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Linx posted:I could use some advice on upgrading my PSU - I've realised that my current one is getting on for almost 8 years old, it's always been faithful and I've never had a reason to doubt it, but I'd rather it didn't die and tank the rest of my components. Corsair's RMx series is a thread favorite and it has a 10 year warranty. Amazon UK has the 550W for ~85GBP. The other we recommend is the EVGA G2 or G3 (the G3 is newer and takes up less space), either of which have a 7 year warranty, I believe. All three are fully modular and 80 PLUS Gold, and are similarly priced.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Corsair's RMx series is a thread favorite and it has a 10 year warranty. Amazon UK has the 550W for ~85GBP. Thanks for this! The RMx was one of the models I was looking at, wanted to make sure I didn't get the "bad" one (CM series?). Do you think 550W is enough to run the hardware I have? I've always shot for 700W but I've never really thought about it
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Linx posted:Thanks for this! The RMx was one of the models I was looking at, wanted to make sure I didn't get the "bad" one (CM series?). When in doubt, buy up to the limit you're willing to comfortably spend. 650W can't be appreciably more expensive, and PSUs do lose efficiency over time. (550W will be fine, though)
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BIG HEADLINE posted:When in doubt, buy up to the limit you're willing to comfortably spend. 650W can't be appreciably more expensive, and PSUs do lose efficiency over time. BIG HEADLINE posted:When in doubt, buy up to the limit you're willing to comfortably spend. 650W can't be appreciably more expensive, and PSUs do lose efficiency over time. The 650 was only £4 more so I figured it couldn't hurt, thanks again!
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Newegg has a Power Supply calculator, I usually use that and then add 50-100 watts over what it says I need.
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This is a typical efficiency curve: NOTE THE TRUNCATED Y AXIS Now whilst there isn't a great difference in actual performance, leading to only small losses and gains in your electricity $/£, at a point where it's dipping after it's peak it is effectively struggling to operate as well as it can. Running a PSU in that region is going to make it more likely you have unclean delivery of power, lifespan, and more heat. It'll also be noisier. Now all the above is marginal, but when an extra 150w will often be $10, it's usually good to buy into it unless doing so would make you have more than double the capacity or something. 50-75% capacity under peak load is pretty nice and there's little to be gained in trying to get one "just large enough". Also several GPU generations in the past have gotten performance over the previous one by massively increasing power consumed, so you'd be more likely to be pushing a PSU too hard if an upgrade adds 50w or something.
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What country are you in? - Canada What are you using the system for? - painting/illustration and some gaming, maybe some streaming and recording of both illustrating and games. Budget - 818.86 in canadian amazon gift credit(596.45 usd) I cannot suppliment this amount with real cash atm. Software - photoshop and clipstudio mainly, other graphic programs some of the time. Gaming/monitors - currently 2 1080p monitors, one of which is a wacom cintiq, the other I believe is 60hz. I would like my games to run fast with the shiniest graphics, generally 60 fps, but as long as it's playable and pretty Im happy. I can make sacrifices. cpu - ryzen 5 1400 https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06XKWT8J4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A1HU0UETW2PFPN&psc=1 $219.99 cooler - stock motherboard - MSI B350M GAMING PRO https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06X3Y7KB5/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1 $106.99 memory - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB Single DDR4 2400 https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0198QDLXO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1 $67 (I plan on adding another 8 gb in the very near future) storage - a new samsung 256 evo I already have and my current storage harddrive. videocard - MSI RX 570 https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06Y144RLK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 $239.99 case - Rosewill Micro ATX Mini Tower https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00ZPWOA6I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1 $29.99 psu - EVGA 500 W1, 80+ WHITE 500W https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00H33SFJU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1 $53.99 total price with shipping and tax comes out to 27 cents under my budget. Alternatively I can swap out the cpu and motherboard for INTEL® PENTIUM® Processor G4560 https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01NCE8T92/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1HU0UETW2PFPN $ 84.99 Gigabyte LGA1151 Intel B250 Micro ATX https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01N2WG23X/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB $ 101.99 which leaves me with 158.68 more to play with. The cheapest i5 puts it over-budget and the cheapest i3 is almost 70 dollars more than the pentium which doesnt seem worth it. So my question what is better here in the long run? Both would meet my needs, but I wouldnt mind the ability to upgrade rather than buy a whole new system in the future. Also I guess I should ask if any of the other parts are no go, or if the gpu is overkill. Thoughts?
