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rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

deadgoon posted:

antifa are really just the KKK of the left, a nominally illegal terrorist organization that is nevertheless implicitly sanctioned by the sympathetic among the authorities and the public
dumb on every single level

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deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

rudatron posted:

dumb on every single level

the reason u can get away with punching richard spencer is because nobody at any level of law enforcement or criminal justice cares about protecting richard spencer from getting punched

"the puncher was wearing a mask, guess we'll never track them down" is a convenient excuse for the authorities to do exactly what they want about it (nothing)

this is also true of the KKK and their hoods and everyone who looks the other way at their terrorist acts, from the cops to the jurors

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Talk about a surface level analysis of something political lol

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
White guys punch each other in bars where I live all the time and it's not like the cops are banging down doors trying to find who's doing it.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
If by saying antifas and KKK are alike because both are riddled with FBI agents then maybe your comparison has some validity...

Other than that, I'm sorry bud, try again next time.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I'd still totally pie Spencer in the face though.

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
of course we live in a liberal society, of course u have the right to rally for national socialism -- but of course nobody (sane) actually wants to see that right exercised, we all wish somebody would shut the nazis up

it's against the law to do so, but the unofficial unacknowledged sanctioning of things that are against the law is already part of social life

the difference between antifa and KKK is that in the public eye antifa's remit is to keep the discourse polite, while the KKK's is to enforce racial hierarchy

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

deadgoon posted:

antifa are really just the KKK of the left, a nominally illegal terrorist organization that is nevertheless implicitly sanctioned by the sympathetic among the authorities and the public

lol no

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


deadgoon posted:

of course we live in a liberal society, of course u have the right to rally for national socialism -- but of course nobody (sane) actually wants to see that right exercised, we all wish somebody would shut the nazis up

it's against the law to do so, but the unofficial unacknowledged sanctioning of things that are against the law is already part of social life

the difference between antifa and KKK is that in the public eye antifa's remit is to keep the discourse polite, while the KKK's is to enforce racial hierarchy

ah yes the antifa are there to keep the discourse polite, of course,

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


i think you are confusing antifa with the Rally to Restore Sanity

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

safely sodomized posted:

ah yes the antifa are there to keep the discourse polite, of course,

does antifa ever act against liberals who keep their advocacy of systemic inequality on polite terms

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

deadgoon posted:

does antifa ever act against liberals who keep their advocacy of systemic inequality on polite terms

yes you idiot! antifa/black bloc shows up to demonstrate again things like the wto all the time!

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

Darkman Fanpage posted:

yes you idiot! antifa/black bloc shows up to demonstrate again things like the wto all the time!

yeah well nobobdy makes funny gifs of that so who can say that it ever really happened

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

deadgoon posted:

yeah well nobobdy makes funny gifs of that so who can say that it ever really happened

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Anti-globalization_protests

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

no gifs on that page dumbass

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

deadgoon posted:

no gifs on that page dumbass

don't sign your posts

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
im really glad the anarchists put the brakes on globalization by breaking a few windows

it was super-effective, the capitalists are still pissing themselves, they've been completely discredited

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
The KKK was the extra-legal arm of a regime of racial subjugation and killing, acting with impunity and complicity from corrupt local enforcement.

Antifa is a loosely affiliated group that disrupt fascists, is granted no impunity, and is opposed by the police at every opportunity.

There's no comparison to be made.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


rudatron posted:

The KKK was the extra-legal arm of a regime of racial subjugation and killing, acting with impunity and complicity from corrupt local enforcement.

Antifa is a loosely affiliated group that disrupt fascists, is granted no impunity, and is opposed by the police at every opportunity.

There's no comparison to be made.

no they are both the same because they are opposed to one another


the truth must be in the middle it must

EmpyreanFlux
Mar 1, 2013

The AUDACITY! The IMPUDENCE! The unabated NERVE!
Opposing violence from local and the state organizations against minorities = Attempting to cleanse your country of undesirables to create an authoritarian ethnostate.

BrainParasite
Jan 24, 2003


deadgoon posted:

no gifs on that page dumbass

Only registered members can see post attachments!

