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goatface posted:Didn't they have something dumb like a $1000 dollar "donation" tier that got you in immediately so you could bag the best spot for your guild house? Has there been any unofficially leaked details regarding Pathfinder Unchained, since it's initial announcement? I could see myself playing again if these changes are cool.
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Father Wendigo posted:Speaking of Clusterfucks, what's up with Pathfinder Online? I haven't heard anything about that in a while now. Decided to have a look. They are selling permanent early adopter bonusses and people started playing earlier this month. The Twitter hashtag is significantly deader than that for City of Heroes which closed down two years ago (RIP).
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neonchameleon posted:Decided to have a look. They are selling permanent early adopter bonusses and people started playing earlier this month. The Twitter hashtag is significantly deader than that for City of Heroes which closed down two years ago (RIP). So I just looked at that link, and something caught my eye. quote:Currently we don't have a plan to separate Test Server accounts from Live accounts. That means that any perks that are bound to your account will be consumed for both servers when used on one server. You could use your Destiny's Twin perk on the Test Server, and it would be unavailable thereafter on the Live Server. That sounds like an excellent way to keep people from testing things on the test server. 
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Enzer posted:Has anyone heard any news concerning the third book to Throne of Night? Thinking of running it as our group is almost done with Way of the Wicked, but I haven't heard an update about it since last September. Every book in Way of the Wicked was months behind schedule so this isn't a shock.
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obeyasia posted:Has there been any unofficially leaked details regarding Pathfinder Unchained, since it's initial announcement? I could see myself playing again if these changes are cool. I've been skimming through the discussion thread on Paizo's site but it's short on details. I did note that PFU will not be publicly playtested.After the ACG, I fully expect the worst. neonchameleon posted:Decided to have a look. They are selling permanent early adopter bonusses and people started playing earlier this month. The Twitter hashtag is significantly deader than that for City of Heroes which closed down two years ago (RIP). The current product is apparently so dubious that even folks on ENWorld are calling bullshit. Selachian fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Jan 19, 2015 |
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Does anyone really expect unchained to be something more than half-assed/terrible houserules?
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Andrast posted:Does anyone really expect unchained to be something more than half-assed/terrible houserules? I could see it offering essentially a free archtype to rogue and monk. Beyond that I expect nothing from it.
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Someone on the Paizo boards posted this video of a Gen Con panel (link goes to the point where they start discussing Unchained). Summary, also ripped off from the Paizo boards: quote:+2 Skill Points for everyone!
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quote:We are also thinking about ways to address the holes some of you have discovered in the terrain. They are an artifact of Grome, the tool we use to generate the huge landscape of the Crusader Road. There is an interaction between hills and roads that sometimes causes a point to be displaced from the terrain near road bends in hills, causing a pit. The team is investigating several short term and long term ways to address these pits. ahahaha.
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Libertad! posted:I haven't been keeping close track, but there's this huge drama around the Kickstarter (which reached its goal around mid-2012). Ugh that is miserable. As someone pointed out, WotW was behind on releases, but we started when the majority of the books were already out. If Throne of Night had three books out we'd be more comfortable starting it. Does anyone have any suggestions for any campaigns that involves kingdom building (something the players are all interested in) that isn't Kingmaker?
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Enzer posted:Does anyone have any suggestions for any campaigns that involves kingdom building (something the players are all interested in) that isn't Kingmaker? Run a custom campaign using the Kingmaker rules (or the Ultimate Campaign rules, for that matter)? I don't think anyone has put out a true sandbox kingdom building campaign since Kingmaker. Sandbox campaigns are actually easier to run in some ways than normal ones because in a lot of cases you can just wing it. They're also harder in other ways (and Kingmaker is an example of this because the plot thread is mostly nonexistent between modules, and that can be a real problem in sandboxes).
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Zurai posted:Run a custom campaign using the Kingmaker rules (or the Ultimate Campaign rules, for that matter)? I don't think anyone has put out a true sandbox kingdom building campaign since Kingmaker. Sandbox campaigns are actually easier to run in some ways than normal ones because in a lot of cases you can just wing it. They're also harder in other ways (and Kingmaker is an example of this because the plot thread is mostly nonexistent between modules, and that can be a real problem in sandboxes). The Ultimate Campaign rules for hex exploration and kingdom building are fantastic, and it doesn't take a whole lot of effort to get a small map up with a load of interesting encounters and features. If you want to get down to the nitty-gritty of each Thorp's economy you can do that, or you can hand-wave most of it and still have a decent map your players can stomp through and feel important/powerful. There are a few tools out there that will help you draw up the actual hex maps, and it's pretty easy to get up and running. As something of a shameless plug, the second adventure module my partners and I are planning to release in May will feature a hex-exploration section using the Ultimate Campaign rules, and the PCs can earn titles and land in a small frontier town to make use of the downtime rules. We don't go full-on Kingmaker with it, but there's a lot of exploration to be done, interesting locations and side-quests, and the decisions the PCs make and the relationships with the NPCs in town and throughout the hex map affect the story in various ways. 
