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TheDemon posted:Double income on a small provs/player means blood is a lot worse than normal, blood sac excepted. Not sure how no one realized that. Yeah blood hunting is essentially a trade of gold and pop for blood slaves. If you have double gold you are paying twice as much for slaves.
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Just thought I'd share these screenshots from Dragonsareobsolete because of the pure absurdity. I am LA Pan and this is a province I am scripting.  Which is pages and pages of this.  3 separate 20 slave communions plus chaff were converged on this province (a horrible lemur province) in order to provide two thousand six hundred siege power so that I could bust the walls in one turn and attempt a hail mary storm of the castle. I started an hour ago, and am still trying to sort out the mess. 
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Nuclearmonkee posted:
Ban Lemurs. The anti fun nation.
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Generally, if I try something like this it always ends hilarious. Like that one time I accidentally forgot to actually move one of my multiple scripted armies, or that one time my giant communion killed nearly hundred of my mages due to bad scripting.
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I made one hugely embarrassing mistake with orders once. I wanted to ambush a siege force that was about to engage a fortress of mine. The plan was that garrison would patrol with the PD, and on the same turn the enemy arrived my flying, combat pretender and 60 or so flying troops would drop on the province from out of sight as surprise reinforcements. Unfortunately I neglected to give my pretender and company the correct orders, and they were set to "move" instead of "move and patrol". So as the battle began my pretender and his troops flew directly into the fortress to seek shelter while the garrison and the PD marched out to meet the enemy alone  But then in a surprise twist the heroic garrison soldiers shattered the enemy army anyway 
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May 28, 2015 18:57
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Magic stronk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMOF0gSSNSc
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 The bogarus problem in dank memes is not going away. Please stop fighting amongst yourselves (he has this income plus a bunch of event stuff from firebirds for sure) Boing fucked around with this message at 12:31 on May 29, 2015 |
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Nuclearmonkee posted:the pure absurdity    The lemur throne win was not meant to be 
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So funny story: I mistakenly moved a solo vizier from Boing's mod to attack an indie province. It won: http://i.imgur.com/I1Ufh3y.gifv When I tried to duplicate this feat he died, but it was pretty amazing.
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May 29, 2015 15:24
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Boing posted:
That is as close as I've seen them get aside from that one game Jsoh was probably going to win which modpud deleted.
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I won my first game! It was only my second MP game and within a group of friends that are pretty new to the game as well. Basically, it was a disciple game that came down to the only two players who were expanding (Jotunheim and Agartha, me) fighting each other while most of the other players were spending all of their gold making a Maginot line of 100 PD provinces. Jotunheim couldn't kill my N9W9 sentinels, so I ended up winning pretty handily after consolidating my slow-rear end MM1 forces. After absorbing the second largest player in the game, steamrolling my way to the other thrones wasn't an issue. I uploaded some lovely screenshots (mostly of battle reports, the map and score graphs) here: http://imgur.com/a/ytyfn I started joining the dom4goons IRC channel about a month ago, asking all of my stupid newbie questions and...*sniffle*... I don't think I could have won it without you guys. Really though... thanks for all of the help. 
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Atlanton posted:I uploaded some lovely screenshots (mostly of battle reports, the map and score graphs) here: http://imgur.com/a/ytyfn count_statue_dwayne_johnston_references++
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I got within two turns of a lemurs thrones victory once, then Boing attacked me. I count this as payback. Strangely, I'm fairly sure he was rolling a dwayne johnston golem at the time too.
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Testing map connection algorithm: Got some optimizing that I could do, but this certainly seems to work. I don't see any dumb connections being generated or any missing connections. Plus this should be easily translated into text file output, since each province stores a list of neighbors. Corbeau fucked around with this message at 23:55 on May 29, 2015 |
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Corbeau posted:Testing map connection algorithm: Is there a plan to support wraparound maps? It looks like the province tiling wraps around, but that the connections do not.
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The connections do wrap, you can see them going all the way across the map.
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Dirk the Average posted:Is there a plan to support wraparound maps? It looks like the province tiling wraps around, but that the connections do not. They wrap - they're just pointing across the map rather than into the void.
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Corbeau posted:They wrap - they're just pointing across the map rather than into the void. Ah, neat! Phone posting, so I couldn't see that detail.
