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Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

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watching everyone freak out about the acquisition has been fun

the number of people asking for WRITTEN CLAUSES IN THE ACQUISITION CONTRACT are both large and hilarious

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Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

hailthefish posted:

Maybe I'm an idiot but I'm cautiously optimistic about the future.

i'm a tiny bit more optimistic than i was before they got bought

which is still quite pessimistic


terrified of my bathroom posted:

edit: and I could totally see them either bringing back aurum or turning plex into an untradable cash shop only currency because obfuscating prices is like, microtransactions 101 and that would really gently caress over a lot of people.

They make so much loving money from plex being sold on the market. It's the second best thing to just selling currency and items like an asian mmo, but western players will stand for it.


Gwyneth Palpate posted:

watching everyone freak out about the acquisition has been fun

it's certainly been a godsend for a bunch of people who had basically quit already, but didn't want people to think they quit because they got beat

moon demon
Sep 11, 2001

of the moon, of the dream

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

watching everyone freak out about the acquisition has been fun

the number of people asking for WRITTEN CLAUSES IN THE ACQUISITION CONTRACT are both large and hilarious

Post ur definitive agreement or get out

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

chupacabraTERROR posted:

Post ur definitive agreement or get out

i definitely agree that i am a good poster

furthermore,

terrified of my bathroom
Jan 24, 2014

GAY BOATS

Klyith posted:

They make so much loving money from plex being sold on the market. It's the second best thing to just selling currency and items like an asian mmo, but western players will stand for it.

oh i agree, but if they add a bunch of p2w/pay for qol stuff with plex pricing it's gonna skyrocket plex prices and people with large economic might will be able to leverage it for huge advantages

Zazz Razzamatazz
Apr 19, 2016

by sebmojo
So I resubbed (just before the BDO thing meh) and I wanted to crab like mad do my part for the war effort.

I was in karmafleet but was going to apply to goonwaffe.

So since I already have a goonfleet . com forum account do I choose-

Process A - New Members

Process B - Returning Members

or

Process F - gently caress off filthy j4g ?

DisgracelandUSA
Aug 11, 2011

Yeah, I gets down with the homies

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

So I resubbed (just before the BDO thing meh) and I wanted to crab like mad do my part for the war effort.

I was in karmafleet but was going to apply to goonwaffe.

So since I already have a goonfleet . com forum account do I choose-

Process A - New Members

Process B - Returning Members

or

Process F - gently caress off filthy j4g ?

You're special, email newbies@goonfleet.com

E: someone correct me if it's newbies. But basically it gets tough procedurally join waffe if you're in another gsf corp and you're applying or have a vouch. I've parachuted a half dozen pubbies people into waffe and each time it took an email.

DisgracelandUSA fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Sep 8, 2018

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

it's newbies

somnolence
Sep 29, 2011

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

watching everyone freak out about the acquisition has been fun

the number of people asking for WRITTEN CLAUSES IN THE ACQUISITION CONTRACT are both large and hilarious

I'm excited to finally be able to buy a covops cloaking sabre from the Korean space store.

L0cke17
Nov 29, 2013

I'm calling it now: T3 rigs where a construction component is Plex.

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE

somnolence posted:

I'm excited to finally be able to buy a covops cloaking sabre from the Korean space store.

there really should be a cov ops hictor reward next at

Maneck
Sep 11, 2011

DisgracelandUSA posted:

You're special, email newbies@goonfleet.com

E: someone correct me if it's newbies. But basically it gets tough procedurally join waffe if you're in another gsf corp and you're applying or have a vouch. I've parachuted a half dozen pubbies people into waffe and each time it took an email.

He's a snowflake. And yes he should email. Everyone has to email these days. CCP dumpstered the systems our automated auth process relied upon. I really doubt it would make sense to build a new one at this stage of EVE's life.

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
Blacklisted

froody guy
Jun 25, 2013

The Claptain posted:

Just wait until Kim Jong Un sees some of the Goonswarm's propaganda.

Seriously, thinking at how many brand new propaganda goldmines are open for conquer now that CCP is a Korean company renting some space up in the north, one might even think that goons really are pulling the strings of Pubbieworld behind the curtains.

