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A 45 second clip of Billy Corgan farting on the Joke Rogan show with guest farts from Willow Smith would be better than anything on atum if he just let Jimmy do his actual thing on it.
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Kingo Ligma posted:A 45 second clip of Billy Corgan farting on the Joke Rogan show with guest farts from Willow Smith would be better than anything on atum if he just let Jimmy do his actual thing on it. Wait, Jimmy is on the album? Why the gently caress do you have a jazz drummer who at one point was the only other Pumpkin to play on your albums because he's that good just do something I can whip up in 5 minutes on a drum machine? That's like getting Barry Bonds to play T-ball.
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Feb 7, 2023 19:58
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Speaking of live vs album, while I think the album version is perfect, this recording of An Ode to No One (which I think is from their final music video compilation DVD) is Rupert Buttermilk posted:More thoughts on that video: It's my favorite lineup as well, Melissa was such a perfect fit. Imagine if Machina had been released as-intended at the time (double album) and this lineup of the band just kept going and putting out albums. They might not have been hugely successful but I'm fairly confidant that we would have got at least two or three more classic albums from them.
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Feb 8, 2023 02:06
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, specifically Montreal, represent.
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I have faith that Billy will circle back around to making badass music with loud distorted guitars and banging rear end drums. Someday.
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Feb 9, 2023 04:29
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RestingB1tchFace posted:I have faith that Billy will circle back around to making badass music with loud distorted guitars and banging rear end drums. Someday. I think the best we can hope for is a dying forgotten star last ditch acoustic album ala Johnny Cash
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Kingo Ligma posted:I think the best we can hope for is a dying forgotten star last ditch acoustic album ala Johnny Cash He already had a crack at that with Cotillions. While not great, was still much better than the last few Pumpkins albums. It's kind of hilarious that he's got Peter Hook's son in the band while he makes terrible New Order sound alikes.
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Feb 14, 2023 23:48
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RestingB1tchFace posted:Interesting. I feel that 'Monuments to an Elegy' has been their best post breakup album. The fact I *forgot* that album says a lot. I couldn't remember which one it was so I looked it up. Being Beige and Tiberius were alright I think? I remember Drum + Fife, it was not good. I think Shiny was notable because Knights of Malta hit the mark as very reminiscent of protest era folk/gospel, with a rad backwards solo, I genuinely love Silvery Sometimes and I remember thinking the rest was decent. Which puts it leagues ahead for me. The fact that every Pumpkins release I just hope they have at least one song I like says a lot. Long gone are the days of eagerly listening to the whole album because it's so good. Edit: the fact that ATUM is called a rock opera is loving hilarious, especially with Billy saying it's far more guitar driven. Are you knowingly lying or going senile, Billy?
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Feb 17, 2023 23:03
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That's what I had meant earlier when I said I was unsure if the synthy stuff was being done with the guitars with different effects and such.
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Ok, so I feel like I'm going crazy, got a bit of a Mandela effect thing going on (I don't honestly believe in the Mandela effect, outside of the term just meaning "could have sworn...") It's apparently "Thru the Eyes of Ruby" and not "Thru the Eyes of A Ruby" and I'm feeling extremely weirded out. I looked up how to play the intro on youtube, didn't notice the difference in the title of that video, but then I clicked on a "composer reacts" video of the guy listening to it, and I (mentally) balked at him saying it wrong. Then I noticed the video titles. His and others. Then I looked up the official track listing and 
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hatelull posted:come around Ruby, I could never sleep alone ... Yeah, see, even THAT didn't tip me off.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U9XJdd4FlM
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Eyyyyyyy... Spellbinding, a track from the upcoming ATUM Act III, is out.
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Lmaoquote:Billy Corgan explained: “When you decide to do a three-act, 33-song rock musical in 2022…You’re definitely stepping in it! Because there’s a lot of people who believe less is more these days. I’m on the opposite side – I actually think more is more!” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHZ48AE3TOI
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WHY is he singing like THAT
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The Something Awful Forums > No Music Discussion > The Smashing Pumpkins: WHY is he singing like THAT
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A Big... Dog posted:WHY is he singing like THAT
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Mar 31, 2023 15:14
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I feel like I've heard the chorus before. It's sounds like a big 80s hit song, but I can't put my finger on it. The 5/4 verses don't work either. It just sounds awkward and forced.
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I haven't been interested in Billy's work since 08/09 (I really liked what he was doing then too) but after hearing a classic rock guy spend 20 minutes explaining the plot of ATUM I have to give the thing a listen once the full album comes out.
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I'm going to go ahead and say you definitely don't. Of the songs they've put out so far, there are fewer than 10 that I'd say are mediocre and those are the best ones.
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Baron von Eevl posted:I'm going to go ahead and say you definitely don't. Of the songs they've put out so far, there are fewer than 10 that I'd say are mediocre and those are the best ones. I don't care how bad the album is after I've heard an aging rock guy tell you that this album is about a guy who has been canceled by planet Earth I need to listen.
