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AdjectiveNoun
Oct 11, 2012

Everything. Is. Fine.

Pyroxene Stigma posted:

Russia is so far from being a leading world power. I can think of three nations off the top of my head I'd put before it.

USA, China... what's the third one you'd put ahead of Russia?

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Koalas March
May 21, 2007



"You miss 100% of the shots that you never take. - Wayne Gretsky" - Ted Cruz

edit: wrong thread. :ohdear:

Koalas March fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Sep 25, 2013

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug
What I find most amusing is that starts with "and as we all know, Barack :siren: HUSSEIN :siren: Obama is not a natural born citizen and gave us a fake certificate."

They just won't let that go, will they? It amuses me because the election got won by Obama so hard they can't even claim voter fraud on it so they have to attack his legitimacy.

I also can't help but assume that the people that dogpile Washington end up rioting. Yeah they're saying "hey this is peaceful!" but this is the same political group that has a deep adoration for guns, demands that we bomb everything that isn't America at the slightest provocation, and pine for an era when you could hang somebody for the heinous crime of not being white.

They're literally saying "we are going to Washington to put Obama in prison for a bunch of poo poo we got together and decided he did." That isn't peaceful and is a direct threat on the guy.

ToxicSlurpee fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Sep 25, 2013

hseiken
Aug 25, 2013
Consider myself a masochist, but I listened to about 4-5 hours of the Ted Cruz filibuster fiasco.

I've put up with Mike Lee and now Marcu Rubio performing for an audience of themselves this whole time. You'd think CSPAN was Fox News 2. I don't know how much more I can put up with this. Rhetoric and anecdotes and not a single fact. And of course, you're probably aware of the ironic reading of Green Eggs and Ham to his kids. It's obvious Ted Cruz doesn't listen to what he says else he'd have understood the very juvenile tale written by Dr. Seuss to entertain kids while teaching them a lesson. God, I hate these people.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I am amused by the fact they think Obama is literally a brutal dictator who seized power in America through deception and coercion, but he will definitely leave office if enough people show up and tell him to.

The enemy is both strong and weak, continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, etc etc etc

quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.



You should click this link. With sound on.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



ToxicSlurpee posted:

What I find most amusing is that starts with "and as we all know, Barack :siren: HUSSEIN :siren: Obama is not a natural born citizen and gave us a fake certificate."

They just won't let that go, will they? It amuses me because the election got won by Obama so hard they can't even claim voter fraud on it so they have to attack his legitimacy.

I also can't help but assume that the people that dogpile Washington end up rioting. Yeah they're saying "hey this is peaceful!" but this is the same political group that has a deep adoration for guns, demands that we bomb everything that isn't America at the slightest provocation, and pine for an era when you could hang somebody for the heinous crime of not being white.

They're literally saying "we are going to Washington to put Obama in prison for a bunch of poo poo we got together and decided he did." That isn't peaceful and is a direct threat on the guy.
No, to them the fact that he has a ' Muslim sounding name' justifies everything

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

AdjectiveNoun posted:

USA, China... what's the third one you'd put ahead of Russia?

Sri Lanka. :colbert:

Germany's probably up there. Smaller sphere but enormous amounts of pull inside of it.

But yeah, while Russia's a domestic basket case, it has a pretty good grasp of proxy imperialism, a strong intergenerational influence on a lot of Central Asia, and enough resources that it can kind of sort of prop up its allies when the going gets tough. It turns out you don't need to have your poo poo together internally to be a significant regional* power.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

quiggy posted:

You should click this link. With sound on.



:argh: forever

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

He also wrote a book



If you keep just the title and the first line, the book has a new meaning.

ZobarStyl
Oct 24, 2005

This isn't a war, it's a moider.

Orange Devil posted:

The enemy is both strong and weak, continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, etc etc etc
I'm always at odds with calling out these fascists because on one hand it's an overused cliche and on the other hand it feels like they use Eco as a goddamn handbook.

"Oh hey, diversity IS treason! This thing is great!"

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

He also wrote a book



If you keep just the title and the first line, the book has a new meaning.

Is that a literal blood gate on the cover?

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.
And it's open!

quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.