Like, if someone with better skills than mine at paint photoshop could put something like this together...



Oh boi what a time to be a subscrober!

froody guy fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Sep 8, 2018

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

Klyith posted:

They make so much loving money from plex being sold on the market. It's the second best thing to just selling currency and items like an asian mmo, but western players will stand for it.

They basically introduced a reserve currency other than ISK, so we get P2W with the scarcity of time built in. Over time, I've come to believe Plex was really, really smart. Bringing in P2W without shattering the economy is impressive, and the game mechanics ensure that--except for Casino-scale intervemtions--ISK isn't enough to win over skill, organization, etc.

Philonius
Jun 12, 2005

Ynglaur posted:

They basically introduced a reserve currency other than ISK, so we get P2W with the scarcity of time built in. Over time, I've come to believe Plex was really, really smart. Bringing in P2W without shattering the economy is impressive, and the game mechanics ensure that--except for Casino-scale intervemtions--ISK isn't enough to win over skill, organization, etc.

Also smart from a business point of view. There's going to be RMT anyway, might as well have those transactions go to the company as well.

katka
Apr 18, 2008

:roboluv::h: :awesomelon: :h::roboluv:
Man the nerds on Reddit are losing their goddamn mind over this acquisition. I'm not saying it's going to be all sunshine and lollipops but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt first.

Kimsemus
Dec 4, 2013

by Reene
Toilet Rascal
r/eve: the new home for internet lawyers with internet law degrees

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

So I resubbed (just before the BDO thing meh) and I wanted to crab like mad do my part for the war effort.

I was in karmafleet but was going to apply to goonwaffe.

So since I already have a goonfleet . com forum account do I choose-

Process A - New Members

Process B - Returning Members

or

Process F - gently caress off filthy j4g ?

I may be wrong, but i think karmafleet has more incentives, better srp and other poo poo. Unless you absolutely want the corp name in your corp history, you might as well stick with karmafleet. There are no real advantage to switching corps within the alliance.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

watching everyone freak out about the acquisition has been fun

the number of people asking for WRITTEN CLAUSES IN THE ACQUISITION CONTRACT are both large and hilarious

Pearl Abyss is a pretty lovely company though, some of the freak out is pretty warranted.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Kimsemus posted:

r/eve reddit: the new home for internet lawyers with internet law degrees

You should see how many broke them out after Crytek sued CIG over the pile of poo poo that is Star Citizen

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Kimsemus posted:

r/eve: the new home for internet lawyers with internet law degrees

But do any of them have Texas law degrees?

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

Xolve posted:

Pearl Abyss is a pretty lovely company though, some of the freak out is pretty warranted.

And CCP isn't? Or better: CCPs former owners aren't?

DisgracelandUSA
Aug 11, 2011

Yeah, I gets down with the homies

Dalael posted:

I may be wrong, but i think karmafleet has more incentives, better srp and other poo poo. Unless you absolutely want the corp name in your corp history, you might as well stick with karmafleet. There are no real advantage to switching corps within the alliance.

J4G scum I always knew you were.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

Ynglaur posted:

And CCP isn't? Or better: CCPs former owners aren't?

Significantly worse than CCP, from what I've heard from BDO nerds anyway

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



They do all the stupid F2P MMO tricks, giving you a super-small inventory then charging you realbux to expand it, at a rate of about a dollar a slot, if you want to look any sort of unique, that'll cost you lotsabucks. Not sure what the conversion rate is on their cash to funny money, but I think its a 1-100 conversion rate. A set of fancy cosmetic armor will run you ~22 USD if my conversion math is right. They manage to claw money out of their users in amazing ways.