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Speaking of PSUs, for those in the US, Newegg has the 650W G3 for $69.99 after rebate for the next two days: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...em-_-17-438-094 And so is the RMx 550W: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...em-_-17-139-144 Reminder that the G3 is warrantied for seven years to the RMx's ten. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 08:27 on May 15, 2017 |
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Macksy posted:lotsa words That's a really tight budget to do what you want from it - if you would have more cash on hand in the future, going for the pentium and upgrading the CPU later would be better. If your budget isn't going to realistically get much higher, build around the Ryzen 5 as the pentium will struggle with all the video. Khablam fucked around with this message at 12:34 on May 15, 2017 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Don't use the Corsair CXM with that equipment. The Corsair RMx 550W and EVGA G2 and/or G3 are all within a few quid of each other, and the RMx 550W comes with a ten year warranty. All three are also fully-modular, not semi. Thank you very much, went for most of it with your changes. Waiting till next pay for the 1080. Are there any good cases including fans that people can recommend for ~£50?
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I've been using an old 6670 since selling my 1070 off and I'd like move back up to something that doesn't struggle to play even old games when I feel like it. I haven't been playing anything much so looking at very cheap GPUs. I got just over $50 in Amazon credit so this RX 460 comes out to $35. https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Rad...ords=rx+460+2gb Thoughts? I know literally anything in the last 4 years would be better.
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it's okay for a "i need to render anything the least bit strenuous" card, while not efficient price/performance wise it is the cheapest card that will play everything without looking at the used market
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OhFunny posted:I've been using an old 6670 since selling my 1070 off and I'd like move back up to something that doesn't struggle to play even old games when I feel like it. I haven't been playing anything much so looking at very cheap GPUs. It's very low end, but it's ok. The 4Gb is worth the $10 if you want to go near newer games.
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Olewithmilk posted:Thank you very much, went for most of it with your changes. Waiting till next pay for the 1080. If you're a Prime member (bear in mind you can do a trial membership free for 30 days >.>): https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Mobile-Phone-Cases-Covers/Corsair-9011017-Carbide-Windowed-Tower-Performance-Computer/B008B6ONXA If not: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CC-9011105-WW-Windowed-Mid-Tower-Performance/dp/B01M35FI12 I'm just assuming you're looking for standard ATX. I'm sure there are other cases out there, I've just always found Corsair's easy to work with. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 10:26 on May 16, 2017 |
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The 270r is the newer case with some of the better "mod cons" - there's a basement at the bottom to hide the PSU under and mount an SSD onto, and it doesn't have the almost always redundant drive cage, opting instead for the rear mounting. If the price difference isn't too great it is the nicer of the two.
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Yeah, agreed on the 270R. The 300R is nice and I just built in it 3 years ago, but the 270R looks much nicer. just a note, the 270R looks to be a mini ATX case that can also support full ATX boards. It's shorter than the 300R by a few inches, so it may be a little tighter to work with than the 300R assuming you stay with the full ATX mainboard. stump collector fucked around with this message at 15:21 on May 16, 2017 |
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Someone generated this list for me about a year ago. First time budget builder doing light gaming and some basic GIS work. Anything major changed in the last year? PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel - Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.00 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock - B150M Pro4V Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory Storage: Sandisk - X400 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($106.95 @ Amazon) Case: Cooler Master - N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($48.47 @ Amazon) Power Supply: EVGA - 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply Total: $343.42 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-16 11:52 EDT-0400
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I recently bought a Zotac 1080Ti AMP Extreme, but it can't fit in my case (a BitFenix Neos), so I'm looking for a new case that can fit extra long graphics cards. Right now I'm looking at a BitFenix Nova and that might do the trick, but if there are other cases that can help me out (and if they're cheap too), that would be great.