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

deadgoon posted:

im really glad the anarchists put the brakes on globalization by breaking a few windows

it was super-effective, the capitalists are still pissing themselves, they've been completely discredited

Look at this lovely little corncob.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Reminded of Saint's Row naming the limo Status Quo. Amazingly apropos.

Antifa seems to me like something that's probably necessary given current conditions but you really don't wanna get out of hand. Though if there's any significant South Australian alt-right presence I may have to join the local chapter. I know an abuser and predator when I see one, from far too personal experience.

The scary part is that alt-right and antifa seem like two sides of the same coin, in that they're a coin flip of people angry enough to get out on the streets to try and make a difference, with the difference being what makes them angry. You've just got to convince people that they've been abandoned not because the system betrayed their pale skin or male gender, but because it was never meant for those of their age and their parents' wealth. There's no majority that looks like them for them to join, but if they talk to different looking kinds of people, they might have something in common.

(I think. I get super sentimental when drunk, but I can't hate anyone)

Fauxbot
Jan 20, 2009

I need more wine.

Al! posted:

modern anarchism is scary to ppl i agree, because it's not based in the teachings of the enlightenment. you should also understand that most anarchists don't believe that utopia as they envision it can happen before communism, which is often why there is tension btwn anarchists and communists because anarchists believe often their ultimate role will be to tear down the communist state for a society that is post-authority (and that will require a lot of infrastructure to already be in place which communists are really good at).

i know this is pages ago but what planet do you live on that you consider anarchism to be based on anything other than the enlightenment. liberalism, marxism, and anarchism are all post-enlightenment, rationalist ideologies.

i've also never heard an anarchist talk about the need to "tear down the comunist state", if anybody is ever thinking that far ahead i find most (actual, class struggle) anarchists trend at some level towards the sort of post-revolutionary and non-prescriptivist experimentalism of the kind that malatesta espouses.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Inescapable Duck posted:

The scary part is that alt-right and antifa seem like two sides of the same coin, in that they're a coin flip of people angry enough to get out on the streets to try and make a difference, with the difference being what makes them angry.

who do I have to punch to ensure this take never goes outside again

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
really, u might as well start calling it anarKKKy, i just dont see a difference, that limo had a family,

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

It's kind of hilarious some people are worried about anti-fa being a slippery slope when just yesterday Trump was encouraging the police to commit extra judicial state violence on people.

But please keep comparing AFA to the loving Klan

selec
Sep 6, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!
A few pages back but Tim Pool was in the mentions of the Patreon CEO's tweet that linked to the gently caress Lauren's Money video making vague complaints of dishonesty or misrepresentation. That dude is the Carl Pilkington of "indie" journalists. Very similar scam as Dave Rubin, but a naive manlet instead of a naive empty suit.

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

deadgoon posted:

antifa are really just the KKK of the left, a nominally illegal terrorist organization that is nevertheless implicitly sanctioned by the sympathetic among the authorities and the public

Imagine making this post lmao

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

ScrubLeague posted:

Imagine making this post lmao

im sorry, i cant hear u, underneath ur thick white hood

Fauxbot
Jan 20, 2009

I need more wine.
i stuck an antifa sticker on my fridge, ergo, i'm basically living in the wolf's lair

BrainParasite
Jan 24, 2003


the bitcoin of weed posted:

who do I have to punch to ensure this take never goes outside again

You can't stop liberalism with punches.

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
whats antifa do:
1: masturbatory protests nobody cares about
2: punching nazis so liberals dont have to

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
i am antifa

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

deadgoon posted:

whats antifa do:
1: masturbatory protests nobody cares about
2: punching nazis so liberals dont have to

And a grateful nation thanks them

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

ScrubLeague posted:

And a grateful nation thanks them

yeah the average liberal loves it when nazis get punched

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 23 days!)

deadgoon is the KKK of posting

HMS Beagle
Feb 13, 2009



Pener Kropoopkin posted:

deadgoon is the KKK of posting

Does this mean it's okay if I punch him?

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
i've seen a lot of bad posts in my day. made some of 'em. i know.

but deadgoon's posts...

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deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
deadgoon posts are not a hate crime

deadgoon posts are heritage

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