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I work with a subcontractor company who isn't going to be on the rebid. The prime wants me to sign a letter of intent to join them within 48 hours. The company I work for now is telling my to apply to other positions to stay in the company. Both are saying I can't tell anyone because they aren't allowed to do this according to the contract they have with each other. On one hand, it feels a little good to be fought over, but on the other I feel really unethical and feel like I should come clean to the one I want to stay with.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I work with a subcontractor company who isn't going to be on the rebid. The prime wants me to sign a letter of intent to join them within 48 hours. The company I work for now is telling my to apply to other positions to stay in the company. Both are saying I can't tell anyone because they aren't allowed to do this according to the contract they have with each other. On one hand, it feels a little good to be fought over, but on the other I feel really unethical and feel like I should come clean to the one I want to stay with. You owe them loving nothing. Say nothing. Get a signed contract. Get paid. Console your conscience with a vacation.
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May 28, 2022 02:12
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Beerdeer posted:Homeland Security gets another 8 hours of admin time around a holiday. I'm pretty sure we're over a week now. Here's hoping that one of my apps works out and I'll be a full time Federal employee with y'all soon!
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May 28, 2022 02:12
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Toshimo posted:You owe them loving nothing. Say nothing. Get a signed contract. Get paid. Console your conscience with a vacation.
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May 28, 2022 18:49
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Toshimo posted:You owe them loving nothing. Say nothing. Get a signed contract. Get paid. Console your conscience with a vacation.
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May 28, 2022 22:27
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I went to sign the LOI that they assured me wasn't binding, and as soon as I signed it a prompt came up saying that I acknowledge this document is legally binding. Off to a good start, new company.
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May 30, 2022 02:06
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I went to sign the LOI that they assured me wasn't binding, and as soon as I signed it a prompt came up saying that I acknowledge this document is legally binding. I can have a legally binding signature on a document that does nothing beyond demonstrate my intent. Hire a lawyer for an hour if you want to be sure, but I would presume that a popup on a docusign site does not control over the contents of the document that I am signing.
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May 30, 2022 02:12
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I currently work for a state government, but I have been offered a placement for the Feds. The money may turn out to be very similar after negotiations. I'm currently 4 years into my State gig where I vest in the pension at 5, so I'm a bit worried about dumping that to restart a pension clock. It's a good offer for a good agency and the work seems pretty great. How do you make these sort of decisions?
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May 31, 2022 03:44
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Goodpancakes posted:I currently work for a state government, but I have been offered a placement for the Feds. The money may turn out to be very similar after negotiations. I'm currently 4 years into my State gig where I vest in the pension at 5, so I'm a bit worried about dumping that to restart a pension clock. It's a good offer for a good agency and the work seems pretty great. From a high level view, you'd have to look at what the pension benefit would give you after 5 years vs. 20 years, or whatever point you think you'd stick it out for the state. Then compare that with a comparable trajectory under FERS for the feds. One of the nice things about working for the feds is that you may have a much wider variety of job opportunities, depending on what you do. Particularly if you work for a smaller state, there may not be as much opportunity to move around and find new challenges while staying in the pension system. The federal defined benefit (like a pension) portion of your retirement should probably be a smaller portion of your retirement than the defined contribution, TSP (like a 401k, with a little matching funds, plus more you can contribute). At the end of the day, career growth and promotions are probably the thing that will matter most to the amount of money you have available for retirement. All else being equal, I would lean towards the Feds. There's a bigger pool of potential jobs, and it's the only employer that can print its own money if there's a budget crunch.
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May 31, 2022 04:14
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Some considerations off the top of my head: Does the state job have a lower ceiling (pay or position) than the fed job? Would you have to move to advance in the fed job? Is the fed job now-or-never, or could you plausibly reengage with them a year from now? How much longer would you have to work at the fed job to catch up to where the state retirement benefits would be if you stayed there for the rest of your career? Would the fed job be one that would be vulnerable to executive fuckery or make you do things you find repugnant if a party you disagree with comes into power and stays there for 16 years in a row?