Guys that is clearly a pillar viewed from down low. Don't be willfully dense.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gy7xtZ2pRg

Did this already get posted?

Mr. Bow Tie is convinced that the President is being racist at the CBC meeting, but for some unknown reason Chris Wallace just can't see it.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

quiggy posted:

Guys that is clearly a pillar viewed from down low. Don't be willfully dense.

It's an elder god vomiting blood out of a gate and I refuse to believe anything else.

PrinceRandom
Feb 26, 2013

Sir Tonk posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gy7xtZ2pRg

Did this already get posted?

Mr. Bow Tie is convinced that the President is being racist at the CBC meeting, but for some unknown reason Chris Wallace just can't see it.

How can you not SEE this Wallace! He said OVERCOME at the CBC! He's obviously out for that tasty white blood.


As a sidenote, the top recomended video (with over 2.6 million views) is called OBAMA'S ALIEN SECRET SERVICE. I... can't tell if it's is parody or not.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

AdjectiveNoun posted:

USA, China... what's the third one you'd put ahead of Russia?

Arguably Japan, India, Germany and the U.K, depending on how you measure it.

poor nose
Oct 29, 2005

PrinceRandom posted:

As a sidenote, the top recomended video (with over 2.6 million views) is called OBAMA'S ALIEN SECRET SERVICE. I... can't tell if it's is parody or not.

Is that the one where they swear you can see Obama's SS agent change his facial features in front of a crowd of thousands but nobody says anything?

It's pretty funny. I can't take anyone that believes in lizard people remotely seriously about anything.

For such a superior race of beings trying to control the world behind the scenes they would have to understand how badly TV cameras mess with their disguises but they just can't seem to help themselves from getting in front of a camera.

SilentD
Aug 22, 2012

by toby

Mister Macys posted:

Is that a literal blood gate on the cover?

It looks like one of those big rear end multi story columns in the nice offices downtown. As if you were standing under it looking up at the ceiling... just with a red tint and somebody forgot to pay their electric bill.

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!

Sir Tonk posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gy7xtZ2pRg

Did this already get posted?

Mr. Bow Tie is convinced that the President is being racist at the CBC meeting, but for some unknown reason Chris Wallace just can't see it.

Hatred of tucker Carlson has no political boundaries. Everyone thinks he is a dick.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

The_Rob posted:

Hatred of tucker Carlson has no political boundaries. Everyone thinks he is a dick.

Finally, some bipartisan inroads.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

SilentD posted:

It looks like one of those big rear end multi story columns in the nice offices downtown. As if you were standing under it looking up at the ceiling... just with a red tint and somebody forgot to pay their electric bill.

I got my Mac hooked up to the TV and I'm sitting 8 feet away.
I didn't know it was a column cause it's a pretty dark pic.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Sir Tonk posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gy7xtZ2pRg

Did this already get posted?

Mr. Bow Tie is convinced that the President is being racist at the CBC meeting, but for some unknown reason Chris Wallace just can't see it.

I hate that I now have to say that Wallace was pretty loving hilarious.

"I don't know Tucker, do you want me to maybe talk about healthcare?"

PrinceRandom
Feb 26, 2013

Tatum Girlparts posted:

I hate that I now have to say that Wallace was pretty loving hilarious.

"I don't know Tucker, do you want me to maybe talk about healthcare?"

"I hope you play that clip from the CBC on your show; Now that's, that's News."

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
His name is Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson, you proles.

edit: this is E/N but every time I see him I think about how I made a post a long long time ago about how I thought Tucker was showing signs of being good/insightful/independent. I've got maybe 10 posts I regret in hindsight (though I can only remember them when cued, and not to say I shouldn't regret more even if I don't) and that's one of them.

pangstrom fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Sep 25, 2013

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
So I haven't heard anybody talk about Rush today, I'm guessing that the usual group of people who are brave enough to weather his never-ending stream of bullshit have all chomped down on their cyanide filled molar?

Sir Tonk posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gy7xtZ2pRg

Did this already get posted?

Mr. Bow Tie is convinced that the President is being racist at the CBC meeting, but for some unknown reason Chris Wallace just can't see it.

Do you think it's true Chris that black people are the real racists?

