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landcollector posted:I am going to find it darkly amusing if the goon hivemind's reluctance to guide ComGuard units in battle leads to no Star League era stuff being mass distributed by Comstar to the Successor States, thus resulting in a curbstomp of the Inner Sphere in favor of the Clans. The hivemind will only have itself to blame for the fall of the Inner Sphere, quiaff? But what if the gang recover the Helm Memory Core? What then huh?
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Boogle posted:But what if the gang recover the Helm Memory Core? What then huh? I think that's it. We, as a hive, appear to trust Melissa, Kell, and especially Banzai with the tech more than we do ComStar. Though frankly, if we don't rescue Myndo...or at the very least kill her to keep her out of Clan hands....that's probably going to gently caress ComStar pretty hard. So if we get a chance to vote for the ComGuards, this may be the time to do it.
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landcollector posted:I am going to find it darkly amusing if the goon hivemind's reluctance to guide ComGuard units in battle leads to no Star League era stuff being mass distributed by Comstar to the Successor States, thus resulting in a curbstomp of the Inner Sphere in favor of the Clans. The hivemind will only have itself to blame for the fall of the Inner Sphere, quiaff? Aff. It is the way holy Kerensky would have wanted it.  More seriously, given PTN's hint, I think we are clearly in "May the Peace of Blake be upon you... *fires PPCs* ...YOU BASTARDS." territory.
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Bear in mind guys, the success or failure of any given mission may or may not effectively negate entirely the success or failure of any other given mission. We're not fighting for or against any one side, we could be working against ourselves.
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Honestly. I am fine. Absolutely fine. With the ComGuard getting trounced. It'll really show off a different timeline, no ComGuard riding to the rescue.
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Honestly, I think losing an important figure to the Clans would be a stronger incentive than not for ComGuard to hit the panic button(s).
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PoptartsNinja posted:Which adds another question: in this timeline, is the Smiling One secretly a member of Kokuryu Kai? As long as he still has SRMs in his wheelchair, he can be a member of the Order of Cincinnatus as far as I'm concerned. I suppose he's still in "affable swordsman" spymaster mode as opposed to the full Blofeld this early in the timeline, though.
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landcollector posted:I am going to find it darkly amusing if the goon hivemind's reluctance to guide ComGuard units in battle leads to no Star League era stuff being mass distributed by Comstar to the Successor States, thus resulting in a curbstomp of the Inner Sphere in favor of the Clans. The hivemind will only have itself to blame for the fall of the Inner Sphere, quiaff? Hivemind hivemind hivemind, hivemind. The votes have been split pretty well, with always a large group of dissenters veering off from The Chosen Hivemind Path. Really, my reasoning has been that we'll surely get a chance at using ComStar later and we shouldn't spoil ourselves with their superior weapons and equipment just yet, or have PTN show their hand so soon; much like shying away from a battle against <REDACTED> for maybe one or two more battles. If ComStar's going to see its chances to intervene go away soon, that should be our next mission after this. Boogle posted:But what if the gang recover the Helm Memory Core? What then huh? Also banking on this. Screw that, recover the whole Castle Brian.
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Chronojam posted:Also banking on this. Screw that, recover the whole Castle Brian. Seriously, wasn't there like a regiment of Star League era 'mechs in there that Carlyle and company BLEW UP, just to keep out of Marik hands? Bet they wished they'd still had those when the Clans came calling. Of course the GDL have paid the price for that now...in both timelines, come to think of it, since they don't exist in either one anymore, and Carlyle himself is dead in both.
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Chronojam posted:If ComStar's going to see its chances to intervene go away soon, that should be our next mission after this. Soon could mean during the next mission, and afterwards would be too late.
