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Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

pookel posted:

This is true overall but the specific sect involved in THIS shooting have a specific hatred for Ashkenazi Jews & consider them frauds along with believing every anti-Semitic conspiracy theory about them.

yeah, i was clarifying bc someone asked about the broader context. also, all the black israelites in america together probably couldn't fill a large baseball stadium, so the number of adherents to a particular fringe sect may well be lower than the number of people who read this thread

anyway my biggest surprise from this story was the cops initially said no suspected link to terrorism, which usually means the shooters were white and/or christian

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Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

yeah, i was clarifying bc someone asked about the broader context. also, all the black israelites in america together probably couldn't fill a large baseball stadium, so the number of adherents to a particular fringe sect may well be lower than the number of people who read this thread

anyway my biggest surprise from this story was the cops initially said no suspected link to terrorism, which usually means the shooters were white and/or christian

probably the first time they've run into the group, in which case a "what in the..." followed by lots of trying to figure out what the hell is going on there is pretty normal

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy
https://twitter.com/JoeySalads/status/1205253844734742528

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Kj17oVHAk

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better


That took quite a lot longer than I expected. Wonder what actually made him drop out.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

CuddleCryptid posted:

That took quite a lot longer than I expected. Wonder what actually made him drop out.

Q4 fundraising reports are due at the beginning of January and if he knew he'd be clobbered by someone else running in his lane, he saves some face by dropping out now. It probably spares him critical local media attention and, like the Dem presidential candidates dropping out now, at least theoretically preserves a chance to run in the future.

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!
https://twitter.com/QanonAnonymous/status/1205279990163501056

01011001
Dec 26, 2012


lol hell yeah

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004


this reminds me of how tim pool asked dave rubin why he only invites rightwing people on his show to poo poo on the left

like, do these idiots not realize they're giving the game away? if you're an openly white supremacist rag, why try to stain one of your allies by openly saying she might be of their own?

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mr Interweb posted:

this reminds me of how tim pool asked dave rubin why he only invites rightwing people on his show to poo poo on the left

like, do these idiots not realize they're giving the game away? if you're an openly white supremacist rag, why try to stain one of your allies by openly saying she might be of their own?

they dont, no

01011001
Dec 26, 2012

Mr Interweb posted:

this reminds me of how tim pool asked dave rubin why he only invites rightwing people on his show to poo poo on the left

like, do these idiots not realize they're giving the game away? if you're an openly white supremacist rag, why try to stain one of your allies by openly saying she might be of their own?

they legitimately do not

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

No solidarity among nazis. No theory to explain what’s happening or why.

The Chairman
Jun 30, 2003

But you forget, mon ami, that there is evil everywhere under the sun
none of them ever have the presence of mind to realize that other people can read the things they put on the internet, same thing happens with /pol/ organizing sockpuppet posting schemes on public boards or fash groups blabbing about their real lives in unsecured discord servers

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Mr Interweb posted:

this reminds me of how tim pool asked dave rubin why he only invites rightwing people on his show to poo poo on the left

like, do these idiots not realize they're giving the game away? if you're an openly white supremacist rag, why try to stain one of your allies by openly saying she might be of their own?

One of the defining features of online nazis is a desperation to prove to others that everyone is secretly on their side.

It's a combination of cynical recruiting propaganda (no one wants to join a movement that's just bunch of losers online, but plenty of people might sign up for a secret society that has some famous members) and self-delusion (they haven't thrown their lives away by publicly hitching their wagon to a movement so toxic that even the chuddiest of chud movers and shakers won't go anywhere near them).

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Mr Interweb posted:

this reminds me of how tim pool asked dave rubin why he only invites rightwing people on his show to poo poo on the left

like, do these idiots not realize they're giving the game away? if you're an openly white supremacist rag, why try to stain one of your allies by openly saying she might be of their own?

Dennis Prager of all people called him out on this.

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

Clerical Terrors posted:

How do people even afford Doc Martens.

ebay/thrift stores

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
I assume you can also nick them off nazis with the right size feet.