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Lackmaster posted:Someone generated this list for me about a year ago. First time budget builder doing light gaming and some basic GIS work. Anything major changed in the last year? Do you have a budget and already own a GPU? Junior Jr. posted:I recently bought a Zotac 1080Ti AMP Extreme, but it can't fit in my case (a BitFenix Neos), so I'm looking for a new case that can fit extra long graphics cards. There's a discussion a few posts up about a couple of decent options from Corsair. Both will look more "premium" than that very budget BitFenix if that is at all important to you. Otherwise, the specs seem to say it'll fit the 1080Ti. Khablam fucked around with this message at 19:47 on May 16, 2017 |
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Khablam posted:There's a discussion a few posts up about a couple of decent options from Corsair. Both will look more "premium" than that very budget BitFenix if that is at all important to you. Just checked out the 300R and hell yeah this looks good for me. Just bought it now, hopefully it works out.
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Lackmaster posted:Someone generated this list for me about a year ago. First time budget builder doing light gaming and some basic GIS work. Anything major changed in the last year?
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Also, go for a B250 board. Shouldn't be more than $5-10 extra.
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Not sure what GISing is, but if he's getting a 200 series mobo it might be worth dropping to a g4560 rather than the i5?
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Captain Hair posted:Not sure what GISing is, but if he's getting a 200 series mobo it might be worth dropping to a g4560 rather than the i5? Geographic Information System(s). It involves a lot of data crunching, and it'd probably be a good idea to stick with the i5 since cores > threads.
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stump collector posted:Yeah, agreed on the 270R. The 300R is nice and I just built in it 3 years ago, but the 270R looks much nicer. This is spot on, I have a 270R and a full ATX board. The little "basement" for the PSU makes it borderline impossible to plug things into the bottom of the board. I actually took out the mounting screws and pulled the board out to get those cables plugged in.
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What country are you in? USA What are you using the system for? Secondary computer, my main is a Mac and I just want to play the Gwent game and maybe some older games. I guess it would be a plus if it would be upgradeable for something like the new Dragon Age in a couple of years, but that's just a bonus. What's your budget? Would love to keep it under $600, and cheaper is better. I'll also be buying a monitor and all, and will probably try to get those cheaply as well. If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? Don't have one picked out yet. I'm a Mac user and I'm tired of borrowing my husband's laptop when I want to play the occasional PC game. I do most of my gaming on the PS4 and don't see myself switching, so I don't think I need anything too intensive. I haven't bought a PC in 15 years, so I don't know what I'm looking for, really. I'm... not confident about my ability to build something seeing as I can't even remember the last time I cracked a computer open, so recommendations for prebuilt computers are also welcome, or sites that would be good to check. Basically I want to know what I can get away with and run the game decently. Their recommendations are: Processor: Intel Core i3 6100 | AMD FX-6300 Memory: 4 GB RAM Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 | AMD Radeon R7 265
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squidtarts posted:What country are you in? USA A few steps outside your $600 price range, but: http://www.microcenter.com/product/474127/G221_Desktop_Computer If you've got a Micro Center nearby it might be worth it simply for easy carry-in service if necessary. Right now they don't seem to be selling them via their web store if you're not, but they do on occasion. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 01:49 on May 17, 2017 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:If you're a Prime member (bear in mind you can do a trial membership free for 30 days >.>): https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Mobile-Phone-Cases-Covers/Corsair-9011017-Carbide-Windowed-Tower-Performance-Computer/B008B6ONXA Cheers again, went with the 300R. They seem to be out of stock on Amazon's page but I noticed it is from scan.co.uk and it's still available there for the same price (or cheaper if you don't want next day delivery, I think). Here's the link if interested: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair-300r-black-mid-tower-gaming-case-side-window-usb-30-w-o-psu
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What is the Ncase M1 of micro-atx cases? A small footprint and total volume, but still large enough to hold 2 full size hard drives and a small form factor power supply.
