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Mezzanon posted:I'm keeping the fiery temper in my build. Champion of wits is so loving good FYI uuunnnggghhh I was going to replace my 3 tormenting voices with them, but it sounds like I should also make room for a 4th? Maybe go down to 3 fiery tempers. Now that U/W monument has moved away from Avacyns, I feel like this deck has a pretty good match up. You have enough single target removal to keep Selfless Spirit off the board to wipe them when needed.
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DoctorOozy posted:So true... never has Wizards withdrawing support been so good. Banning probe ended up being the last good move they made.
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Jul 19, 2017 15:04
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ShaneB posted:Banning probe ended up being the last good move they made. I find it shocking how fast infect went from great to not great just because of probe.
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Jul 19, 2017 15:11
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ShaneB posted:Banning probe ended up being the last good move they made. Restricting Gush and Probe was pretty good for 99% of the vintage population. SMmmennnenmen being the 1%. Also supporting duel commander is a good idea in theory. In practice they have an atrocious ban list and the format is pretty terrible. Also remember that time they unbanned Twin, Top, and Lodestone Golem and banned Deathrite in legacy? That was a pretty good choice imo.
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Sickening posted:I find it shocking how fast infect went from great to not great just because of probe. Infect is even more of a glass cannon than Affinity and has even fewer lines of play that a good player can use to play around answers. Without the free "Do I automatically win now?" magic 8 ball card, it has to play a lot more conservatively to not get blown out and immediately lose. Also Fatal Push is a card now and tons of decks are playing it over Lightning Bolt and you can't Become Immense your way out of that one. Gitaxian Probe was a poo poo card to have around and IMO the only worse card to have around in Modern would be Mental Misstep.
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Sickening posted:I find it shocking how fast infect went from great to not great just because of probe. I don't think it was just the probe ban that killed infect, it was fatal push being printed at the same time. Cactrot fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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personally I do not miss the extremely skill testing scenario of "do I tap out and die next turn, or do I cast nothing and bluff removal so that I die slowly over the course of a few turns?" that was playing against infect i do miss casting blood moon against them though
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http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/organized-play/2018s-pro-tours-and-2017s-worlds-2017-07-19 Modern is a Pro Tour format again, what's going to eat a ban now? Also the Standard, Modern and legacy 25th anniversary Pro Tour sounds cool as heck.
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Cactrot posted:http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/organized-play/2018s-pro-tours-and-2017s-worlds-2017-07-19 Jesus. WOTC can't make a decision last.
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Oh god I spoke too soon
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I'm not super surprised WotC's reaction to the small drop in Magic's popularity has been to flail wildly and do a lot of weird poo poo. E: Disappointed, really, but not surprised. Modern being a PT format is probably a good thing minus their "let's ban things for the sake of loving with the format". Maybe now they'll free Stoneforge 
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Cactrot posted:http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/organized-play/2018s-pro-tours-and-2017s-worlds-2017-07-19 I actually like this change.
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ThePeavstenator posted:This is my exact point. Not everyone wants to get good at games, some people just want to play casually. Getting better at disc golf wasn't something you wanted to invest time in, and no one is going to make you want to do that except yourself. Not everyone wants to be good at magic, and you won't make casual players suddenly want to spend lots of money on the game by making it so they lose less. I wasn't around when this happened but it sounds interesting/stupid. Tell more? sit on my Facebook posted:I disagree with this assessment slightly. I'm fully on board with common and uncommon power level going waaay up in comparison to mythics, but I think building a deck from drafting is more possible now than is been in quite some time. If a new player were to draft every week/most weeks of HOD limited starting now, I put to you they could have an FNM winning deck on tap by the time Ixalan drops. With even a little bit of luck in your pulls and like maybe $25 cash you can have a deck that'll win a standard fnm. I'm looking through the standard rules. That's what's played at FNM, right? How can I play/win at FNM if I have no cards from Kaladesh block? Or are you saying that a deck based on HOU and AKH will be good enough? Carl Killer Miller fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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Jul 19, 2017 16:17
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Dead Death's Shadow Walking.
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mcmagic posted:Dead Death's Shadow Walking. Quiet you.
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mcmagic posted:Dead Death's Shadow Walking. yea this was my initial thought as well. looks like we'll get to the bottom of "does death's shadow deserve a ban or not?" once and for all comedy option: 16+ copies of mirran crusader in the top 8
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Sickening posted:Quiet you. It's clearly too good. I'm gonna play it till it's banned though.
