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Nessus posted:Dio doesn't seem to want absolute control over everything like Dracula. If nothing else he probably knows about UV lamps, which would gently caress him up good. His Stand doesn't seem to be good for THAT at least. When he became a vampire in part 1 he went to a random village and turned everyone he could find into a vampire. His god complex started from minute one of being a vampire, too. Also:  Dio was always planning on controlling things. In part 3 he just is being more cautious. Taciturn Tactician fucked around with this message at 04:03 on May 31, 2015 |
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Dude just made a miscalculation that left him sleeping with the fishes for the better part of a century. That's a lot of time to do some mental inventory.
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May 31, 2015 04:09
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Quoted for new page cause this is the best loving thing.
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May 31, 2015 08:26
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Taciturn Tactician posted:When he became a vampire in part 1 he went to a random village and turned everyone he could find into a vampire. His god complex started from minute one of being a vampire, too. Also: poo poo, Dio's ambition existed when he was a little kid. His first reaction upon moving into the Joestar house was "OK, how can I freeze out this other kid and become the best son and control the inheritance?" Becoming a vampire only made it so he had the physical attributes to back up his god complex.
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May 31, 2015 09:48
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If you're as good looking as DIO, it's only natural to expect the world to owe you everything. And it does because he is the earth's most perfect child.
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May 31, 2015 12:02
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Aurain posted:If you're as good looking as DIO, it's only natural to expect the world to owe you everything. Kars might have had something to say about that.
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May 31, 2015 12:07
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Kars didn't even have a cool-rear end stand. 
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Aurain posted:Kars didn't even have a cool-rear end stand.
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May 31, 2015 14:53
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Kars and his Stand, Space Oddity.
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May 31, 2015 15:02
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Dio is still, technically, just food for Kars. He looks yummy, too.
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May 31, 2015 15:05
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PiedPiper posted:Dio is still, technically, just food for Kars. It'd be interesting to see how Kars dealt with stand users. On the one hand, he's the ultimate life form. On the other hand, it's extremely difficult to defend yourself or attack effectively against something that you can't see, hear, touch, or smell kicking the poo poo out of you. I mean obviously he'd pretty effortlessly kill any of the less direct combat stand users like Mariah or Devo, but what about someone with a super powerful direct combat stand like Jotaro? Would Alessi's power work on Kars? What would it even do to him? Kanos fucked around with this message at 16:18 on May 31, 2015 |
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May 31, 2015 16:15
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I'm sure if he hadn't gotten blasted into space, he could have acquired his own. He is the ultimate lifeform after all, and besides, there are... ways of developing a stand in the jojo universe.
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May 31, 2015 16:20
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It would be pretty funny if Alessi's power made Kars younger and rewound his body to before he became the ultimate lifeform so he just exploded in the sunlight.
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May 31, 2015 16:22
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The other problem Stand users would have is Kars being the ultimate life form. Araki took a left turn after part 2 and the power level of the series has leveled out. I'd imagine if he brought Kars back as an antagonist, it'd be fascinating to see how a stand user can deal with an immortal ultimate life form and vise versa.
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May 31, 2015 16:22
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I mean Kars isn't even dead floating out there in space. I doubt he would honestly have much trouble fighting someone like Jotaro since all Jotaro could really do is physically damage him. Something like Vanilla Ice's stand could pose more of a thread I think. EDIT: Whenever JoJo eventually ends, it should just be Kars crashing back down to earth and killing everything.
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May 31, 2015 16:31
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Jotaro could legit punch Kars right back into the loving stratosphere.
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PiedPiper posted:Dio is still, technically, just food for Kars. I do wonder how a fight between young Dio and a pillar man would go. Like Dio can freeze anyone that touches him so he might not be instantly killed, and his laser eye beams were pretty powerful the few times he used them. Also even though it might not happen, it would be cool if he ended up using those powers again against the Crusaders.
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Kanos posted:It'd be interesting to see how Kars dealt with stand users. On the one hand, he's the ultimate life form. On the other hand, it's extremely difficult to defend yourself or attack effectively against something that you can't see, hear, touch, or smell kicking the poo poo out of you. I would assume he'd just power through and maybe fire off some piraņa feathers at Jotaro. Or a man-eating squirrel. Kars can outrange any high-powered Stand, and ignore any long-ranged one. He'd be a real bitch to deal with.
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Beef Waifu posted:Jotaro could legit punch Kars right back into the loving stratosphere. Stratosphere's not good enough, but I'm sure Jotaro could figure a way to actually send Cars off the Earth's gravity. Sam Faust posted:I do wonder how a fight between young Dio and a pillar man would go. Like Dio can freeze anyone that touches him so he might not be instantly killed, and his laser eye beams were pretty powerful the few times he used them. Dio without a stand? The Pillar Men would wreck him. He's cunning enough that he could survive but it's not like he has any way of killing any of them that wouldn't also kill him.
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May 31, 2015 16:38
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Santana is Santana, Esidesi is useless, Wamuu fights too honourably and Dio would exploit that, Kars is crafty too but what happens when a man who thinks SEX = USELESS meets the sexiest man of all time? Something has to give.
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The Ultimate Being isn't so Ultimate against a Stand that just vomits emeralds at him that he can't even see from like a hundred feet away.
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Moltrey posted:The Ultimate Being isn't so Ultimate against a Stand that just vomits emeralds at him that he can't even see from like a hundred feet away. What would those even do though. Even if it did significant damage he would just grow new parts right? Aurain posted:Santana is Santana, Esidesi is useless, Wamuu fights too honourably and Dio would exploit that, Kars is crafty too but what happens when a man who thinks SEX = USELESS meets the sexiest man of all time? Something has to give.