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Sorry if this isn't the right place to post stuff like this, but I've been working on a homebrew caster class for PF and I was hoping for some advice/pointers. Blue Mage. (Name in progress. Also considering Siphon Mage?) It's a Con based spellcaster with a very small spell list and an equally small spells per day that acts as a backup to their main ability; spell absorption. If an enemy casts, for example, Burning Hands at a Blue Mage, they can absorb a portion of the spells magic in to themselves. They take an amount of damage and then get a single cast of the spell at whatever caster level the original caster was at, unless it's higher then the Blue Mages own. Once a spell is "absorbed" in this manner, the Blue Mage has it on their spell list. It's rough right now but what do people think of the basic idea? HnK416 fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Jan 22, 2015 |
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Jan 22, 2015 02:44
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Spells need to disappear from the absorbed list after a certain period of time, like a week. Or there needs to be some other way to manage and limit it.
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zachol posted:Spells need to disappear from the absorbed list after a certain period of time, like a week. Or there needs to be some other way to manage and limit it. Second pool of Spells Known slots, gain new ones at level up, X times per level, replace a spell in a slot lower than max level, can use higher level slots to learn lower level spells with no other benefit.
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Tentatively if it were sorcerer spells known (total) and wizard spells per day that... might be okay? Most of my doubts have to do with mixing divine and arcane spell lists, which is obviously also the point. If you somehow limited it to "only offensive spells (and not buffs)" then things get a lot more palatable, but that would be tricky to define.
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zachol posted:Tentatively if it were sorcerer spells known (total) and wizard spells per day that... might be okay? I should have put it in the description, but the intent is very much so for it only to be used for Arcane spells. As for the spells known, what I was picturing was something similar to how the Beguiler from 3.5 does its spells, but with the stipulation that the Blue Mage's spells known list is impressively small. Same goes for the spells per day. How I'm thinking of handling the absorbing is that they can only absorb and recast a limited times per day, but spells absorbed get add to the known list. It seems a little much but at the moment spells for a 1st level Blue Mage are 3 0 level and 0 1st level per day. The idea really is not for them to rely on native casting, but to use it as a backup.
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If it's arcane only, that makes it a lot easier. Maybe restrict it to spells that allow a save or SR, require they save/resist a spell before absorbing it, give them SR starting at like 5th level, have absorbed spells stick residually for a week, allow a certain number of spells per level (like, 1 or 2) to be incorporated into their permanent repertoire, and say they can also incorporate arcane spells by reading off a scroll to just make character creation after first level less of a pain and to head off nonsense like trying to get a wizard PC or NPC to cast on you.
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zachol posted:If it's arcane only, that makes it a lot easier. Good ideas. The other big idea that I've been toying with for why the class can do all of it is that instead of learning spells like a Wizard or having inherent abilities like a Sorcerer, they can simple manipulate magic energy. They get hit by a spell, pull the energy in to themselves and then re-purpose it, but in order to do this it takes a certain toll on the body, which is the reason I have Con as their casting stat. To go along with that, I had an idea of giving them a small-ish point pool and selection of ways they can use it, though adding that might be too much if they have the spell absorbing and traditional spellcasting, no matter how limited those are.
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Ok so I'm running a PFS scenario on Monday, called Haunting of Hinojai. The combat is hard, and it uses haunts that range from minorly annoying to save or die, in both 5-6 and 8-9 tiers. Levels 5-6 has DC16 Phantasmal Killer, levels 8-9 has CL9, DC20 Finger of Death. Save or die trap is lame in general. Levels 8-9 can deal with it, but in levels 5-6 it's super lame. No one can raise dead and buying a resurrection is really expensive for that level. Not to mention that they'd have to grab the body if someone dies, then take them to a temple or whatever, resurrect them, then everyone goes back to the spooky mansion. I want to replace Phantasmal Killer with something else, and was thinking of something like DC16 fort, or be knocked unconscious to -8HP for some sense of urgency, and hit with a DC17 to remove Bestow Curse as if it were cast by the boss. I want the trap to hurt, but just loving someone in a way that they can't deal with is stupid and a waste of everybody's time. But just removing the trap is also sorta boring, just wanted to make sure the sub wasn't too harsh. If there's no one who can raise dead in high tier, I'd do something similar. I don't think I'm allowed to do this by PFS rules but I sorta don't care. edits sugar free jazz fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Jan 24, 2015 |
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sugar free jazz posted:Levels 8-9 can deal with it, but in levels 5-6 it's super lame. No one can raise dead and buying a resurrection is really expensive for that level.