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

It's not a real person

she is, unfortunately, a real person.

she was briefly a co-host of the podcast 'dead pundits society,' which is a series of interviews with leftist academics and journalists. the guy running the podcast kicked her off for being a crank. but, for the period of time she was on, i think they did a number of episodes about 'anti-essentialism,' which involved left-wing critics of liberal style identity politics.

as far as i can tell, she only understood those people on a very basic level. then she took the notion that 'liberals doing identity politics doesn't really work', which is basically correct, to very, very weird places. at first she came across as a crude class reductionist ranting about idpol or whatever, but now she's more or less a fascist.

i might be missing something, or mischaracterizing her, but even if i am she's a real person who holds most of the views she tweets about

SpaceGoku
Jul 19, 2011

Finicums Wake posted:

she is, unfortunately, a real person.

she was briefly a co-host of the podcast 'dead pundits society,' which is a series of interviews with leftist academics and journalists. the guy running the podcast kicked her off for being a crank. but, for the period of time she was on, i think they did a number of episodes about 'anti-essentialism,' which involved left-wing critics of liberal style identity politics.

as far as i can tell, she only understood those people on a very basic level. then she took the notion that 'liberals doing identity politics doesn't really work', which is basically correct, to very, very weird places. at first she came across as a crude class reductionist ranting about idpol or whatever, but now she's more or less a fascist.

i might be missing something, or mischaracterizing her, but even if i am she's a real person who holds most of the views she tweets about

nah she's basically just a sponge who absorbs the surface level ideology of everyone she talks to and since no self-respecting person wants to associate with her that means the only people who talk to her anymore are internet fascists, so that's her new ideology

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Kung Food posted:

Dennis Prager of all people called him out on this.

yeah! him too, i nearly forgot about that instance as well

Tias
May 25, 2008

Pictured: the patron saint of internet political arguments (probably)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund
Lol what planet do you even live on, DocBalor? I have a pair of docs with red laces, because I used to belong to an antifa skinhead crew. Also, Docs are high fashion in an affordable range, and everyone up to and including my aunt has a pair now. Lace/brace colours either mean gently caress all or are heavily context and area dependant.

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





The last pair of docs I bought were pretty poo poo quality, and I was told to buy Solovair instead.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Tias posted:

Lol what planet do you even live on, DocBalor? I have a pair of docs with red laces, because I used to belong to an antifa skinhead crew. Also, Docs are high fashion in an affordable range, and everyone up to and including my aunt has a pair now. Lace/brace colours either mean gently caress all or are heavily context and area dependant.

But let me tell you about the colour hankerchief I have in my back pocket.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
I listened to some early DPS episodes, but I got bored with the anti-identity politics stuff and the interview format. I don't think there was a cohost on any of the interviews I heard, though.

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Finicums Wake posted:

she is, unfortunately, a real person.

she was briefly a co-host of the podcast 'dead pundits society,' which is a series of interviews with leftist academics and journalists. the guy running the podcast kicked her off for being a crank. but, for the period of time she was on, i think they did a number of episodes about 'anti-essentialism,' which involved left-wing critics of liberal style identity politics.

as far as i can tell, she only understood those people on a very basic level. then she took the notion that 'liberals doing identity politics doesn't really work', which is basically correct, to very, very weird places. at first she came across as a crude class reductionist ranting about idpol or whatever, but now she's more or less a fascist.

i might be missing something, or mischaracterizing her, but even if i am she's a real person who holds most of the views she tweets about

So the reason everybody cares about is podcast fandom poo poo?

Dekko
May 23, 2007

Halloween Jack posted:

I listened to some early DPS episodes, but I got bored with the anti-identity politics stuff and the interview format. I don't think there was a cohost on any of the interviews I heard, though.

Yeah, the anti-essentialism series is really old.

The dead pundits guy made a few podcasts that were anti-idpol, but they were generally fairly sober, well thought through and also had Adolph Reed. Then he moved on to other stuff, because critiquing aspects idpol and the turbo-wokes of twitter are ultimately pretty minor within the very broad topic of 'how do we get socialism?'.