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Dragonsareobsolete has finally (mercifully ended). Everyone has agreed to tap out rather than force a long grueling march that would be required for a throne victory since I have only 3 level 1 thrones in my neighborhood. Graphs are above in Boing's post. I was LA Pan, with an S3D5 dom9 o3p3h3g0mis2magic1 awake sphinx. Her job was 1) to expand and 2) to cast burden of time someday after searching me up a death income. On the last turn she looked like this  Map  I had a relatively decent start with centaur cataphracts and the awake Sphinx giving me more than my fair share of provinces. To my southeast was Ulm, whom I attacked very early towards the end of year 1 because LA Ulm. It actually almost turned into a disaster as LordKoth managed to lay a few good PD+xbow traps and had also received that horribly powerful platemail vampire on like turn 4, necessitating that I nearly empty out my mages in order to setup a small solar rays communion to hurt him. We danced around for a little bit while my forts came online and I massed a couple hundred stymphalian birds. Once I brought them down, they obliterated the crossbow stacks in short order and allowed me to bottle him up in his cap before eventually killing him off after an extended siege. Meanwhile, Lemuria killed off Mictlan and split Midgard with Man, Caelum suffered under a dogpile by Batz, Man and Ctis, and Tien Chi attacked Ragha who destroyed the invasion completely and counterattacked, killing Tien Chi. If I remember right Bogarus was just kinda chill with people. After finishing with Ulm, I ended up attacking Man who managed to get up to Rain of Stones, making it impossible to quickly advance with my vulnerable communions that are the backbone of Pan's armies, turning the war into a slow moving stalemate. Since that way wasn't getting me anywhere I went ahead and attack Xibalba as well since he was quite busy with Caelum. I managed to grab a few provinces and 2 forts when I noticed Bogarus moving a huuuuge stack at me, so I pivoted my stuff to invade him since he didn't seem to have left much behind to defend himself. While his stack wandered around those stolen Xibalban palisades I steamrolled through most of his land and sieged two forts. I also went ahead and stole Xibalba's little ocean with two w1s1 Centaur Sages, UNDER DA SEA and DOWN WHERE IT'S WETTER with 2 water bracelets, a couple water bottles, a few water gems and the power of song (also UW water elementals. They are boss.) After this the war with Xibalba devolved into cold war since he was busy with Caelum who had refused to die to a 3v1 and was clawing his way back somehow. Once Bogarus moved his army back north (after bring briefly held down in a siege by barbarians in a low supply province, causing a lot of starvation  ), I deployed a trademark LA Pan Mass Flight/Earthquake trap which inflicted horrible losses. After that it was just a matter of mopping up Bogarus. During this time Lemuria had continued to grow and grow and grow, accumulating a very large gem income and an ability to start generating research in respectable amounts. This is when Lemurs turn from a really bad nation filled with lovely ghosts into something a lot more dangerous. He also helpfully stabbed Man in the back and just mobbed him with ghosts, ending that stalemate. Though Man's god, a d8 raven of the underworld was nigh invincible vs the common ghost, he proved to be far less resilient to a couple of guys with black bows of botulf. After that, Man tapped out after being pushed on all sides and was swiftly overrun by enemies all around. Now it was basically Lemuria and myself as the two great power on the map, though due to throne distribution he was 8/12 points required to win and I was 2/12. He could win without taking my thrones pretty easily. There were multiple ways for him to get there without fighting me at all. As such, I invaded Lemuria which is a horrible horrible thing to have to do, though Pan is uniquely well suited to doing so. They have cheap high siege power units (Harpies/Stymphalian Birds) which they can easily supply with N mages and wine bags, they can easily build communions to obliterate ghosts, and are heavily resistant to a lot of Lemur tricks. They can easily spam magic duel at will to remove Grand Lemurs from combat and recuperate making the ever obnoxious bane venom siege defense much less effective than it normally is. Lemuria did of course go straight for the throne grab and got pretty close to pulling it off. Unfortunately, he had to get through Ragha or Caelum, both of whom were heavily into fire and could genocide ghosts at will with firestorm. While I ground into the blasted 0pop lands populated only by thousands of ghosts hiding in forts, they managed to hold, with Ragha pulling out the previously mentioned 700+ gem purgatory to keep ghosts permanently out of his territory. Though the Lemurs were in a good position, I had a huge income and was producing tons of centaur sages, harpies and pans every turn allowing me to absorb significant losses very easily without losing momentum along with a huge research advantage, which allowed me to eat at his provinces in a steady wave. Though he did steal all of my globals (Mother Oak, Gift of Health, Well of Misery) and had started making Tartarians, I had been quietly alchemizing as many gems as I could in order to get my god to S9 for wish, since I had an alt site present and I knew that his n9 god was holding high gem nature globals. After wishing his god dead, I moved 2600 siege power onto a throne that he had reinforced with 2000 ghosts, knocked the walls over instantly, and then stormed leading to the great goast genocide you can watch up a few posts. After it became apparent that he could not steal thrones for an easy win and that my lead was too large for the other two players to contest, everyone tapped out ended the game rather than force the slow march to 12 throne points. Nuclearmonkee fucked around with this message at 03:16 on May 30, 2015 |
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Decrepus posted:Always put everything in one army. This but the opposite. When using mages you generally want to use as few as possible to limit potential losses and not waste research potential unnecessarily. The later a game is the more dangerous it is to roll around with big balls of mages, particularly if you move them offensively.
