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Luigi Thirty posted:Juvi ruled so I don't know what the hell they were doing making him not be Juvi. "Nobody likes masks!" is one of the greatest WCW thoughts in hindsight, given that mask merch put Rey in the top 5 of WWE sellers for years and years. I would have spent so much allowance on lucha masks if WCW had sold them when I was a kid. 
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I felt like they were trying to position Booker as their main event Rock. Juvi's stuff was more "well Juvi is high as gently caress and can't wrestle so lets have him do this"
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May 23, 2014 21:47
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coconono posted:I felt like they were trying to position Booker as their main event Rock. Juvi's stuff was more "well Juvi is high as gently caress and can't wrestle so lets have him do this" It felt so sad and blatant when he was given the Rock Bottom.
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May 23, 2014 21:48
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MassRafTer posted:It felt so sad and blatant when he was given the Rock Bottom.
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Y'know, I remember pointing that out and being brushed off. And yeah, it was just so obvious.
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I remember he used to get knocked down and looked to be out and his opponent would mug to the crowd, then Booker T would do the spinaroonie and stand up and hit his cocky opponent with an axe kick or something. It was a great signature move, like Undertaker sitting up. I don't know if it was Wcw or WWE that changed it. It became a taunt he just randomly does in the middle of a match for no reason. It didn't even read as heelish, it just made no loving sense.
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greatn posted:I remember he used to get knocked down and looked to be out and his opponent would mug to the crowd, then Booker T would do the spinaroonie and stand up and hit his cocky opponent with an axe kick or something. The spinaroonie was/is Awesome, and I will hear no different. Juvi was/is Awesome too, but WCW's handling of him, (fake rock, "the juice", making him commentate in a language he barely spoke, tequila bottle, unmasking etc.) was crappy. And on that - Why did they make Juvi commentate in English? WCW had a Spanish Announce table, and high as gently caress Juvi gibbering on would have been entertaining as all hell to the Hispanic audience. WCW seemed to poo poo on their hispanic audience a lot too, what with the atrocious treatment of their luchadores.
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 Really though, he was gigantically racist.
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MassRafTer posted:Bischoff's ego is out of control and the company is in chaos. Having read Eric's book and listened to him on Steve Austin's podcast, the man must fall to his knees and thank god for the things that happened with Turner Broadcasting/Time Warner/AOL, because it means he can hoist all the blame for WCW's failure onto them and their boards of directors telling him what to do while not understanding wrestling at all. There's a big, BIG hint to that in the Steve Austin podcasts, in that he doesn't mention TNA once. Why would he? There he got absolute power and completely hosed it up as well, and he can't slide the blame, so he just ignores it. Really, I wonder if there would even BE a book if Eric hadn't had the dipterous merger to fall back on to blame for why WCW died.
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BrigadierSensible posted:The spinaroonie was/is Awesome, and I will hear no different. Juvi was/is Awesome too, but WCW's handling of him, (fake rock, "the juice", making him commentate in a language he barely spoke, tequila bottle, unmasking etc.) was crappy. BRO AMERICANS DON'T WANNA SEE MEXICANS OR LUCHA LIBRES WIN OKAY
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DeathChicken posted:
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Luigi Thirty posted:BRO AMERICANS DON'T WANNA SEE MEXICANS OR LUCHA LIBRES WIN OKAY Also, Americans don't give a poo poo about Japanese wrestlers, either.
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May 24, 2014 11:47
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In all fairness, I don't remember any Japanese wrestler winning the WWE belt
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omgomgomg posted:In all fairness, I don't remember any Japanese wrestler winning the WWE belt Yokozuna never won it? I thought they gave it to him so Hogan could beat him.
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greatn posted:Yokozuna never won it? I thought they gave it to him so Hogan could beat him. Yoko wasn't actually Japanese. He was born in California and his heritage was Samoan. If I'm not mistaken he was related to the Uso's and Roman Reigns.
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greatn posted:Yokozuna never won it? I thought they gave it to him so Hogan could beat him.
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I don't know guys, Yokozuna is a japanese title and his manager waves around a Japanese flag. Are you alleging that he WWE used racial stereotypes?
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greatn posted:I don't know guys, Yokozuna is a japanese title and his manager waves around a Japanese flag. Are you alleging that he WWE used racial stereotypes? 
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greatn posted:I don't know guys, Yokozuna is a japanese title and his manager waves around a Japanese flag. Are you alleging that he WWE used racial stereotypes? How would it make you feel if I told you that Akeem The African Dream was really a white guy from South Carolina?
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Next you're gonna tell me 'Mick' Foley isn't Irish.