Aimee Terese, on the other hand, basically had her brain melted by twitter. Used to scatter cogent points among the bad, but if all you ever do is post all day about one thing and then get dragged for it, and then post some more and also have a personality disorder of some sort it aint gonna end well. Shes a rando with absolutely no clout or influence though, so best for everybody to ignore her I think.

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quote:

So the reason everybody cares about is podcast fandom poo poo?

Yes

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

mike12345 posted:

The last pair of docs I bought were pretty poo poo quality, and I was told to buy Solovair instead.

I loved my pair of solovairs but lol at ever being able to afford another

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

So the reason everybody cares about is podcast fandom poo poo?

'cares' is a strong word here, most people aware of her just like laughing and scratching their heads at her nonsense takes

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I'm sick of seeing her dumbass posts. She posts like a 4chan dunce

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
I’m partial to her vindication of the frenworld poo poo as full of heartbreaking pathos and not antisemitic in comparison to Eli Valley (of all people) - months after even the groypers moved on from it.

it’s a good bit

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
Why does anyone take Marc Randazza seriously

quote:

I don’t give a poo poo what Tsarnaev deserves. He deserves to be tortured. He deserves an agonizing death. He deserves to have watched his brother die. He deserves to be strapped to a table, with his rear end up in the air, and then to be put right in the prison yard in the incorrigible rapist section of a maximum security prison, with everyone in that cell block informed that every time they violate him, they get a day off their sentence.

It's overall a good post about how we shouldn't have let Tsarnaev be tried in Boston because at least one of the jurors was explicitly bragging about being on the jury, but what is with right wingers and their loving torture fantasies lately.

He's done good work for freedom of speech issues and fought against SLAPP suits, but come the gently caress on dude you are 50 years old, what the gently caress is wrong with your brain when you write about prison rape like that.

TheBalor
Jun 18, 2001

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

I'm sick of seeing her dumbass posts. She posts like a 4chan dunce

Yeah, I really don't know why she gets posted so much. She's not dumb enough to be funny and she doesn't actually have any good points.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

She's a perfect example of the Dick Dorkins "I'm a smart person, therefore all my thoughts and opinions are good" mindset put into fast forward by being extremely online.

She gets an outsized amount of attention because the small number of fans she does have are also all extremely online and will engage with any and all criticism of her, so lots more people than you'd think have awareness of her.

I have a personal dislike because I believe that as the climate emergency gets worse, and as it causes more and more refugees and population movement overall, ecofascism and strasserism are going to become increasingly appealing to the sections of the populace already embracing Know Nothing populism. Letting that poo poo fester because it wasn't popular is how we got into this mess I'm the first place, and I'm not going to make that mistake again

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
She's the cult goddess of r/stupidpol and those folks seem dangerous.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Azathoth posted:

She gets an outsized amount of attention because the small number of fans she does have are also all extremely online and will engage with any and all criticism of her, so lots more people than you'd think have awareness of her.

But that's mostly from people making posts trying to own her. She may have her contingent of reply guys, but even the ramen-haired gun girl has some. I just don't see what she's doing besides getting online leftists to respond to her that makes her "a threat."

Black Sabas
Apr 29, 2015

Grand Prize Winner posted:

I had one with a flag on it and nearly got my rear end kicked in britain for soccer reasons so I ripped the flag off.

another one to watch out for that you see in the socal punk scene (and probably others) is band logos featuring a skanking skinhead in what could described as a swasticular posture:



I can't remember any other names, these guys are locals and probably RAM-affiliated, but there's other bands with very similar logos without the crutches.

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?
it’s uniquely stupid that she had her brain broken by “idpol is bad” when she’s just turned to defending white male idpol because it’s their only resort because they’re repressed

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
https://twitter.com/elivalley/status/1205568229780992005

:whitewater:

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Please tell me Highlights for children isn't a chud rag now

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Goofus: responsible for his own murder by white supremacists

Gallant: was just being proud of his own heritage

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divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

Newsweek post-2013 got deemed a not very reliable source on wikipedia just last week, and now you have some idea why

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