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landcollector posted:I am going to find it darkly amusing if the goon hivemind's reluctance to guide ComGuard units in battle leads to no Star League era stuff being mass distributed by Comstar to the Successor States, thus resulting in a curbstomp of the Inner Sphere in favor of the Clans. The hivemind will only have itself to blame for the fall of the Inner Sphere, quiaff? That won't happen. Sooner or later ComStar will panic and deliver memory cores to the successor states. Whether this happens before or after the Clans have tried to take Terra is a good question. But even if this fails, the Clans simply do not have the numbers to face a united Inner Sphere, and them making a credible attempt to seize the HPG network is about the one thing they could do to make every single Successor State and even Periphery Powers (they need their HPGs too!) stand united against them. Even if it's strictly Tech 2C versus Tech 1, the Inner Sphere will win on sheer numbers attrition alone once they have a good reason to unite. If things get bad, they may well resort to otherwise Unthinkable tactics to win.
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As a counterpoint, if they orbital strike HPG centers, there will be little defense (in the form of aerospace fighters and weaker IS dropships) and a long period of silence before anybody can confirm what's happening  Nobody is ready for a space fight except Space Verizon.
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My assumption would be that if we actually start doing damage to the Clans without Comstar, regardless of whether they then decide to pass out the party favours, the end result, either sooner or later, would be an early Jihad, or at least some other means of Comstar going "Come on, guys, you need us! Really, you do! We're important!"
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I hope we still get to try out that Bobbin Threadbare mission:quote:8th Scorpion Uhlans But I guess maybe comstar first?
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Comstar, then Threadbare. PTN has said that he's not going to take that one out of the running, seeing as it was a reward and everything. Honestly, I think that would be a nice way to see what we can really do in this time period. The knights of the
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Chronojam posted:As a counterpoint, if they orbital strike HPG centers, there will be little defense (in the form of aerospace fighters and weaker IS dropships) and a long period of silence before anybody can confirm what's happening Well, except the Snow Ravens. Granted, that's ALL they're ready for, but they're still ready for it. SageNytell posted:Comstar, then Threadbare. PTN has said that he's not going to take that one out of the running, seeing as it was a reward and everything. If you read the Goliath Scorpion background in the beginning of the thread, it appears that, against all odds, the Goliath Scorpions are the Wolf-equivalents here. That is, they're the ones who object to the invasion at all, and might be there to gently caress it up to get the Clans to go home. Ergo, we need to make sure the Scorpions win, so no one start thinking "we should tank this to gently caress the Clans" because the Scorps are OUR Clanners in this version.
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So we get Caesar in CGS, and he convinces half of them to join the LC as glorified mercenaries. Phelan Kell and Ragnar Magnusson combined but sans the obnoxious Stackpole writing.
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jng2058 posted:If you read the Goliath Scorpion background in the beginning of the thread, it appears that, against all odds, the Goliath Scorpions are the Wolf-equivalents here. That is, they're the ones who object to the invasion at all, and might be there to gently caress it up to get the Clans to go home. PoptartsNinja posted:Pros: Favor precision firepower (and use a lot of ‘Mechs with Targeting Computers), treat civilians well. Hell, I can dig it. Let's gently caress up the invasion from the inside!