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May 31, 2022 04:20
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Devor posted:At the end of the day, career growth and promotions are probably the thing that will matter most to the amount of money you have available for retirement. All else being equal, I would lean towards the Feds. There's a bigger pool of potential jobs, and it's the only employer that can print its own money if there's a budget crunch. That's where I come down on this one if the salaries are equivalent. There's a lot more flexibility geographically too. That being said, I have seen some local city and state jobs in my area that pay bank and I've certainly been tempted to go the other way. e: how many months away are you from hitting your 5 year mark? You could negotiate a later start date (3-5 months or more even!) and get the best of both worlds potentially.
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I've had to fill out a background check for this one as well. It's not a big deal, I don't think, as I won't have any red flags... Except I am a dual citizen with the UK. As far as I am aware, this isn't any type of clearanced position. I can't imagine this will be a big deal?
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Jun 1, 2022 02:30
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Goodpancakes posted:I've had to fill out a background check for this one as well. It's not a big deal, I don't think, as I won't have any red flags... Except I am a dual citizen with the UK. As far as I am aware, this isn't any type of clearanced position. I can't imagine this will be a big deal? They do background investigations for Public Trust and other positions where you're in a position to get up to shady stuff if you were a bad guy. No one wants a guy to leak a bunch of SSNs and then have it come out he has a record of fraud. Dual citizenship should only matter for clearance-type things where a question of dual loyalty would make you unsuitable. This page has some info about the different levels of background checks they do. https://news.clearancejobs.com/2020/09/01/what-is-a-public-trust-position/
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Jun 1, 2022 02:44
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Any specific things to be aware of heading into an informational interview with someone from a federal agency?
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Jun 1, 2022 06:18
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My favorite thing about the modern web browser is that the features meant to orevent granny from accidentally giving her credit card information to a scammer half the world away also block me from using the training modules I'm supposed to claw my way through. Christ, at least I was allowed to us Chrome at the post office. I can't tell the difference between Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer.
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Jun 1, 2022 18:30
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So my life circumstances have changed and I'm not gonna be able to accept the job with the TSA I was looking at. Kinda sucks, not gonna lie.
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Jun 1, 2022 18:35
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Might not feel like it now, but in my experience not working for TSA is an optimal choice. It has been years, but when I was there it was easily the least functional most employee-hostile organization I'd ever seen. The only valuable element of working for TSA was the interchange agreement that could be used to move into a competitive position at a more sane agency.
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Jun 1, 2022 19:13
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Loucks posted:Might not feel like it now, but in my experience not working for TSA is an optimal choice. It has been years, but when I was there it was easily the least functional most employee-hostile organization I'd ever seen. The only valuable element of working for TSA was the interchange agreement that could be used to move into a competitive position at a more sane agency. Thank you! This was honestly what I was looking for. That, and almost $10k of the salary evidently being conditional or subject to being withdrawn.  I just like airports.
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Jun 1, 2022 20:03
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Star Man posted:My favorite thing about the modern web browser is that the features meant to orevent granny from accidentally giving her credit card information to a scammer half the world away also block me from using the training modules I'm supposed to claw my way through. Our it has a sense of humor and decided to deploy edge in "internet explorer compatability mode", which just means that you're on ie but it looks like you upgraded to edge but really didn't.
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Jun 1, 2022 20:59
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I just completed a written interview for a job This is definitely a first for me, and if I do not get this one then I know the fix is in because me am impeckable w/words Is this just a thing now, or did I find some sort of pilot "maybe we don't have to talk to them anymore" hiring program?
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Jun 1, 2022 21:07
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Dr. Quarex posted:I just completed a written interview for a job It could be that the hiring manager is not able to do a verbal interview for ADA reasons. My agency (and the government to a lesser extent) is pretty amazing at accommodating disabilities compared to private industry.