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Boing posted:
On the other hand Ulm no longer has an army so feel free to take advantage of that information as you see fit
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Is there a list somewhere of what things you can wish for and exactly what they do?
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Harrower posted:Is there a list somewhere of what things you can wish for and exactly what they do? I use this list here: http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/a-guide-to-wish I'm not sure if that's out of date or missing stuff though.
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With the talk of the modgame in IRC I thought I should push out the latest version of Underhome, the mod I last updated like probably fifty pages ago or something. Here's the download url.  (EA Underhome recruitment for a mountain/forest capital) Underhome is a mod that includes three playable nations loosely based on fantasy dwarves from various sources, including primarily Dwarf Fortress but other sources as well. EA, MA, and LA Underhome are all complete and playable but I'm always open to balance-oriented feedback. Particular to this version is:
If there's any feedback at all in regards to the mod, I'm happy to hear them. I feel like it's mostly full on features but suggestions are always welcome, and I'm especially interested in balance-oriented feedback.
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Add neruz dwarves to this mod or I ain't playin'
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Just making sure that each pixel on the border knows which border it's attached to:
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I Love You! posted:Add neruz dwarves to this mod or I ain't playin' 24 attacks per square or bust
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Corbeau posted:Just making sure that each pixel on the border knows which border it's attached to: This is looking really good
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Boing posted:
 If there ever was a time for a grand coalition guys, seriously 
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Boing posted:
Don't worry, Neruz made sure Lemuria can get strong enough to deal with Bogarus when the time comes. Either that or the fight between Neruz, me, Man and Lemuria drags on for long enough we're all out for the count. I don't know. I think I go sit on Neruz' cap for a while. While Lemuria goes sieging down my own cap. And Man can hopefully use the time to make some headway in our foreverwar with Lemuria.
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Libluini posted:Don't worry, Neruz made sure Lemuria can get strong enough to deal with Bogarus when the time comes. Either that or the fight between Neruz, me, Man and Lemuria drags on for long enough we're all out for the count. I don't know. I think I go sit on Neruz' cap for a while. While Lemuria goes sieging down my own cap. And Man can hopefully use the time to make some headway in our foreverwar with Lemuria. Dude you're dead, I just saw an opportunity to pick up a few extra provinces while Lemuria killed you. But by all means come sit on my cap, its not like I have an immortal pgod who can cast earthquake or anything like that, nope.
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Boing posted:Why is anyone fighting Lemuria Lemuria is fighting him.
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Added an additional layer of complexity to reduce the hex-border feel: e: Small change to reduce chaos: 
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Sloppy Milkshake posted:I use this list here: This is great, thanks!
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Technically Man, Pan and Midgard all started attacking me. Of the three of them Pan is the only one that's actually done any real damage. That's what I get for building a fort in tenuous dominion. But yes all attention, especially Pan's, should be redirected to Bogarus. Ain't happening when I'm already at war with three people though.
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amuayse posted:How do you deal with Lemuria in the late game See video above where I deployed two thousand six hundred siege power to take 1 (one) fort and then stormed it with 10 guys to blow them all up. The main things you will need to fight Lemurs are S mages (to magic duel and render yourself immune to mind hunts) disease healers, ample supply, and priests to preach his dominion out. Then it's just a slow slow grind. Bonus points if you have a pale one site. Usually they have extremely bad research, though if they manage to get research like Boing did they are capable of winning. Firestorm or Wrathful Skies are Lemur kryptonite.
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