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Well, it's 5,450gp or 16 prestige for raise dead, which is a lot for 5-6, and the spooky mansion this is happening in is in a rural area with the nearest town having a population of 350, and spellcasting of 4th level, so no raise dead. I could cough and say there's a traveling cleric or whatever going through town or something, but that's still a whole assload of resources for a 5-6, and by the time they got back all of the haunts would have reset. Everyone could pitch in and soften the blow a bit, but I can't count on that happening. It's actual PFS, I just personally am willing to bend the rules when the rules are stupid, like someone wasting their whole night or spending half their cash because whoops you rolled a 10 and have a fort save of 5, sorry! FWIW a lot of the comments about the scenario mention that it's hard, and I let everyone know it's hard before hand. The idea of Scooby Doo But You might Die is hilarious to me though, which is why I picked it. If I'm off base about stuff let me know, I've only GMed 5 scenarios.
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PFS really needs a rule where if you die during an adventure, that adventure just doesn't count as a whole (as if you hadn't attended the session). As it stands, the record-keeping rules feel like they'll just promote bad air with the GM who "has their hands tied" or whatever.
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I'm running a Kingmaker game and I just finished the first book. Neither me, nor anyone else in the group has any previous experience with kingdom building, the system, and how it works. What's the easiest way to pick this system up and be able to roll with it?
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Paizo came out with an entire book devoted to downtime activity, kingdom building, NPC relationships, and other "supplemental game systems" to enhance normal adventures, called Ultimate Campaign. It's hands-down one of the best books they've ever made, and it has decently designed systems for all sorts of things. Our groups were using houserules and old, third-party stuff from the 3.5-era for some of the systems anyway, and the new book codified everything really well. I really recommend buying the book, but the rules are also on the d20pfsrd. Here are the Kingdom Rules, and here are the broader Downtime Rules. The rules get very specific and detailed, but you can pretty much always just wave your GM wand over anything you don't want to bother learning or dealing with. If your players really like the idea of running a business, let them roll things out and roleplay being a business owner. Use the random events table to see what happens to their business. Maybe a customer badmouths you and you lose money. Maybe there's a fire! If they just want a bakery as a business to make money, roll XdY for the gold generated and move on. Kingmaker is a fun adventure because your players can really carve out part of the map and develop it themselves, however they want. Depending on how much detail you and your players want in the downtime, and how much time you're all willing to put in, the adventure can be pretty much as sandboxy as you like. I'm not entirely sure what the easiest way to pick the whole system out would be, but I would encourage you to read the rules for kingdom building (NOT the Kingmaker adventure content!) with your players and decide as a group how much detail/time the kingdom building parts would be. Explain the sort of things they could do, and try to gauge how interested they seem in all of it, and then just roll with it.
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Does anyone have any advice for using the semi newly released Maximum xcrawl rules? i've heard wonderful things and am kinda stumped as to how to switch my fairly standard fantasy guys over to something, slightly more modern with a less serious twist. (although they never have a problem ruining any serious moment they ask me to include so being terrible adventuring celebrities should be right up their ally.)
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Don't know, since I haven't seen them- the previous X-Crawl rules had the flaw of "everything of value in the book is contained within the elevator pitch" and the previews do absolutely nothing to dispel that notion.
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With less threadshitting: basically ask them if they want to play and then roll with it. Don't plan too far ahead aside from maybe creating some NPC foils and having a general idea of what sort of dungeon you'd like to throw at them next. If they grow bored or restless then try to work with them to engage them. Throw them into dungeons and then glam poo poo up.
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I don't play PFS, but this news is something of an admission of system bloat: http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lh0h?Introducing-the-Core-Campaign
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Paolomania posted:I don't play PFS, but this news is something of an admission of system bloat: http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lh0h?Introducing-the-Core-Campaign Wow, this is a fantastic way to remove literally everything interesting and original that Pathfinder ever invented. LightWarden posted:Don't know, since I haven't seen them- the previous X-Crawl rules had the flaw of "everything of value in the book is contained within the elevator pitch" and the previews do absolutely nothing to dispel that notion. The "World" preview starts off with what's literally and explicitly a quote some random dude from ENWorld.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Who, who on earth is going "Pathfinder's fun, but can you strip away all the interesting things you added over time to make it different than just 3.5 repackaged as a reactionary cash grab to fight WotC?!"
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Who, who on earth is going "Pathfinder's fun, but can you strip away all the interesting things you added over time to make it different than just 3.5 repackaged as a reactionary cash grab to fight WotC?!" I mean, the main advantage that I can see is that it drops the barrier-to-entry for PFS for new players, while giving people that have played PFS forever an incentive to play with said new players, using the same limited set of books. Which, in theory, solves a problem specific to PFS, because theoretically, you need to actually own a bunch of books and can't just use the SRD. Buuuuuuuuuuuuut PFS is kind of a dumb shitshow of some of the worst sorts of turbonerds anyway, so I don't know how much it really helps matters.
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Froghammer posted:"Core is perfectly balanced, the only broken things come from stuff outside the Player's Handbook" has been a thing in every system ever. Except The Un-System, where core was the most unbalanced piece of poo poo. You know the one.
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Transient People posted:Except The Un-System, where core was the most unbalanced piece of poo poo. You know the one. Pathfinder?
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