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rodbeard posted:I don't listen to country but I'm surrounded by people that do and people definitely get salty about Taylor Swift every time she charts. I don't know enough about the other songs you've mentioned but Old Town Road somehow was number 1 on the country chart despite not being liked by any country fans. that song I mentioned by Swift was on the Hot Country Billboard for ten weeks straight cannot imagine why she's never been pulled off the billboards if people get salty every time she's up there, just a total enigma
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So, uh, what actually defines Country? The musical style? The subjects of the lyrics? The only thing I can find is "it's a ballad that tends to use these instruments."
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Jun 5, 2019 13:14
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Can somebody please explain what is going on for somebody who doesn't give a gently caress about country music?
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Bertrand Hustle posted:Can somebody please explain what is going on for somebody who doesn't give a gently caress about country music? Far as I can tell a black man wrote a country song but some white people are very angry that A) it was written by a black man and B) it's a bit too hippity-hoppity like THOSE URBANS like it.
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Jun 5, 2019 13:20
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A black man doing country? Do people not know about Darius Rucker? He's been doing country for years and he's had multiple #1 songs on country charts.
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PurpleXVI posted:So, uh, what actually defines Country? The musical style? The subjects of the lyrics? The only thing I can find is "it's a ballad that tends to use these instruments." Basically yeah, that's it. There is a bunch of sub genres, and it is all subject to the same type of clicky infighting that metal has.
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Bertrand Hustle posted:A black man doing country? Do people not know about Darius Rucker? He's been doing country for years and he's had multiple #1 songs on country charts. Yes, but he's playing regular country that sounds like any white band's country. Not that (c)rap THOSE URBANS* listen to. * I love this term, PurpleXVI and will be using it in my imitations of racist caricatures going forward.
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PurpleXVI posted:So, uh, what actually defines Country? The musical style? The subjects of the lyrics? The only thing I can find is "it's a ballad that tends to use these instruments." There are no definitive rules for what any genre is or contains because genre is vague and nebulous at the best of times. Pick any two genres that are close to each other and you'll find that there are a huge number of works that could go in one, the other, neither or both. Essentially you find a number of works that seem similar and you give that group a name, then you identify the commonly shared characteristics of those works and add any others that fit that description. But it changes over time, because you'll find stuff that fits the definition but also introduces new elements, so you either broaden the definition or split it into two genres or sub-genres. Trying to use it prescriptively is absurd. It can be a handy way to break down large numbers of things into smaller groups, but that's all. Anyone who tries to argue about what really counts as being part of a given genre doesn't understand what genre is. It's not about what is or isn't allowed, it's just a way to streamline communication. Rather than listing 50 songs you can just say "I like country music" and people will have a pretty good idea of the types of songs you might enjoy. If you try to pin down exactly what the rules of the genre are then you'll run into endless exceptions and edge cases, but you know it when you see it.
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Here's the song I think people are complaining about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUcisIlT7sM lol at the clip from Wild Wild West snuck in there. Anyway it sounds as country as anything. Gonna chalk this kurfluffle up to ol' fashioned racism. e: To clarify, the racism is thinking that "rap" is a dirty genre of music and that it ruins other genres that it touches. So a country song with a black guy talking melodically is now country rap, a lesser, impure variety of country that should be disqualified from competing with the pure country songs. Oh yeah and the people who hate it when a black guy says "you can't tell me nothing" are also the people most likely to self-identify as country music fans. LawfulWaffle has a new favorite as of 13:49 on Jun 5, 2019 |
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Jun 5, 2019 13:43
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HE SAYS: "Yeah, I like all music except for like rap and country and death metal.  " TRANSLATION: "I listen to the same bands I discovered in college 10 years, but I've recently added Imagine Dragons to my Apple Music playlist alongside Wilco and Death Cab for Cutie."
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Jun 5, 2019 13:58
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"Also, I have never heard a death metal song in my life but I have heard of the genre for some reason"
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Jun 5, 2019 14:02
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I only listen to frog rock, which is like prog rock but all the instruments are various frog and toad croakings. is my favorite band.
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Jun 5, 2019 14:04
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Personally I only listen to death metal bands that use animals as vocalists
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PurpleXVI posted:So, uh, what actually defines Country? The musical style? The subjects of the lyrics? The only thing I can find is "it's a ballad that tends to use these instruments." nowdays it's basically soft rock or pop rap but in a southern accent with a fiddle or slide guitar in the background as played on radio stations that define themselves as country music stations. it's lifestyle music for suburban white people who idolize rural living, like how jimmy buffet is lifestyle music for suburban white people who idolize getting drunk on a beach. country has very soft edges on the definition because it is more of a label than a genre definition more authentic american country music is typically called like roots music or americana
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Jun 5, 2019 14:15
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luxury handset posted:it's lifestyle music for suburban white people who idolize rural living, like how jimmy buffet is lifestyle music for suburban white people who idolize getting drunk on a beach.
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Jun 5, 2019 14:27
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One bourbon, one shot, and one beer is rap
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Jun 5, 2019 14:34
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LawfulWaffle posted:"I listen to the same bands I discovered in college" HEY!  I found some good music around that time  And most modern country music is mostly about making you feel that you made the right choice in buying a Ford F-150
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Jun 5, 2019 14:36
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:Personally I only listen to death metal bands that use animals as vocalists Big cat organ fan I see. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_organ
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All I know about modern country music is every song is about your truck and how cool trucks are and boy howdy I love my truck and it's every popular song you hear the racist bus driver listen to in your lovely suburb on your way to school.