The Warszawa
Jun 6, 2005

Look at me. Look at me.

I am the captain now.
This is your daily reminder that Tucker Carlson bragged about rolling a gay man on national TV in 2007 and still has a loving job.

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.

Isn't he basically self-employed at this point though?

Though his insane misogynistic rant about the new Crossfire is a more contemporary reason why he's a Terrible Person, that's still worth bringing up.

The Warszawa
Jun 6, 2005

Look at me. Look at me.

I am the captain now.
Eh, that was Patrick Howley and not Tucker Carlson (still under his masthead, though).

Considering the Daily Caller was the group that tried that frame-job on Bob Menendez, I have a feeling Carlson's reaching the end of his rope.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

pangstrom posted:

Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson

every time I see him I think about how I made a post a long long time ago about how I thought Tucker was showing signs of being good/insightful/independent. I've got maybe 10 posts I regret in hindsight (though I can only remember them when cued, and not to say I shouldn't regret more even if I don't) and that's one of them.

Seems like he went straight down into knuckledragging resentful GOP fratboy mode with The Daily Caller. Never liked the guy but even I never expected that.

kik2dagroin
Mar 23, 2007

Use the anger. Use it.

Phone posted:

So I haven't heard anybody talk about Rush today, I'm guessing that the usual group of people who are brave enough to weather his never-ending stream of bullshit have all chomped down on their cyanide filled molar?
I didn't get a chance to listen today unfortunately. Considering that Cruz mentioned Limbaugh during his floor speech, scheduled an interview on Limbaugh's show immediately after the cloture vote, and Rush is back from a 5 day break I figured he'd be in rare form today. I'm desperately trying to find a podcast of today's episode with headlines like this popping up all over the right-wing media tracking sites:
Limbaugh: Obamacare May Be The Law Of The Land But "So Was Slavery [At] One Time"
Limbaugh Attacks Fox News For Using "Liberal Talking Points"
Ted Cruz to Rush Limbaugh: Reporters ‘Act Like They’re Hollywood Gossip Columnists’
Limbaugh Attacks Popular Science As "Politically Motivated" For Backing Scientific Consensus On Global Warming

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

In the most what the gently caress images from Breitbart



Breitbart has published an article about why conservatives should support gay marriage...

quote:

Looking back into history from the vantage point of 2013, it actually seems strange that it’s conservatives that need to be convinced to support gay marriage recognition.

Simply describing the relationship between conservatives and libertarians and the government indicates deep resistance to allowing federal, state or local officials dictate what we can do in our home. The right to have control over what our children are taught and to select schools (or teach them ourselves), the right to protect our homes and property, the right to control what we do with our own property, the right to not have to contribute our hard-earned money to line the pockets of government and corporate cronies – all of these ideals are predicated on valuing individuals and families over central control.

So why is marriage recognition different? Why do so many conservatives support government family planning when homosexuality gets tossed in the mix?

Religion is often either a defense or a scapegoat, but it’s not a particularly illuminating answer. Few Christians (or members of other faiths who oppose legal recognition of gay marriage) want every command of their holy teachings enshrined in law. I’ve yet to meet a Christian who wanted to make Sunday church attendance legally mandatory.

Unfortunately, gay issues have been enshrined as part of the progressive movement dating back to the sexual revolution. It didn’t have to be this way: Many of the early protesters were hardly libertines, fighting to not be beaten up by police and thrown in jail – by the government, not the church – because of their bedroom practices.

But history is what it is. Homosexuality became associated with sexual liberation by both the left and the right with very different connotations. It should not come as a surprise that there is also deep opposition to gay marriage from a contingent of old guard leftists who still subscribe to the idea that the institution is a patriarchic system of keeping people down and controlling people. When you believe government utopias and communal values supersede individual liberties and family freedom, marriage can’t help to be seen as a threat.

Conservatives believe marriage and close families are a stabilizing influence in culture, the building block of communities. They are not wrong. But that makes opposition to recognizing same-sex marriages even stranger. New generations of gays and lesbians, with no loyalty or interest in the doctrine of the sexual revolution, seek this same stabilization. There isn’t some sort of a trick or a scam or scheme. Because of the progressive control of the argument, weighted words like “equality” and “fairness” set some conservatives on edge because those words have been corrupted over decades as a way to diminish others, the socialist idea of achieving these aims by taking property and freedoms away from others.

