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anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
imo keep super delegates, but make it illegal to declare who you're voting for and also mysteriously remove every super delegate from the voter rolls unless they have an ID card (must be purchased from the DSA by proving you're a socialist)

also you have to register with the DSA last year

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anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
that IS what the democratic establishment wants, right? just like cuomo intended!!

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

let the superdelegates vote but all 800 or whatever of them are counted in a simple majority vote for 1 delegate to be allocated at the convention

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

IMO let the superdelegates vote then ignore their vote and cast them into a volcano en masse.

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

etalian posted:

It's hilarious how belief in this bootstrap myth is something that both bad dems and the GOP gladly embrace.

bootstrap myth will never go away because it's the most low effort way of blaming the poor for being poor

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Vox Nihili posted:

IMO let the superdelegates vote then ignore their vote and cast them into a volcano en masse.

this would also be fine tbh

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 16 days!)

The best thing about the bootstraps meme is its origins as an idiom whose whole point is that it's impossible to pull yourself up by the bootstraps.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
https://twitter.com/KrangTNelson/status/1005914862407561217

Uranium
Sep 11, 2001

Through constant decay
Uranium creates
the radioactive ray.



Cynthia will never reveal the Wu-Tang secret.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
https://twitter.com/Robillard/status/1005997113623433218

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
let them fight

Mandoric
Mar 15, 2003
https://twitter.com/MorganCarlston/status/1005976427358031872
https://twitter.com/MorganCarlston/status/1005976927352573952

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!
keep super delegates but they have to commit suicide live at the convention for their vote to count

if they feel it really is their civic duty to override the electorate, so be it

unbutthurtable
Dec 2, 2016

Total. Tox. Rereg.


College Slice

This is pretty wild, actually

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Percelus posted:

bootstrap myth will never go away because it's the most low effort way of blaming the poor for being poor

People are poor because they are lazy and don't work hard enough claimed John Lewis.

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015
Centrist middle class professionals want to believe very hard that there's a way to d eugenics the woke way because otherwise the just-world nonsense that underlines their entire meritocratic worldview completely falls apart.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I think the "post a picture of your battered face whenever anyone questions your morals or judgment" thing started with John Lewis

Centrists want to get punched in the face so they can claim to be victims - it's a design, not a flaw

Jazerus
May 24, 2011



data genius clinton campaign, way ahead on data

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

Brooklyn was working hard with Pokemon Go to develop their own app. I mean did you even listen to her speeches?

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

punk rebel ecks posted:

So the person I responded to about Kamala Harris responded back with "PURITY TESTS! TRUMP! TRUMP Who cares about what she did about foreclosures, Trump is making it more difficult for new home buyers to get loans!"

electing a bad Dem on the theory that they are "better than the Republican" is actually counterproductive, because four/eight years later, people still have all the problems they elected the Dem to fix, so they're even less likely to vote for a Dem than usual

unbutthurtable posted:

This is pretty wild, actually

it's fairly standard stuff, I believe

if you have a big enough advertising budget, the social network companies will happily send you some staffers to advise you so you don't feel like you're wasting that ad money

given the sheer amount of money that gets spent on political advertising, I'm honestly not that shocked that they had specialized divisions just for politics

that said, Parscale is a tremendous bullshit-monger and I wouldn't believe a word he says without outside confirmation

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!




the best prepared candidate in history

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

Zoran posted:

keep super delegates but they have to commit suicide live at the convention for their vote to count

if they feel it really is their civic duty to override the electorate, so be it

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

He realizes this just makes the Clinton campaign look like idiots, right

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


EugeneJ posted:

He realizes this just makes the Clinton campaign look like idiots, right

no the trump campaign cheated!!!

Mandoric
Mar 15, 2003

Main Paineframe posted:

that said, Parscale is a tremendous bullshit-monger and I wouldn't believe a word he says without outside confirmation

According to CBS, they got confirmation from Clinton staffers.