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So im getting around to upgrading my 2500k to a 2700k I got from another goon. Im on an asus P8P67 (REV 3.1) that I bought along with the 2500k and havent done any bios updates on. Do I need to update the bios so that the 2700k is recognized by the mobo? I should probably update the bios anyways but I dont want to do any work I dont have to. Is there a list of supported CPUs for different bios versions? Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 05:24 on May 18, 2017 |
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My EVGA GTX 1080 Hybrid fan seems to be locked at 56% for some reason and I can't adjust it with MSI Afterburner. Am I missing something?
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Fauxtool posted:So im getting around to upgrading my 2500k to a 2700k I got from another goon. Im on an asus P8P67 (REV 3.1) that I bought along with the 2500k and havent done any bios updates on. https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8P67_REV_31/HelpDesk_CPU/
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Virtue posted:My EVGA GTX 1080 Hybrid fan seems to be locked at 56% for some reason and I can't adjust it with MSI Afterburner. Am I missing something? Settings --> Fan tab --> Check "Enable user defined software automatic fan control" Set the curve as applicable.
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Hey, goons. I really can't figure out a good place to ask this question. It doesn't deserve its own thread, I can't find an arcade cabinet retro games thread (there are some retro-games threads, but it doesn't look like the right place to ask this) and this is kinda sorta like building a PC? So, there isn't much to say. Basically, a fellow is offering me an almost-built arcade cabinet with the specs below for about $435 bucks and I'm wondering if 1) this is a good deal (looking on the Internet, I really can't find anything selling less than a thousand dollars, which makes this deal seem really good or really dubious) and 2) this system is powerful enough to do what I want it to do. The specs: 1.2 GHz 64-bit quad-core ARMv8 CPU802.11n Wireless LAN, Bluetooth 4.1 Bluetooth Low Energy 1 GB RAM. It also has four USB ports, ethernet, HDMI, and a 23 inch television inside the thing. It runs Raspberry Pi. It needs just a few things hooked up; dude says YouTube tutorials are fine for this, since all the parts are already here and it doesn't require any soldering or whatever. I pretty much just want to use it to play arcade games from the 80s through the 00s...early 00s, anyway. Can this sucker do it? Is this a good deal? I hope I am not angering anyone by posting a dumb post in the wrong thread. But I looked!
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$35 of the asking price is for the Raspberry Pi 3. The rest of the price is for the cabinet, controllers, tv, paint, labor, decals, blah blah blah. The Raspberry Pi 3 does ok for game emulation, but it really depends on what games you plan on running as emulation is complicated. The Pi thread https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3468084 can probably help you out, this page in particular https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3468084&pagenumber=107&perpage=40#post460033505 (a year old though). You could also search the internet for "raspberry pi 3 (game) mame emulation" to see if it'll work/run ok. The retro game thread can probably help you figure out if the cabinet is worth $400.
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Ah, that's great, thanks. Man, this poo poo is complicated...go back to 1994 and my ten year-old self can do wonders on a Tandy 386, but somewhere between then and now I got computer dumb.
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credburn posted:Hey, goons. I really can't figure out a good place to ask this question. It doesn't deserve its own thread, I can't find an arcade cabinet retro games thread (there are some retro-games threads, but it doesn't look like the right place to ask this) and this is kinda sorta like building a PC? It's not worth that much. A raspberry pi is like $35, a 23 inch LCD monitor is around $100, joystick parts are like $60, and the wood to build the cabinet about $50. That's $245. I built a pi3 based arcade machine for my office break room and it's a fun project to build. No way I would have paid almost $200 more to have someone build it for me. It will play games from the beginning of the arcades up until about 1993, then it will struggle to emulate anything newer. Come over to the retro games thread and we will set you straight.
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If you end up with a pi 2 it will handle almost any NES game but it struggles heavily with most SNES titles.
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I am thinking about upgrading my many years old gaming PC, but no idea where to start other than buying a new one. I got an i5-750, ATI 6970, 8 GB of ram. It's mainly for new aaa games like BF1, WW2 COD, etc. I understand I would need new MOBO if I want to upgrade the CPU. I would prefer to go with the most economical route, may be like 500 pounds of budget. my question is, would I better off just buying a completely new one and make this one a living room media PC or is there still life in this one?
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