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Godzilla07
Oct 4, 2008

After watching the first minute of this video that kept showing up in my YouTube recs, I knew it belonged here

https://youtu.be/hqz4SQCKv_o

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qirex
Feb 15, 2001

Yeah anything having to do with The Absolute Sound is uncut audiophile bullshit, but in a very wordy and professional way.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Godzilla07 posted:

After watching the first minute of this video that kept showing up in my YouTube recs, I knew it belonged here

https://youtu.be/hqz4SQCKv_o

you can make a nice enough living doing this bullshit dog & pony show

they all oughta be ashamed of themselves

TheMadMilkman
Dec 10, 2007

I had some brief interactions with Fremer at RMAF, and I can’t tell you how much those experiences have made me despise him.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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TheMadMilkman posted:

I had some brief interactions with Fremer at RMAF, and I can’t tell you how much those experiences have made me despise him.

its incredible just how small the audiophile circle is

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

TheMadMilkman posted:

I had some brief interactions with Fremer at RMAF, and I can’t tell you how much those experiences have made me despise him.

Share with the class!

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004

I've tried out 360 audio on Tidal with my Sony wf-1000xm4 headphones and... it's not great is it? Sounds kinda thin and lifeless? The only track that works so far is Space Oddity, they kicked that up a notch. Atmos sounds really good to me (sometimes).

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

Multichannel music is amazing when it's mixed perfectly and I'd imagine the same is true for spatial stuff but IMO it will remain niche forever.

Also some guy on AVS asked for DAC recommendations and after everyone posted about RME, Topping, Benchmark, Denafrips, etc. and had the usual thing where people claim they can hear the difference between Sabre and AKM dude says he wants to try this:

$6600

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe
for $6600 I would REALLY want those vacuum tubes to be perfectly perpendicular.

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

LRADIKAL posted:

for $6600 I would REALLY want those vacuum tubes to be perfectly perpendicular.

At least they all tilt at the same angle :shrug:

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


That doesn't even fit the primary point of tube amps which is to look cool.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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LRADIKAL posted:

for $6600 I would REALLY want those vacuum tubes to be perfectly perpendicular.

and then very possibly end up sounding worse than a pair of $300 JBL 305p

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
Someone make an audiophile tube amp that supports Hue bulbs.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
I’d actually love to see hifi NuTube gear, if we’re being honest. Just as a hobbyist collector scum type of guy

AFAIK Nelson Pass made a couple of DIY kits around NuTube that got buried in the internet but nothing else ever materialized and I think they only get used in a handful of guitar amps and like a KORG keyboard or two

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Mozi posted:

Someone make an audiophile tube amp that supports Hue bulbs.

I assume you mean where you just stick the bulb in where the tube would normally go and have the actual amp be all digital? Because yeah, that could work. You could even do bespoke bulbs that only got signal from the amp and rig it to light up with relative volume.

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013
I did a search and I don’t think this thread has had as chance to admire the pure strain intensity of Audiophile.Rocks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnrtmP-AsBg

From the Bad With Money thread.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

doingitwrong posted:

I did a search and I don’t think this thread has had as chance to admire the pure strain intensity of Audiophile.Rocks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnrtmP-AsBg

From the Bad With Money thread.

Have we really not discussed audiophile rocks? best part of those is the unshielded lengths

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006
time is a flat circle

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
my favorite audiophile rock

Feels Villeneuve posted:

This is from 2016 but I just found it today.

it's the world's tiniest magic acoustic rock, you put it on your cartridge, it's so cute :3:


Palladium
May 8, 2012

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doingitwrong posted:

I did a search and I don’t think this thread has had as chance to admire the pure strain intensity of Audiophile.Rocks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnrtmP-AsBg

From the Bad With Money thread.



lmfao i spend less on my entire audio systems than the first two

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Palladium posted:



lmfao i spend less on my entire audio systems than the first two

Trap fukken sprung, audiophile scum!

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


man my X wife was into making organite and other woo poo poo.. she shoulda been making it for audiophiles instead of trying to clear up your chi or whatevershit it was intended to do.

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

Someone is buying mqa, hopefully for parts. I hope it's not Tidal since them dropping it would be their last big customer.

quote:

MQA Ltd, the company behind the MQA digital music technology, is going into administration.

We don't have many details at the moment, and it's uncertain if the firm's partnership with Tidal – which uses MQA technology to enable its 'hi-res' audio streams – will be affected. But we do know that MQA Ltd is seeking a buyer and has undergone a restructuring process.

The full statement from MQA reads as follows:

"Following the recent positive reception to MQA’s latest technology (SCL6), there has been increased international interest in buying MQA Ltd. At the same time, MQA’s main financial backer is seeking an exit. In order to be in the best position to pursue market opportunities and expedite this process, the company has undergone a restructuring initiative, which includes entering into administration and is comparable to Chapter 11 in the US.

"During this process, MQA continues to trade as usual alongside its partners.

"We won't be commenting further while negotiations take place."

This is a breaking news story, we'll bring you more details as they emerge.

Mederlock
Jun 23, 2012

You won't recognize Canada when I'm through with it
Grimey Drawer
MQA is provably snake oil BS anyways. A bunch of people have run tests on it.

steckles
Jan 14, 2006

Mederlock posted:

MQA is provably snake oil BS anyways. A bunch of people have run tests on it.
Hey now, it would make some LEDs on expensive DACs light up. How will anybody know that they're listening to an Authenticated TRUE and HONEST Studio Master™ any more???

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


steckles posted:

Hey now, it would make some LEDs on expensive DACs light up. How will anybody know that they're listening to an Authenticated TRUE and HONEST Studio Master™ any more???