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Dr. Quarex posted:I just completed a written interview for a job 
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Howdy all, I got done with a phone interview with the Social Swcurity administration, and am scheduled for a second phone interview Friday. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with them and can compare them to a computer operator job scanning papers (gg6 temp, GG4 permanent but they keep extending me in my current position such that I've been on temp employment longer than my actual job). I've gotten pretty comfortable, though I'd like a 7/9/11 permanent job that actually used my math degree. The job on offer is basically a 6/7/8 (and they claim they are primarily interested in people to advance to an analyst 7/9/11 from these jobs) handling questions and claims from the public via email, in person and calls (but that it's not a call center. Southern Indiana if that helps). That sounds like a career tome, but I've been very nervous about it dispite it having obvious monetary benefits (and being permanent). I've seen reviews they can have pretty bad management, and the talk of it being like a family is always suspicious (I believe they made a statement along those lines during the interview, along with saying it was A lot of work). My current job is pretty laid back and I've finally gotten to know the folks here (and my parents worked at the same place, heck the gal who hired me did so because she though I was my dad, if that means anything. She's retired now or I wouldn't even consider it, but her coworkers and my supervisor think highly of me for whatever reason), and I'd hate to go into a heavy workload job for the promise of higher pay only to blow out from stress. What is everyone else's experience, and is it actually worthwhile to wait it out or am I being an idiot for looking a gift horse in the mouth, even if it means not being able to be relatively relaxed at my job. Wow that turned into a lot of gobbledygook. I blame phone posting and being a lazy bum.
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TSP.gov just rolled out their new site. You have to make brand new logins and it may ask for a copy of your ID. Seems like the mutual fund option is available too.
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thechosenone posted:The job on offer is basically a 6/7/8 (and they claim they are primarily interested in people to advance to an analyst 7/9/11 from these jobs) handling questions and claims from the public via email, in person and calls (but that it's not a call center. Southern Indiana if that helps). That sounds like a career tome, but I've been very nervous about it dispite it having obvious monetary benefits (and being permanent). I've seen reviews they can have pretty bad management, and the talk of it being like a family is always suspicious (I believe they made a statement along those lines during the interview, along with saying it was A lot of work). Customer Service Rep at a Field Office? Sounds like it with that description. There's a few SSA hands here. I started out as a CSR. Your experience will vary depending on local management and your coworkers, and most of all your mentor. In generalities I'd say this- the computer-based training is ok but will really only do about 20% of the teaching, the rest is gonna be OJT. If you're not asking coworkers questions multiple times a day, you're not doing your job. You know the saying "a mile wide, an inch deep"? Well, the CSR job description is a mile wide, a foot deep. You're working with several dozen different computer programs, to handle 10-15 different workloads at any given point. You're expected to know the basics of all the SSA programs and be able to give general advice and answers to questions from the public. Career ladder from there is usually Claims Specialist, which varies in grade by locale (mine was a 9/11), either specializing in Title 2 programs (retirement, disability) or Title 16 (SSI- essentially, welfare). It's hard to beat the grade jump in the short time, and SSA does have some real advantages with flexible scheduling hours and telework. The customer service side isn't as bad as everyone (including me) thinks going in, but you will have the fairly regular sad stories and the occasional nutball.
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GD_American posted:Customer Service Rep at a Field Office? Sounds like it with that description. Many thanks. How high is the actual workload beyond needing to know a lot (I think I've actually got a good start on asking coworkers questions. It's something I did reasonably enough so I can probably lean into it if info sharing is how it's done). I don't suppose there's much of any chance of listening to a podcast every once in a while is there (and no variations in the busyness since it isn't like the Census Bureau where surveys regularly spool up then run their course)? Either way you have a point in that it is hard to beat the speed of advancement. thechosenone fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Jun 1, 2022 |
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I mean, it's an eight hour workday. You're either answering phones, talking to people in front of you, or working on workloads. Sometimes I'd have music on headphones in the 2 hours before we opened to the public while I worked on something, but you expect to be interrupted regularly as people ask you about cases you have. It's certainly not something I'd try in the first year while you're there.
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Devor posted:It could be that the hiring manager is not able to do a verbal interview for ADA reasons. CheshireCat posted:“Maybe we don’t have to talk to them anymore.” I signed a conditional offer of employment a couple of months ago - still going through all of the clearance processing - and never once spoke with a human being until I was at their HQ taking a poly and getting my fingerprints taken. This would not be my first federal hire without talking to someone, but if hired it would be the first time I experienced anything between "formal panel interview" and "get asked out of the blue if I still wanted the job after 6 months and hired with little further fuss"
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Terror Ninja posted:TSP.gov just rolled out their new site. You have to make brand new logins and it may ask for a copy of your ID. Seems like the mutual fund option is available too. Oh neat. I'm kinda shocked that they finally are doing mutual funds. Man there are going to be sooooo many scams and so much lost money over that decision.
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scratch that, my co-workers most likely to be scammed might yet be spared by other people's incompetence. 