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Lmao "I've been cancelled, no one likes my music anymore!!!!!!" "Write good songs again and for fucks sake turn your vocals down in the mix. Way down" "Cancelled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" *Is so successful he can fly his pet professional wrestlers to Australia for some godforsaken reason*
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Yeah part of the reason I quit on the 33 podcast is Billy has no loving idea of what getting cancelled is and also how the internet works
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Kingo Ligma posted:Lmao There was an interview from a few years ago where some critic or something gave him a middling review and he said something along the lines of "what do I have to do to be in the club?" Motherfucker you went on Joe Rogan and bragged about buying a Ferrari with cash
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Apr 2, 2023 13:27
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See Kim Thayil's story about him wanting to be "the cute one."
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Baron von Eevl posted:See Kim Thayil's story about him wanting to be "the cute one." Reading that always hurts me right here, here on my heart.
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poo poo I thought the Machina reissue had been dated or launched 
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SUNKOS posted:poo poo I thought the Machina reissue had been dated or launched Come on that obviously won't be happening until 2015 at the earliest. Probably 2017.
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More time has passed since the reissues were announced than the lifespan of the original lineup
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Billy can't handle the idea that a Machina reissue will outsell anything he's made since the reunion lol RELEASE THE ALBUM(s), BILLY. IT'S THE ONLY ONE I DON'T OWN IN SOME FORM (pre-2000s, at least)
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Maybe I'm just naive but it seems like it's all done but the record company is dragging its feet, and I kinda get it? Adore at least went platinum, I think Machine baaaaaarely went gold that first year. Fro. Their perspective doesn't seem like a lot of units would be shifted.
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Noise Machine posted:Maybe I'm just naive but it seems like it's all done but the record company is dragging its feet, and I kinda get it? Adore at least went platinum, I think Machine baaaaaarely went gold that first year. Fro. Their perspective doesn't seem like a lot of units would be shifted. I believe the big issue is that they can't keep up with the printings of the stuff already out. Everything sells out basically instantly when it gets repressed/stocked. Since it is all 2 LP, and 4 for Mellon Collie, that is a lot of pressing time. Machina is going to likely be 4 LP as well which takes even more time. And it is all on huge back order as well. The back orders on Mellon Collie is evidently insane. RTI would have to press nothing but Mellon Collie for over a year right now to fill them. It is a huge problem across the entire industry. There just isn't enough capacity at the plants. Talking to several people you could have 5x the amount of capacity as you have currently and it would still not be able to handle the demand. None of the labels are investing in pressing either, they are all contracting out still which adds to the glut. The time to wait for 500 copies of something is 12-16 months right now. They could easily release the CD and streaming tomorrow if they wanted, but you want the vinyl version at this point for physical if you are going to do it so that is the huge hold up.
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https://www.ajournalofmusicalthings.com/ongoing-history-daily-please-dont-sing-billy/quote:Ongoing History Daily: Please don’t sing, Billy
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What the poo poo This is like when I learned Chevy Chase plagued drums for Steely Dan early on.
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Lmao when a member of static x is clowning on you musically and they're in the right
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Wayne passed away and his partner took her life not long after, it's really tragic. Hard not to feel like ex-bandmates aren't cashing-in on it either considering they got Edsel Dope to fill-in for Wayne and wear a mask to literally look like him. Whole thing's gross, especially considering Wayne fired those guys long before passing and formed a new line-up. Wayne telling Billy to shut up and stick to guitar is hilarious though. I actually think Billy had a good voice and range during the 90s, especially near the end of the decade with his vocals peaking during Adore/Machina, shame he sounds so awful now. Guess he didn't take good care of his voice? Wild when comparing to someone like Thom Yorke who still sounds incredible, but then again he didn't spend a decade screaming which probably helps a lot.
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teethgrinder posted:https://www.ajournalofmusicalthings.com/ongoing-history-daily-please-dont-sing-billy/ Just in case anyone else is reading this without any prior knowledge, like myself, the guy's name was Wayne Wells, not Welk.
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SUNKOS posted:Wayne passed away and his partner took her life not long after, it's really tragic. Hard not to feel like ex-bandmates aren't cashing-in on it either considering they got Edsel Dope to fill-in for Wayne and wear a mask to literally look like him. Whole thing's gross, especially considering Wayne fired those guys long before passing and formed a new line-up. On the other hand, it would be kind of hilarious if James, D'arcy, and Jimmy had hired some other tall bald weirdo and gone out on the road as the smashing pumpkins. Anyway yeah Billy probably didn't take the best care of his voice, a lot of it isn't that he was necessarily screaming, but singing with a strained voice because he wasn't trained formally. Even if it's not necessarily damage he's done, you can't just pull that off at 55 anymore. If he had started singing in a different way in 1996 people probably would have given him some poo poo at the time but he'd be able to do it still.
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If he'd shaved his head we could have had Nick Cave and the Pumpkin Seeds 
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I remember having a dream back in the late 90s where Billy explained his shaved head. He said "God tells me what music to write, sends like a divine radio signal right into my brain. Sometimes, it's scratchy, so I shaved my head to get better reception."
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