And yeah, the story isn't that the Trump campaign had embedded account managers who liked them, that's normal in advertising on that scale. It's entirely that the Clinton campaign turned it down.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
imo don’t let them vote until the second ballot but have fun with it:

reps get one vote for each term they have served
senators get four votes for each term
governors get one vote for each county in their state (demesne size)
Vice Presidents gets two votes for every tie they broke in the senate
Presidents get votes equal to their approval rating on their last day in office rounded up
DNC chairs get one vote for every million dollars of debt the DNC was in when they left

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
Clinton was so go drat assured she was going to win she never even tried.

Which is why her response on election night about how they'd never let her become president is so funny.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Lord of Pie posted:

I called John Lewis an establishment dem in one of the old bernie threads and hoo boy did that bring out the succ

ahh the good ol days

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


EugeneJ posted:

He realizes this just makes the Clinton campaign look like idiots, right

a friend of mine who works regularly with facebook advertising for his company says that this is more or less standard for facebook to assign a couple people for dedicated support

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Lord of Pie posted:

I called John Lewis an establishment dem in one of the old bernie threads and hoo boy did that bring out the succ

did Pinterest Mom hound you relentlessly about it

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Lord of Pie posted:

I called John Lewis an establishment dem in one of the old bernie threads and hoo boy did that bring out the succ

ah i remember that scrum

it was during the bruce rappaport period right, when john lewis was wheeled out by the dems to cast aspersions on bernie's civil rights movement cred

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

zeal posted:

ah i remember that scrum

it was during the bruce rappaport period right, when john lewis was wheeled out by the dems to cast aspersions on bernie's civil rights movement cred

didn't he say he saw Bill and Hillary at the Selma March or something ridiculous

edit:

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/after-2008-flip-flop-john-lewis-barnstorms-hard-for-clinton-campaign-219307

quote:

“To be very frank, I never saw him, I never met him,” said Lewis, in response to a question about Sanders’ civil rights record. “I chaired the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee for three years, from 1963 to 1966. I was involved in sit-ins, in the Freedom Rides, the March on Washington, the March from Selma to Montgomery ... but I met Hillary Clinton.”

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


please do not invoke the memory of bernie rappaport. that person is non grata around here. here we cheer for bruce sanders

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

EugeneJ posted:

didn't he say he saw Bill and Hillary at the Selma March or something ridiculous

edit:

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/after-2008-flip-flop-john-lewis-barnstorms-hard-for-clinton-campaign-219307

that's it, i remember being shouted at by centrist dems over all that too

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
When Bernie labeled the PPFA's pac as being part of the establishment it freaked out so many Bad Dems including Rachel Maddow.

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015

Rand alPaul posted:

When Bernie labeled the PPFA's pac as being part of the establishment it freaked out so many Bad Dems including Rachel Maddow.

They then proceeded to ask Trump's department of labour to help them union bust while agitating against single payer in Cali. It sucks that something as vital as PP is ultimately run by the same kind of assholes you find all over the non profit industrial complex.

(Also he also called the Human Rights Campaign establishment and people who should loving know better were suddenly pretending that the most beltway, establishment bourgie gay org possible was a plucky little grassroots organization that gave a single gently caress about anything other than marriage)

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

EugeneJ posted:

didn't he say he saw Bill and Hillary at the Selma March or something ridiculous

edit:

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/after-2008-flip-flop-john-lewis-barnstorms-hard-for-clinton-campaign-219307

It was an extremely calculated statement meant to call Bernie's Civil Rights involvement into question while allowing a later, lesser-seen clarification that he didn't mean the Civil Rights era, he meant that he hasn't seen Bernie involved with black issues since but he has seen the Clintons.

I've said it before but it is really the most Clintonite thing to go full stupid on an attack ("Bernie is lying about his civil rights involvment") when a perfectly fine attack ("Bernie hasn't really had much to do with black issues since") is right loving there but nope, gotta go all in at all times on mudslinging.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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unbutthurtable posted:

This is pretty wild, actually

much as it sucks, it's absolutely not

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EugeneJ posted:

He realizes this just makes the Clinton campaign look like idiots, right

except for this aspect I guess which is wildly funny and yeah just straight up lol the Young, Hip campaign is utterly bewildered by how a marketing platform interacts with clients

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Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



pretty sure its just that the guys running the clinton campaign's ads werent interested in spending money on services or consultants that werent themselves

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