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Jul 19, 2017 16:26
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I don't even play that often, a few times a month, and I'm already bored with the lines of Grixis Shadow. For all the hate linear aggro gets I don't find Grixis Shadow has that many more interesting lines beyond obviously good ones. I'm going to finish up some GB rock deck with a small traverse package and learn to play grindy decks faster so I don't go to time as often. At least I can prepare for the end of the Shadow era.
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mcmagic posted:It's clearly too good. I'm gonna play it till it's banned though. Modern is the best. I am playing a pptq saturday and sunday this weekend.
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Sickening posted:Modern is the best. I am playing a pptq saturday and sunday this weekend. Only one this weekend for me. Which is for the best.
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Now that mtg goldfish mtgo results are next to useless, are they planning to move on to what top8 mtg publishes? Top8mtg website makes my eyes hurt. Is there a better alternative? http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=16226&d=300202&f=MO loving spicy.
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Carl Killer Miller posted:I wasn't around when this happened but it sounds interesting/stupid. Tell more? They reprinted fetchlands and fetchable duals with no good cards to punish for running that many colors or non-basics, so there was very little reason for every deck to not be 4 or 5 color and running all the best cards in the format. Because demand wasn't rly spread out to other cards due to color restrictions, mana bases being hundreds of dollars more expensive than usual, and baby Jace looking like an all star in every format for a brief period and rocketing up to 90 bucks, standard got WAY expensive with decks ranging from 500-900 depending on the list. Everyone left to play modern because it was briefly cheaper.
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If I go to the modern PPTQ this Sunday, how bad an idea is it to just run burn out there?
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ShaneB posted:If I go to the modern PPTQ this Sunday, how bad an idea is it to just run burn out there? Make sure your sideboard has 3 path and 2 palm at minimum and you will be fine. Burn is always good. Just hope you don't run up against company.
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Sickening posted:Make sure your sideboard has 3 path and 2 palm at minimum and you will be fine. Does Palm ever actually do anything vs. DS or is it just going to get countered 95% of the time?
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ShaneB posted:If I go to the modern PPTQ this Sunday, how bad an idea is it to just run burn out there? Not as good as Affinity but probably fine.
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This looks more like a return to Death's Shadow Zoo. I love it.
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mcmagic posted:Not as good as Affinity but probably fine. Yeah Affinity is a better deck, but I sold the expensive pieces of that a long while back because I didn't enjoy playing it that much. I just don't know if I can have a day of playing the best deck vs. the mirror or decks meta'd against it all day. Fewer decisions and faster games keeping me mentally lithe.
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Modern is a Pro Tour Format again? Wow it's like people like Modern or something! WotC functions at the speed of their Future Future League, in that everything they do is two years too late.
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ShaneB posted:Does Palm ever actually do anything vs. DS or is it just going to get countered 95% of the time? Generally you worry about discard more with Palm than counterspells. Ds generally can't sit on counter spells as much against burn as they would like.
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This sideboard seems pretty tidy: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/702340#paper
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ShaneB posted:This sideboard seems pretty tidy: The Stony's might be a little much but every meta is different.
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Banning Death's Shadow is probably what everyone expects wotc to do now that Modern is in the Pro Tour again. They're going to psych us all out and band the tronlands or something equally as dumb instead.
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Sickening posted:The Stony's might be a little much but every meta is different. I almost want to run 2x Ensnaring Bridge but don't own any.
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ShaneB posted:This sideboard seems pretty tidy: That does seem pretty standard. If it were up to me, I'd take out the Relics and put in Grafdiggers Cage. I generally anticipate Company being a lot more prevelant than Dredge.
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InterrupterJones posted:That does seem pretty standard. If it were up to me, I'd take out the Relics and put in Grafdiggers Cage. I generally anticipate Company being a lot more prevelant than Dredge. And then living end eats you for breakfast. I think you are still a dog in the match even with cages.
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InterrupterJones posted:That does seem pretty standard. If it were up to me, I'd take out the Relics and put in Grafdiggers Cage. I generally anticipate Company being a lot more prevelant than Dredge. Yeah, I have seen a good amount of Company in the few stores I play at from time to time.
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oh hey the scorpion god is officially dead in story, I'm sure everyone is excited
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hey do y'all wanna see some clumsy rear end writingquote:The minotaur conjured an angry flame that engulfed the head of its spear. Djeru shuffled closer. "I . . . I've never seen the undead cast spells before," he said.
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