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
eve is dying, any change is good. besides ccp has done nothing but ruin the game for the most part the last 6 years

nex
Jul 23, 2001

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Grimey Drawer
as long as we get to kill co2 and retake vfk its all good, shut it down

Zazz Razzamatazz
Apr 19, 2016

by sebmojo


So which is it? Have they been talking for a while, or is this news to him? You'd think that would be one of the things they'd talk about.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:



So which is it? Have they been talking for a while, or is this news to him? You'd think that would be one of the things they'd talk about.

he knew about it but couldn't talk about it and only now that its announced they can start discussing and collaborating on poo poo

thats not a contradiction

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Its not a coincidence that the last patch was called "Into the Abyss" and it was full of RNG lootbox mechanics. It was foreshadowing.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




I tried Black Desert and wasn't thrilled, but it does have one innovative feature EVE lacks: You could leave your room. :monocle: :aaa: :woop:



If they can ever get Walking In Stations working that would open up a vast vista of cosmetic microtransactions that wouldn't hurt the spaceship game at all. It would also be launching a huge new feature to try to rope in new players. And the RP crowd loves nothing more than sitting in taverns or running shops. And I gotta think at least some of the people who take their space job too seriously would love to be able to have their staff meetings in a space office where everyone sits around the space conference table. It could probably be a money maker even if there was no first person combat feature and it was just a social thing.

Once you have avatars wandering around they can have housing, a lot of MMO fans loving love housing. And once they have space homes they want to decorate them and not just have anonymous identical space hotel rooms like CCP gave us. People will pay tens of dollars for fake furniture and spend hours lovingly arranging it. For example, here's the furniture you can buy in BDO. http://www.bdo-furniture.com/ Some of that you can get in game, but all the nice stuff requires spending actual money. (Oh, and in BDO there is minor benefit to having one of the best decorated houses in town. Best decorated being decided automatically by having the most 'points' of furniture, with cash shop furniture worth more points than the free furniture. So anyone who wants the best decorated prize turns their home into an ugly cash shop warehouse.)

From there it is no big whoop to add in housing based minigames that let you use your house as a grow op for piddly amounts of tabbaco, spirits, or long-limbed roes. Things that would have a terrible isk/effort ratio, but would be catnip to the sort of people who love MMOs but hate PVP. There are a lot of people who love MMOs and hate PVP.


They don't have to gently caress up the parts of the game that work well in order to mine cash from the IP. They will, but they don't have to.

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

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~SMcD

Facebook Aunt posted:

If they can ever get Walking In Stations

"Un"fortunately, they took walking in stations behind the woodshed. The code has been excised, in the name of the 64-bit client.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Gwyneth Palpate posted:

"Un"fortunately, they took walking in stations behind the woodshed. The code has been excised, in the name of the 64-bit client.

Nothing says they can't rebuild it better. Honestly, removing that GPU-melting nvidia tech demo wholesale was a good idea. Good luck getting a competent programmer to touch EVEs codebase with a 10 foot pole though.

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

orange juche posted:

Nothing says they can't rebuild it better. Honestly, removing that GPU-melting nvidia tech demo wholesale was a good idea. Good luck getting a competent programmer to touch EVEs codebase with a 10 foot pole though.

Who knows? Maybe Pearl Abyss will share BDO's waifu tech with CCP so we can finally have harems of anime catboys and catgirls in our one-room space lofts.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Gwyneth Palpate posted:

Who knows? Maybe Pearl Abyss will share BDO's waifu tech with CCP so we can finally have harems of anime catboys and catgirls in our one-room space lofts.

Do they even have catboys and catgirls? I never checked, I thought that was more a final fantasy thing. One thing of note is BDO took boob physics to about a 12, because lol they're terrible. Even wearing full plate armor with the smallest possible boobs in the game in that does not make female characters immune to "boobs flopping everywhere syndrome"

The answer to this is make a male character, but why does my junk not jiggle as a male character? I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW I AM WELL ENDOWED.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Gwyneth Palpate posted:

Who knows? Maybe Pearl Abyss will share BDO's waifu tech with CCP so we can finally have harems of anime catboys and catgirls in our one-room space lofts.

Definitely. BDO cash shop already sells slave girls maids you can keep captive inside your house.





:stonklol:

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

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the girl on the left is rockin the reverse half mullet

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


1001 Arabian dicks posted:

eve is dying, any change is good. besides ccp has done nothing but ruin the game for the most part the last 6 years

:qqsay:

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Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

Who knows? Maybe Pearl Abyss will share BDO's waifu tech with CCP so we can finally have harems of anime catboys and catgirls in our one-room space lofts.

EVE already has this feature

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