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Political Vote 4 Results and Combat Theater Vote 5: “Set a course for Helm. I’ve heard rumors that the Free Worlds League discovered a Castle Brian there; it’s possible they haven’t looted everything yet.” Morgan nodded, his expression thoughtful. “It’s a longshot,” he replied, “but it is worth investigating. The Free Worlders will take notice of the Red Corsair’s return.” Melissa smiled as the jump warning sounded. “With most of their forces deployed against the Capellans, this should be a piece of cake.” ********** Charles Seneca, Precentor ROM, was rarely seen by members of the first circuit. It wasn’t that the small, unassuming man lacked the will or desire to vote; he simply lacked the time. Primus Julian Tiepolo leaned forward, his gaunt, aquiline features betraying none of his surprise at seeing his chief intelligence gatherer at such a routine meeting. The assembled Precentors Tharkad, New Avalon, Atreus, Sian, and Dieron Pro Tem quieted as Seneca coughed to gain their attention. “Precentor ROM,” Tiepolo spoke softly, “this is unexpected.” Charles nodded quietly and, with a bluntness that was truly unusual, announced, “The Clans have struck Tharkad.” His announcement was met with only silence. “I just,” he paused, turning to leave “thought you would like to know.” “Wait,” Tiepolo called. He stood quietly, “has Tharkad fallen?” “As soon as I find out, you will be the first to know. Excuse me, Primus.” Tiepolo nodded his assent, he frowned as he gazed at the first circle. Uthar Everston, Precentor Tharkad, stood. “Primus… something must be done. The Word of Blake—” “—was very clear, should Kerensky return—” “We are to let him bludgeon himself senseless fighting the Great Houses, yes.” Uthar leaned forward. “Blake was a brilliant man, Primus, but he did not anticipate Kerensky’s people could improve on the Star League’s technology. He didn’t expect they’d stay away for so long—and that’s assuming these Clans really are Kerensky’s people, and not some alien invaders—” “Preposterous, Precentor Tharkad,” Villius Tejh, Precentor Sian, interrupted; his voice dripping with false sincerity. “Do you really suggest these Clans may be aliens? Idiocy. It is mankind’s manifest destiny to control the stars.” “With ComStar at the helm,” Tiepolo agreed quietly, raising his hands and silencing the impending argument. “—Regardless, the Inner Sphere doesn’t stand a chance; and if these Clans unite humanity, what then Primus? Everything we’ve worked for could be lost in an instant. The Inner Sphere needs weapons—which means perhaps it is time to give up some of our knowledge—” “No!” Pedregor Aliz boomed, his fist shaking the round table at which they all sat. “We cannot give to one and not expect the others to gain it also—and I cannot conscience giving technology to the Free World’s League. They are already nearly unmanageable; and Duncan Marik is a rabid dog. I suspect he will need to be put down, or replaced—” “—Because that worked so well the last time you tried it,” Tejh hissed. “Perhaps,” Sharilar Mori, Precentor Deiron (Pro Tem), said in soft yet powerful tones which carried throughout the chamber simply because she did not raise them in anger, “a compromise is in order. We return one ‘recently discovered’ weapon to the Great Houses—something which House Marik will not be able to easily field… and perhaps a discount on military and non-military communications to and from units on the front lines with the Clans; with copies sent here for analysis?” Tiepolo blinked, and appraised Mori with an icy gaze. Over seventy, Tiepolo was thin and spindly—while Mori, Waterley’s ‘apprentice’, was the youngest person on the council; yet her words echoed a course of action he had been about to suggest himself. “The Gauss Rifle?” he asked her quietly. She nodded. “The only ‘Mech that can field it is the Cyclops—” “—Conveniently produced only by the Draconis Combine, the Lyran Commonwealth, and ourselves.” Tejh interrupted, thoughtfully stroking his moustache. Uthar looked about to argue, then calmed—apparently satisfied by the concession. “Interesting,” Aliz analyzed. “House Marik is ill-equipped to field such a weapon. Better, Duncan Marik is likely to forbid his people to even construct a prototype if we phrase our ‘gift’ in the proper way.” “He distrusts us too much,” Mori smiled, “use that; Precentor Atreus, and you may have the Free Worlds League fighting itself over the design—” “—with a faction more… grateful to ComStar’s benevolence perhaps taking power,” Aliz nodded. “What news of Helm?” Tiepolo asked quietly; drawing a hush over those assembled. “Duncan Marik has found nothing. There is no trace of a Castle Brian on the world—believe me, Primus. Precentor Rachan has found nothing after years of searching on those same flimsy clues. If there was anything there, Emilo would have—” “—trouble finding his rear end with both hands and a map,” Tejh spat under his breath. “Primus—perhaps ROM should be dispatched, covertly.” “What do you suggest?” Tiepolo asked quietly. “A discreet force. A Level III—” “—is hardly discrete,” Mori pointed out. “Ah,” Tejh countered, “that is true. The ComGuards would be noticed—but a pirate band? Perhaps it’s time for the Red Corsair to make her triumphant return