A conservative can accept gay marriage recognition and still resist such efforts from the left. Ultimately, the government should have as little say in your family’s relationship as it does in your education and what you do with your property. That the government ties up so many incentives and rights in marriage agreements should be troubling to conservatives. Marriage should be a private contract between consenting adults to tell the state the nature of their relationship with each other for legal purposes, not a permit from the state giving its stamp of approval on their relationship.

We define our families, not the government. Ultimately, the ceding of this power to government helped create this environment of subsidies, benefits (and even penalties) that have contributed to the twisted incentives conservatives rail against.

The problem has always been too much government control, not too little. Intellectual consistency in the belief in small government mandates accepting the rights of families to organize themselves. Conservatives should resist the urge to try to use government authority to control family structures, because that power will always be subject to abuse by ideological opponents.

This is like treason on a teaparty bastion that was once run by Andrew Breitbart.

Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Sep 26, 2013

agarjogger
May 16, 2011

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

This is like treason on a teaparty bastion that was once run by Andrew Breitbart.

It's a passing interest in having real power by being on the right side of the economically safe popular issues. It's not who they are. They're on the wrong side of every single issue, like genetically or something. They know it holds them back but it ultimately doesn't matter because it's who they are.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Breitbart losing it is just the beginning because now Steven Crowder might be giving up via Twitter


"Yeah I've barely been on twitter. Partially because the Conservative movement is so disappointing that I'd rather not take part."

"Important thing for Conservatives to remember: If given enough time, @SenTedCruz WILL become @JohnMcCain too. #DefundObamacare"

"Everyone thinks that their politician is immune to the DC corruption. Be it @SenTedCruz or @RonPaul. NONE of them are. Not one."

"The point is, Conservatives put their faith in politicians, FoxNews and AM radio... it's worked out horribly."

"Apparently I'm the only one who remembers the @marcorubio bandwagon. Remember when he was your savior/profile pic? #HumanNature"

"I believe in the USA. I believe in Conservatism. I believed in @AndrewBreitbart. I do NOT believe in politicians."

CarterUSM
Mar 17, 2004
Cornfield aviator

The Warszawa posted:

Considering the Daily Caller was the group that tried that frame-job on Bob Menendez, I have a feeling Carlson's reaching the end of his rope.

With any luck, next comes the sharp jerk and cracking noise.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Breitbart losing it is just the beginning because now Steven Crowder might be giving up via Twitter


"Yeah I've barely been on twitter. Partially because the Conservative movement is so disappointing that I'd rather not take part."

"Important thing for Conservatives to remember: If given enough time, @SenTedCruz WILL become @JohnMcCain too. #DefundObamacare"

"Everyone thinks that their politician is immune to the DC corruption. Be it @SenTedCruz or @RonPaul. NONE of them are. Not one."

"The point is, Conservatives put their faith in politicians, FoxNews and AM radio... it's worked out horribly."

"Apparently I'm the only one who remembers the @marcorubio bandwagon. Remember when he was your savior/profile pic? #HumanNature"

"I believe in the USA. I believe in Conservatism. I believed in @AndrewBreitbart. I do NOT believe in politicians."

While this is slightly amusing and gratifying to read, I really REALLY hate Twitspeak with all it's "@"s and "#"s.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

quote:

"The point is, Conservatives put their faith in politicians, FoxNews and AM radio... it's worked out horribly."

:lol:

As if Crowder would turn them down if he was offered a spot on Fox or AM radio. As if there's any difference between what he does and what they do other than a professional producer and a modicum of sense.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Intel&Sebastian posted:

:lol:

As if Crowder would turn them down if he was offered a spot on Fox or AM radio. As if there's any difference between what he does and what they do other than a professional producer and a modicum of sense.

Isn't Crowder a Fox News favorite who's on there all the time anyway?

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Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Zwabu posted:

Isn't Crowder a Fox News favorite who's on there all the time anyway?

Yup he does a thing on Cavuto called Tough Crowder

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