It says Apple Digital Master in the app.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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Mederlock posted:

MQA is provably snake oil BS anyways. A bunch of people have run tests on it.

I can totally hear that difference on my $7000 dynaudio bookshelf that has the most cheapass crossover cabling

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

The goldensound guy found that MQA compression does produce extra distortion in the audible band, and it gets worse the more “unfolds” you do. So the more invested in the format you are the worse it sounds. He also found that the magic blue light flag is in the file header and you can feed it low bitrate stuff and the light will still come on.

https://youtu.be/pRjsu9-Vznc

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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qirex posted:

The goldensound guy found that MQA compression does produce extra distortion in the audible band, and it gets worse the more “unfolds” you do. So the more invested in the format you are the worse it sounds. He also found that the magic blue light flag is in the file header and you can feed it low bitrate stuff and the light will still come on.

https://youtu.be/pRjsu9-Vznc

How could our new audio codec with the groundbreaking feature of introducing intermodulation distortion from ultrasonics to the audible band, be not successful in the huge market of white dying "I can't hear 10KHz anymore" audiophile boomers.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


LOL That company still existed?

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
Absolutely nothing in Stereophile or TAS about MQA going bankrupt. Lol

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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Feels Villeneuve posted:

Absolutely nothing in Stereophile or TAS about MQA going bankrupt. Lol

they know they are next

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

The audience that reads things like TAS is a segment of the market that is literally dying. Young people are getting into audio and it’s via headphones and powered speakers and little $100 DACs but it’s still much easier to sell one million dollar thing to the right sucker than a million two dollar ones.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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qirex posted:

The audience that reads things like TAS is a segment of the market that is literally dying. Young people are getting into audio and it’s via headphones and powered speakers and little $100 DACs but it’s still much easier to sell one million dollar thing to the right sucker than a million two dollar ones.

iIMO the only reason they are still standing is because almost all the megabuck poo poo they can access for free exist because they only cost comparative pennies to actually make

these guys are still pretending making a 2-way bookshelf and place them on a stand in A.D. 2023 is some unsolved rocket science

Palladium fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Apr 8, 2023

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


It's like Prima Cinema and Red Carpet. Those delux streaming services for the filthy rich and powerful enabling them to get current theatrical releases streamed to their special secrety sauce boxes are gonna die out completely.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

qirex posted:

The audience that reads things like TAS is a segment of the market that is literally dying. Young people are getting into audio and it’s via headphones and powered speakers and little $100 DACs but it’s still much easier to sell one million dollar thing to the right sucker than a million two dollar ones.

You kind of see this with a ton of the "legacy" audio companies now pushing stuff like soundbars and powered stereo speakers. I imagine it's easier these days to sell people getting into audio on like, a Rega P1 and a JBL soundbar than some setup involving an amp/receiver.

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

Feels Villeneuve posted:

You kind of see this with a ton of the "legacy" audio companies now pushing stuff like soundbars and powered stereo speakers. I imagine it's easier these days to sell people getting into audio on like, a Rega P1 and a JBL soundbar than some setup involving an amp/receiver.

Yeah there's the ones trying to get ahead of it, Harman [owned by Samsung] has enough resources and to be able to make halo gear like Revel, JBL Pro, Arcam, Mark Levinson, etc. and also a $99 soundbar or $40 bluetooth headphones. There's smaller companies like Focal that made a hard and successful pivot into high end headphones or Lenbrook/NAD/Bluesound that bet the farm on streaming. KEF is a very design focused company that makes sure to still always a decent entry level offering. What I like best about a/v now is startups making really high quality niche stuff like HDFury or miniDSP. My Qudelix 5k is maybe the best $100 I've ever spent on audio, it's a high quality DAC and headphone amp with bluetooth and parametric EQ the size of a 9V battery and it both sounds great and measurably outperforms a bunch of 30lb multikilobuck stand alone gear and it's made by a tiny company in S Korea.

Most of the true boutique high end companies are just waiting to die while they complain about the kids today not wanting to spend 5 grand on a tonearm. I think part of it is that they also depended on people eventually upgrading their way into big boy systems without keeping an eye on the low/middle end of the market and just assuming that would stay healthy.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
There's also that big group (Voxx) who own Klipsch, Onkyo and Pioneer's non-turntable stuff and Klipsch has gone hard into soundbars and powered speakers too, while still having the more "halo" stuff like the Klipschorn/La Scala line.

(apparently those guys also own Acoustic Research but as a zombie brand - all that's on their site is outdoor speakers and some rebranded IEMs)

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
Some "actual" MQA news


https://www.ecoustics.com/news/mqa-bankruptcy/

quote:

There have been a series of events in recent months that likely explain why MQA filed when it did.

First, MQA’s attempt to get the MQAir codec into the Bluetooth standard failed when the Bluetooth SIG did not add it to the latest release. MQA had certainly been hoping for that as it would have given them a leg up on other competing codecs as being in the standard would ensure broader compatibility than any of the current proprietary offerings (aptX, LDAC, LHDC, etc.).

Having failed in their attempt to do that, MQAir was left to compete on a more even footing with more established offerings and has a tougher road ahead

Speculation mainly being that MQA's Bluetooth codec was seen as possibly being a viable product but MQA itself was not (the funniest thing being them speculating that they renamed it "SCL6" to avoid association with MQA and make it more attractive to buyers)

Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Apr 8, 2023

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njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


MQA thinking they could become the mainstream wireless audio standard in a market that has Sony and Qualcomm in is hilarious.

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