to Marik space.” “It risks much,” Mori replied quietly. “It could gain more,” Tejh replied. “I will think on it,” Tiepolo conceded, turning to regard Mori again. “What news of Waterley?” “I have assembled a force to investigate her last position. I fear we are already too late, but—” “The goal is not to rescue her,” Tiepolo rebuked, sharply. “We must know if the Clans can use our captured HPGs. Our forces are disabling them as planned, but it does not seem to be slowing them any.” “The ComGuads should make planetfall in a few hours. I allocated a single dropship to investigate the Nadir Point. It’s possible the Precentor is still there.” “Who leads that force?” Uthar asked. Mori smiled, “It’s—” Combat Theater Vote 5 ComGuards Precentor Deiron Pro Tem Sharilar Mori has dispatched the assembled ComGuards under her control for an assault deep behind the Hell’s Horses lines. Their target, the planet Richmond, the last known location of Precentor Myndo Waterly. 8th Scorpion Uhlans A small force of elite DEST operatives, backed by a lance of Mercenary battlemechs, has misjumped into a system held by Clan Goliath Scorpion. Can the few Scorpion forces remaining on the world crush this threat before it can go to ground and become a thorn in their sides? (This mission was planned with the assistance of Bobbin Threadbare); total votes for this mission will be cut in half until at least one other engagement against the Clans has been fought. Marik Militia A surprise visit from elements of the Free Worlds League Guards has a company of the Marik Militia struggling to muster enough of their poorly trained and ill-equipped forces back to base in time to honor the Guards’ unexpected arrival.  (Edit: The map has been updated to show the true scope of the Clan invasion) Combat Theater Vote 5: A) ComGuards B) 8th Scorpion Uhlans C) Marik Militia PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 18:16 on May 24, 2011 |
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Vote Comguards. Let the Will of Blake be done, and let us lead humanity out of the long night and into the day.
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ComGuards naturally. This time we will not falter from the course before us. The Blessed Order shall prevail against Kerensky's children!
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I think its time to see what the Comguards are all about.
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KnoxZone posted:ComGuards naturally. This time we will not falter from the course before us. The Blessed Order shall prevail against Kerensky's children! Though we may only reach his children, it is time for them to answer for the centuries old crime of desertion of the Inner Sphere in its time of greatest need.
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Comguards. It's time to end their neutrality bullshit. Let's drag Comstar kicking and screaming into this war.
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It's finally time for the ComGuards.
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Looking at that map... yikes. The Clans are really blowing through the Commonwealth and Combine. That is going to take a few dozen headshots from a Gauss Rifle to slow down. 
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ComGuards it is then. Blake's will be done.
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It has to be done, and this may be our last chance to do it. A. ComGuards
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Fraction Jackson posted:ComGuards it is then. Blake's will be done. I concur. ComGuards is the only option. We've put them on the sidelines for way too long.
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C! We need to whip those militia into shape! What clan invasion?
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A Our faith shall become as Blake's Sword, and we shall bring the Light of Mankind to them with the glow of our barrels!
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ComGuards "Can you hear the Word of Blake now?" *BOOM* "Good."
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ComGuards Bobbin's mission will still be there in the future and gets half votes anyway. The House Marik one honestly doesn't sound particularly interesting to me, though I'm sure PoptartsNinja has twists up his sleeve for it as per usual.
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Wooooo, finally caught up just in time to make a vote! Amazing thread PTN, it was fun if daunting to go through everything in a few days. Going to vote ComGuards, want to see how much a difference the new tech makes against the clans.
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ComGuards. The Blessed Blake and No Quarter!
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ComGuards, because the phone company will crush all!
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:"Can you hear the Word of Blake now?" Who are you going to call? Space AT&T I better Waterley has sold out to the Clans and is helping them as the rightful harbingers of Blake or some poo poo. Hopefully we can accidently murder the poo poo out of Waterley as a traitor while we are there. Or deliberately. You know. Whatever works.
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