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GD_American posted:I mean, it's an eight hour workday. You're either answering phones, talking to people in front of you, or working on workloads. Sometimes I'd have music on headphones in the 2 hours before we opened to the public while I worked on something, but you expect to be interrupted regularly as people ask you about cases you have. It's certainly not something I'd try in the first year while you're there. The honesty is appreciated. If offered I should probably be able to handle of I return to my ADHD meds. Sounds like a hard job, but someone's gotta do it. I don't have to much outside my work for this right? Any new developments basically get worked out by working on the job (w/r/t new info that I have to learn). I somehow managed to lose this question in the initial interview, but is it still an eight hour workday? The hours are 7 to five thirty I think, and that's overtime if I'm working all those hours right? Also do they ever do early release? I always enjoyed that with the census bureau, and I'm concerned this will not be the case for here (since they probably need you actually answering questions and can't give you two hours paid leave to go early).
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thechosenone posted:The honesty is appreciated. If offered I should probably be able to handle of I return to my ADHD meds. Sounds like a hard job, but someone's gotta do it. I don't have to much outside my work for this right? Any new developments basically get worked out by working on the job (w/r/t new info that I have to learn). You may be locked in while in training, but flextime means you come in anytime between 7-9 AM, work eight hours, then go home. If you want to work the full 10, you get 8 normal + 2 credit hours. (Or whatever fraction you work over 8). I don't know how other offices work, but our office truly does not care how much credit you work. They do dictate workloads while on credit/OT (usually the workload in greatest need), but that's about it. You can only carry over 24 credit hours to the next pay period anyway. Funnily enough, it's a fantastically suited job for someone with ADHD. I thrived in it when my (undiagnosed at the time) ADHD was at its worst. Multitasking is a definite plus, most workloads don't require deep concentration or long periods at one task, and you've always got a ton of things on your plate. At least, as a CSR. Once I got promoted to Claims Specialist, things got more complex and I got on the meds. You will never, ever get 59 minutes. It's just not a thing at this agency.
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Goodpancakes posted:I've had to fill out a background check for this one as well. It's not a big deal, I don't think, as I won't have any red flags... Except I am a dual citizen with the UK. As far as I am aware, this isn't any type of clearanced position. I can't imagine this will be a big deal? This is a big "depends" but in general, dual citizenship generally isn't an issue unless it's a very adversarial state. Just declare it on any paperwork, and at worst you might not be able to get a foreign assignment in the UK if that's something that might potentially happen. We finally got the official remote work policy yesterday. They said we'll be able to start applying starting in September, which is pretty BS, but I don't intend to immediately. Doesn't look particularly restrictive, though it seems they *may* deny moving somewhere with higher locality pay since one of the reasons for allowing is to reduce costs. But being in the DC locality, that only really cuts out four places, none of which would be high on my list of places to go, anyway. Endless Mike fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Jun 2, 2022 |
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Terror Ninja posted:TSP.gov just rolled out their new site. You have to make brand new logins and it may ask for a copy of your ID. Seems like the mutual fund option is available too. I just get an error of "We were unable to verify your information" and a prompt to call a phone number. And I only got to enter name, last four of SSN, and a code to my phone. Fun.
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I already lost my TSP password and the reset email doesn't do anything. I generated a password with Chrome but accidentally overwrote it because every field on the multi factor login process considers itself a password field and tries to get Chrome to update your password to the security question response.
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lwoodio posted:I already lost my TSP password and the reset email doesn't do anything. I generated a password with Chrome but accidentally overwrote it because every field on the multi factor login process considers itself a password field and tries to get Chrome to update your password to the security question response. Low bidder strikes again
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I got in just fine. It doesn't have any of my history so I went from $0 to current balance on May 26, 2022.
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I've gotten Would it kill them to use login.gov?
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lwoodio posted:I already lost my TSP password and the reset email doesn't do anything. I generated a password with Chrome but accidentally overwrote it because every field on the multi factor login process considers itself a password field and tries to get Chrome to update your password to the security question response. I had a similar experience with the new system, except I think I had a typo in my username when creating the account. There's no way in the system to actually input your email or other identifying information to find out what your username actually is. I'm going to let the high traffic volumes die down and then call and try and find the solution.
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Jesus christ I'm finally getting around to signing up for BENEFEDS and every single deduction stings when you only earn $17.86 an hour.
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