG payouts add up.
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Mar 9, 2016 20:55
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Here's a neat ship comparison tool: http://www.alpha-orbital.com/elite-sct/ Click the pics for more detail. Much prettier than the wiki anyway.
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As for babby's first mining ship I'd go with a Cobra Mk4 or Type 6. The more internal slots the better. http://coriolis.io/outfit/cobra_mk_iv/04D4D4A3D3A3D4C--2l2l---0303200302C001P4.Iw18SQ==.Aw18SQ== http://coriolis.io/outfit/type_6_transporter/03D4D4A2D3A2D4C2l2l---04042003C001P4.Iw1-kA==.Aw1-kA== You can save money on using a smaller refinery but then you'll have to manage it. The 4B has just enough room to hold everything you'll find in a pristine metallic ring.
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Efexeye posted:I have no idea how people mined without limpets. It is eye-bleedingly tedious. I've never owned a limpet and don't even know how they work. 68k profit in mining from like a year and two months ago. I feel old.
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nippythefish posted:I've never owned a limpet and don't even know how they work. 68k profit in mining from like a year and two months ago. I feel old. Limpets are essentially a type of ammunition that sits in your cargo hold, and is consumed by a couple of type of Limpet Controller modules. They generally have a limited lifespan, and do their thing autonomously. Limpets are module-agnostic. Collector Limpet Controller: Shoots out limpets, which fly around and grab asteroid fragments after you've lasered them off an asteroid. Speeds up rock collection immeasurably. Prospector Limpet Controller: Shoots a limpet at an asteroid, which will provide you with a mineral composition survey of that particular rock. Also quadruples yields from that rock. Hatch Breaker Limpet Controller: Shoots out limpets that try to grab on to an enemy ship (whose shields are down), and dump stuff from his cargo hold into space. Necessary for the career pirate, as blowing up ships tends to blow up their cargo, too. Fuel Transfer Limpet Controller: Each limpet ferries one ton of fuel from your ship to a target ship. The Fuel Rats and Fuel Frogs make use of these. When you install a Limpet module, you also assign it's function to your firegroups, like a weapon.
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Xinlum posted:For now I'm taking a long journey to what I think is the closest empire planet to turn in 100k of bounties. Having fun jumping to a system, checking out the closest signal or station, then jumping to the next one. What's with all the different faction leaders I can pledge to? Am I reading it right that players are influencing what space these guys control ala chromehounds? Does it matter who I pledge to? Much like in Firefly, salvage is illegal. If you get scanned with that stuff in your hold the cops consider it stolen and you'll be fined for it, but it's very unlikely you'll be fired on. You have to act pretty darn quick if you want to grab it in the first place though, because rescue vehicles hoover the stuff up very quickly. Power play is complicated but yes, you got the jist of it. It totally does not matter who you pledge to, pick whoever's weapon reward sounds cool or the power whose super serious space politics jive with you. If you decide to get involved, each of the powers has a fairly active subreddit where organization happens.
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Zaardvark posted:Limpets are essentially a type of ammunition that sits in your cargo hold, and is consumed by a couple of type of Limpet Controller modules. They generally have a limited lifespan, and do their thing autonomously. Limpets are module-agnostic. I've pretty much read all this before but have never had a desire to put them into action. Thanks for the effort, though.
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Occasionally Powerplay NPCs poop out "Federal Courier Reports". Are they worth fitting a collector drone + cargohold for?
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DreadLlama posted:Occasionally Powerplay NPCs poop out "Federal Courier Reports". Are they worth fitting a collector drone + cargohold for? I honestly have no idea what that is and googling turned up nothing. Only one way to find out! I'm guessing it's an enemy power play token of some kind and turning it into your benevolent overseers will reward merits, maybe as a confirmation of undermining? Who the gently caress knows. Just skip the drone and scoop the thing manually, you only need one to find out what it does.
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nippythefish posted:I've pretty much read all this before but have never had a desire to put them into action. It's literally the difference between an asteroid taking 30 seconds or 5 minutes to clean out.
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Efexeye posted:It's literally the difference between an asteroid taking 30 seconds or 5 minutes to clean out. But being wilfully obtuse and unwilling to try new things makes you edgy and cool
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Trying to mine without limpets is completely and utterly hosed. With limpets and auto refinery bins it's a decent method to while away the time as you listen to a podcast or something. It's more engaging than space trucking at any rate imo.
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I'm enjoying my first exploration trip in my Cobra. Here's some gas porn:
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Water world, orbiting a water world, orbiting a neutron star. Finding all sorts of nonsense like this near the core.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Water world, orbiting a water world, orbiting a neutron star. Finding all sorts of nonsense like this near the core. That's one pretty ship. I'm getting tired of staring at this asp. Soon we will be reunited, my sweet diamondback. Soon. I took some screenshots tonight of the core from inside a pretty striking nebula a few thousand ly above the galactic plane (the one above wp18 for those doing DWE), will try and post them later. Not as good of a birds eye view as I'd hoped, too far out from the center. Still neat though. I had to use J1 boost to get into and out of it, and on the way back out the game tried really really hard to tell me there was no plottable route back to where I'd come from. I retraced my steps manually using my flight logs in EDDiscovery, and that worked fine. But without that I'd have been proper screwed. Moral of the story: when exploring, third party logging tools are your friend. The navcomp apparently gets unreliable if you go too far out onto the fringe. It senses opportunity and does not shy from betrayal
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