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Bertrand Hustle posted:"Also, I have never heard a death metal song in my life but I have heard of the genre for some reason"
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Tarantula posted:Big cat organ fan I see. More like Hatebeak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwXKR9EWhXo
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Jun 5, 2019 14:49
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What do those Country people think about the gentle tunes of Bluegrass / Hiphop mixup band, GanstaGrass?
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Roblo posted:Haha. That's what does my head in. It's always specifically "death metal" (sometimes thrash). Never doom, or nu metal, or black metal, or usually not even just plain old "metal". Gotta stick that scary "death" on there. Sometimes “screamo” is the all encompassing word for heavy music even though that’s a very specific punk subgenre
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Fishstick posted:What do those Country people think about the gentle tunes of Bluegrass / Hiphop mixup band, GanstaGrass? country music is a rich tradition with a lot of crossover appeal, what contemporary country purists are antsy about is just generally gatekeeping bland applebees Whiteness and protecting "our music" from the encroaching spread of black popular music into general taste (as it has been for the last, like, hundred years of american popular music) country is one of the last remaining mostly white musical traditions in america, but sort of traditional real radio country hasn't been truly popular since like the early 90's at best in favor of 'country' being a thin paint slapped onto adult soft rock or hard rock, but with banjos, or pop rock, or just pop, or really honestly just rap music or whatever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPl8qlKq41o Mr. Fall Down Terror has a new favorite as of 14:59 on Jun 5, 2019 |
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Jun 5, 2019 14:56
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Bertrand Hustle posted:A black man doing country? Do people not know about Darius Rucker? He's been doing country for years and he's had multiple #1 songs on country charts. Charley Pride was a huge success on the country charts in the 1960s. Country's always been a bit confused about what it is. Those old country compilations they sold on TV regularly contained the Everly Brothers. Bird Dog could be confused for a country song, Devoted to You, possibly. A more popular inclusion, though, was Cathy's Clown, which does not sound traditionally country in the least. Harper Valley PTA, another standard, had a more rock beat but is sung by a very southern-sounding singer.
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reminder that Henry Ford created the industry of country western radio stations to beat back that insidious, ethnic jazz: https://jalopnik.com/henry-ford-plotted-to-destroy-black-jewish-jazz-with-c-1788536315 also the reason Lil Nas X gets racismed while Darius Rucker doesn't is because Lil Nas X doesn't submit to whiteness. note that the video for Old Town Road has more than one black person in it. as opposed to this, some random Darius Rucker video I just googled, where the entire video is Darius Rucker Parties With White Men: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im5N-0ZNf14
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Darius Rucker is One Of The Good Ones because white people went nuts for Hootie and the Blowfish.
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Did somebody say black people, country music, and racism? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRdkrDk0BQ0
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vyelkin posted:Did somebody say black people, country music, and racism? Was expecting this to be Accidental Racist.
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Jun 5, 2019 16:07
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Old Town Road is catchy as gently caress.
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Enough about country music, let's talk about the real issues, like liberals wanting to steal your video games. https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1135953974929121280?s=19
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luxury handset posted:nowdays it's basically soft rock or pop rap but in a southern accent with a fiddle or slide guitar in the background as played on radio stations that define themselves as country music stations. it's lifestyle music for suburban white people who idolize rural living, like how jimmy buffet is lifestyle music for suburban white people who idolize getting drunk on a beach. country has very soft edges on the definition because it is more of a label than a genre definition Rate Your Music gives this definition of what they define as the “contemporary country” sub-genre. quote:Contemporary country is essentially a new traditionalist movement of country that incorporates both heavily pop-influenced styles, and the more pop-averse movement of Neo-Traditionalist Country, with the common thread between them being modern styles of production and instrumentation.
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Ian Miles brain is completely broken. https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/476112846330159104 https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/916324047205441536    
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Not sure this is the place for it, but does anyone have a good rebuttal of Jordan Peterson's shite? Anything that highlights how much of an alt right psuedo-intellectual bellend he is? I have a friend who just posted about his new book on Facebook, I said something negative about him and just got "he certainly is painted that way " as a reply.
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Katt posted:Ian Miles brain is completely broken. you're forgetting that he did a political 180 because a random website gave the witcher 3 a B
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Roblo posted:Not sure this is the place for it, but does anyone have a good rebuttal of Jordan Peterson's shite? Anything that highlights how much of an alt right psuedo-intellectual bellend he is? I have a friend who just posted about his new book on Facebook, I said something negative about him and just got "he certainly is painted that way I happened to watch this a few days back, it covers most of the relevant ground: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A2UC1YQxy4
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Roblo posted:Not sure this is the place for it, but does anyone have a good rebuttal of Jordan Peterson's shite? Anything that highlights how much of an alt right psuedo-intellectual bellend he is? I have a friend who just posted about his new book on Facebook, I said something negative about him and just got "he certainly is painted that way AhhhhhhHHHHH JUST SEVER My god way to take your individual view and basically call you a mindless parrot
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Roblo posted:Not sure this is the place for it, but does anyone have a good rebuttal of Jordan Peterson's shite? Anything that highlights how much of an alt right psuedo-intellectual bellend he is? I have a friend who just posted about his new book on Facebook, I said something negative about him and just got "he certainly is painted that way you can't just rebut him in general, peterson is very good at saying nothing of consequence and refusing to commit to a position he can be proven wrong over if you can draw out some specific claim aside from the creepy self-help nonsense then you can rebut that
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