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I mean being immortal doesn't mean you can't beat the dude, it just means he can't be killed.
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Re: Kakyoin: Cars could summon up some anklyosaurus armor anyway. And I doubt Hierophant Green could mind control someone who can shift his body however he wants. A stand that outright disintegrates poo poo at a rapid pace like Vanilla Ice's could really gently caress him up, though. Or maybe one of the D'Arbys could trick him into gambling.
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Moltrey posted:The Ultimate Being isn't so Ultimate against a Stand that just vomits emeralds at him that he can't even see from like a hundred feet away. Its not like an emerald splash would do much more than annoy him, Kars is basically invincible. The only thing that could truly kill him is some fuckery like Alessi turning him young and not so ultimate. Even Vanilla Ice could only send him to another dimension to float in nothingness, which isn't much different than where he actually ended up.
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Beef Waifu posted:I mean being immortal doesn't mean you can't beat the dude, it just means he can't be killed. That always sort of bugged me in Dragon Ball. Frieza/Vegeta want to wish for immortality, but that doesn't mean that they can't be blown into tiny chunks but have their body survive that (in the sense that all of the cells and such are still alive). They'd be better off wishing to be indestructible. e: V They still wish for that during an asswhooping each on Namek though. Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 17:00 on May 31, 2015 |
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Aurain posted:That always sort of bugged me in Dragon Ball. Frieza/Vegeta want to wish for immortality, but that doesn't mean that they can't be blown into tiny chunks but have their body survive that. They'd be better off wishing to be indestructible. They were so arrogant that they never even considered the idea of someone coming along who was that much stronger than them
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Senor Candle posted:What would those even do though. Even if it did significant damage he would just grow new parts right? Basically what I'm saying the is Eyes of Heaven tag battle between Jotaro/Kakyoin and Kars/Whammu is gonna be piss easy Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 17:06 on May 31, 2015 |
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Aurain posted:That always sort of bugged me in Dragon Ball. Frieza/Vegeta want to wish for immortality, but that doesn't mean that they can't be blown into tiny chunks but have their body survive that (in the sense that all of the cells and such are still alive). They'd be better off wishing to be indestructible. If that's your standard of immortality then Frieza was immortal Trunks only actually killed him when he disintegrated him with a KI blast
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Moltrey posted:Weaken his body enough so Jotaro could punch his rear end right back to space. Kars is handsome, but that's all he is. Just because he's immortal doesn't mean we can't kick his rear end. Screw playing as the Jotaro/Kakyoin combo in the demo of that game though. Kakyoin always decides to help you out and slows the gameplay to a crawl and just ugh, Eyes of Heaven. Yuck.
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Sam Faust posted:I do wonder how a fight between young Dio and a pillar man would go. Like Dio can freeze anyone that touches him so he might not be instantly killed, and his laser eye beams were pretty powerful the few times he used them. Contact with a PillarMan is pretty much certain absorption for a vampire.
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Aurain posted:Screw playing as the Jotaro/Kakyoin combo in the demo of that game though. Kakyoin always decides to help you out and slows the gameplay to a crawl and just ugh, Eyes of Heaven. Yuck.
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eyes of heaven will let me play as speedwagon so i'm going to say it's better than the last one already
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Soulcleaver posted:Re: Kakyoin: Cars could summon up some anklyosaurus armor anyway. And I doubt Hierophant Green could mind control someone who can shift his body however he wants. I don't think the D'Arby brothers could really do much against Kars, since both times, they got the Crusaders to bet because they had leverage on them. Jotaro could have just murdered them, if they didn't have the soul of their friend, and Kars would have no such qualms if things started looking bad.
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Cars kind of genocided his own species so I don't think there's much in the way of leverage they could get for him. The only one they could trick would be Wham and his ~noble warrior's spirit~.
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Speaking of dickishness, I love how Dio gives this whole impassioned speech to Polnareff about how serving him will give him the peace of mind he wants. And then after that, he kills Nukesaku, a guy who's serving him. Never change, Dio.
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I love how poo poo got so real, Joseph forgot to be comical about legging it. I don't think he's ever felt that kind of fear even with Kars. DIO's ZA WARUDO is so loving terrifying if you have no idea what it is. At least with Kars, he kinda knew what to expect. With DIO, it's straight up "If you're within his reach, you're automatically dead. And you don't know why".
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Speaking of dickishness, I love how Dio gives this whole impassioned speech to Polnareff about how serving him will give him the peace of mind he wants. Well with the kind of religious servitude DIO asks for you have 「ＰＥＡＣＥ ＯＦ ＭＩＮＤ」 even in death. See Vanilla Ice for an example; the only time he lost his 「ＰＥＡＣＥ ＯＦ ＭＩＮＤ」 was when Iggy forced him to destroy the image of DIO.
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Broseph Brostar posted:Its not like an emerald splash would do much more than annoy him, Kars is basically invincible. The only thing that could truly kill him is some fuckery like Alessi turning him young and not so ultimate. Even Vanilla Ice could only send him to another dimension to float in nothingness, which isn't much different than where he actually ended up. I feel like we're all forgetting that Kars was dumb. He got tricked into a volcano. He got tricked into falling down a hole. He got tricked into getting shot into space. If nothing else then the Crusaders would probably trick him into one-shotting himself. And also pee on him. And make fun of his useless genitalia. And this is all discarding the fact that he has limited non-psychic mass.
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Aurain posted:That always sort of bugged me in Dragon Ball. Frieza/Vegeta want to wish for immortality, but that doesn't mean that they can't be blown into tiny chunks but have their body survive that (in the sense that all of the cells and such are still alive). They'd be better off wishing to be indestructible. Not to mention what happens when someone actually gets their immortality.
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