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I think the Ultimate Warrior is still the only alien to have won the belt.
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Why were Raven and Tommy Dreamer a team? Unless Raven was messing with him again but I don't think WWE thinks things through that much. I think I just answered my own question.
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DeathChicken posted:Why were Raven and Tommy Dreamer a team? Unless Raven was messing with him again but I don't think WWE thinks things through that much. I think I just answered my own question. They were first partnered when the Dudley Boyz left ECW, and Heyman gave the fans a "holy poo poo" moment when Raven was Dreamer's mystery partner, so they beat the Dudleys and held the tag titles together. So there was a precedent for it, at least. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 16:32 on May 24, 2014 |
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Bubba Grace posted:Yoko wasn't actually Japanese. He was born in California and his heritage was Samoan. If I'm not mistaken he was related to the Uso's and Roman Reigns. Yes, he's part of the Anoa'i family. Was there seriously any WWF/WWE Samoan wrestler that isn't part of that family?
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ayn rand hand job posted:Yes, he's part of the Anoa'i family. The Rock's family is only a close family friend and not actually related. I don't think they ever said that Yokozuna was Japanese, but that he represented the country. He was a sumo wrestler that adopted the customs of his sport and sport's country.
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Rusty Shackelford posted:The Rock's family is only a close family friend and not actually related.
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Endorph posted:Isn't Yokozuna his cousin? Not by blood.
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Endorph posted:Isn't Yokozuna his cousin? Rock's grandfather and Yoko's were blood brothers. Yoko's grandfather is also quite literally the father, grandfather, or great-grandfather of every Samoan and a Tomgan in WWE history.
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Rusty Shackelford posted:The Rock's family is only a close family friend and not actually related. They're not related genetically, but my understanding is that they are considered family according to the Samoan cultural definition of family.
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Yeah, as far as being blood brothers goes, you *are* family.
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ayn rand hand job posted:Rock's grandfather and Yoko's were blood brothers. Blood brothers means close, like family, not actually related by blood.
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Batista is Filipino which is basically Japanese if you're racist
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Rusty Shackelford posted:Blood brothers means close, like family, not actually related by blood. That's the colloquial meaning in English, but in Samoan culture it's a bit different.
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fatherdog posted:That's the colloquial meaning in English, but in Samoan culture it's a bit different. Sure, but the Miavias and the Anoias are not related.
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With the number of Samoans wrestlers and the more progressive view of the fan base as a whole do you think there would be widespread acceptance of a fa'afafine wrestler in the near future?
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Rusty Shackelford posted:Blood brothers means close, like family, not actually related by blood. I never said otherwise.
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SuperHunBastard1690 posted:With the number of Samoans wrestlers and the more progressive view of the fan base as a whole do you think there would be widespread acceptance of a fa'afafine wrestler in the near future?
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SuperHunBastard1690 posted:With the number of Samoans wrestlers and the more progressive view of the fan base as a whole do you think there would be widespread acceptance of a fa'afafine wrestler in the near future? Were Chyna and Nicole Bass part Samoan?
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flashy_mcflash posted:They tried the same thing with Juvi, and TNA with Siaki. Now there's a King of Trios team - The Fake Rocks/Rockabees. The Nation Of Imitation
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TOMORROW NIGHT AT 8 PM IS THE NIGHT RANGERS VS CANADIENS GAME 5! But it is also another night WCW BASH AT THE BEACH 1997! The Worm. Rod the Bod. Rodzilla. Michael Jordan's Latest Victim. DENNIS RODMAN STEPS INTO A WCW RING! Rodman and Hogan take on Best Friends Lex Luger and the Giant in your main event! In the semi main event, the worst wrestler in the world takes on the best ever: RODDY PIPER VS RIC FLAIR! (Dave Meltzer gave this THREE STARS, so either Flair is a miracle worker in 97 or Meltzer is an insane man) for the WCW Cruiserweight title... CHRIS JERICHO DEFENDS AGAINST ULTIMO DRAGON! The Steiners take on Chono and Muta Juvi, Hector Garza and Lizmark Jr face La Parka, Psychosis and Villano IV Chris Benoit vs THE TASKMASTER in a RETIREMENT match. JEFF Jarrett vs Mongo for Jeff's US title! Scott Hall and Randy "What Up Mach" Macho Man Savage vs DDP and a Mystery Partner and in your real main event MORTIS AND WRATH VS THE CAT AND GLACIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It all goes down at 8 PM, except for Cowboy Who? which goes down at 7:30! and I have yet another birthday present for Coconono!!!! http://www.psp-tv.com/r/BadMoviesWorseWrestling
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