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BgRdMchne
Oct 31, 2011


drink, smoke, and destroy the capitalists more

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Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
The strategy call for Medicare For All was pretty good, we did a viewing party here in Tulsa. Always great to see Timothy Faust speak but a lot of the other folks giving their input were great too, especially Michael Lighty. I also really appreciated Amber's canvassing information, as it will directly go into our own local efforts. Looking forward to when DSA Philly's canvassing materials are put out there for folks, as Natalie Midiri said they are working on doing.

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

apropos to nothing posted:

ideally there are police officers who would break ranks in the right circumstances and we dont want to alienate them or people who might be close to police as family or friends who would be alienated.

Police who would break ranks in the right circumstances have probably already broken ranks and stopped being cops because the police are ALREADY largely engaged in active warfare against everyone who is not a police officer.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Tuxedo Catfish posted:

redistribution of health

there's not many fat kids in the gulag

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

R. Guyovich posted:

well there's little point in making active duty full fledged members right away for practical reasons: i.e. they would get kicked out immediately if it became public and if you're posted abroad then "organizing on duty" won't be any different from what you'd be doing anyway. if you're thousands of miles from the us then your organizing will consist of conversations with the people around you and it makes little difference whether you do that with a membership card or without one

veterans' arms of orgs like psl have feelers in the military but don't make people full members until they're out afaik. i'm not in psl so i don't know for sure (and if i did couldn't confirm either way publicly)

and again, it's a different story for officers. i'd imagine orgs deal with that stuff on a case by case basis

anyway the point is if you're a Troop and serious about socialist organizing you don't make your affiliations obvious until you're out of the system, to avoid disciplinary risks first and foremost

PSL and WWP both actively recruit active duty military

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
active duty soldier becomes radicalized 2 years into his contract, wants a group to talk to and be part of bc they are surrounded by reactionary dipshits and politically apathetic people in their unit.

Sorry we don't accept you please go hang out with the crypto fascists white supremacists for four years then come back and you can join our club lol

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
having socialists on active duty is good as hell because soldiers are impressionable as hell (they signed up for the military) and once you get your inside person honed in theory and being able to explain it they can radicalize tons more

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
I've hit up people I radicalized when I was in and now multiple of them are part of dsa (they're all out now) in diff locations across the country

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
the majority of people in the military below like E6 are waiting for their contracts to run out so they can get out

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Yeah my only quarrel is with the O ranks and career NCO's, and even there's some good ones. Radicalize all the enlisted you can, though, they're great.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
radicalized officers and NCOs are good as hell they're super rare though, officers even more so bc there's like no black officers but a shitload of black ncos

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

i also love the works of the great male feminist Joss Whedon

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Ace of Baes posted:

radicalized officers and NCOs are good as hell they're super rare though, officers even more so bc there's like no black officers but a shitload of black ncos

nah they're cops

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Ace of Baes posted:

PSL and WWP both actively recruit active duty military

yes i also saw that tweet. as i said, they don't make them members until after deployment, i assume to avoid disciplinary snafus

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

R. Guyovich posted:

yes i also saw that tweet. as i said, they don't make them members until after deployment, i assume to avoid disciplinary snafus

i dont think you kno wwhat the word deployment means

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Slanderer posted:

nah they're cops

doctors arent cops

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Ace of Baes posted:

i dont think you kno wwhat the word deployment means

Ha Ha! I caught the man using an incorrect troop word, even though his meaning was obvious. Owned bitch!!!!!

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Ace of Baes posted:

doctors arent cops

wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cquoyScrohU

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

R. Guyovich posted:

Ha Ha! I caught the man using an incorrect troop word, even though his meaning was obvious. Owned bitch!!!!!

watching the big game
Man that goalie just blocked the field goal hey why aren't you guys taking me seriously

Professor Bling
Nov 12, 2008

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

R. Guyovich posted:

Ha Ha! I caught the man using an incorrect troop word, even though his meaning was obvious. Owned bitch!!!!!

yeah sorry your meaning ain't actually obvious to anyone but you because it turns out words have specific meanings especially in certain contexts

also it's sometimes hard to decipher this "total purity first, completely disregarding any personal situations that aren't my own" bit you do even though i'm surrounded by people that assume the freshman year of their college education makes them experts so you think i'd be used to it

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

i'll be sure to turn in the direction of george patton's grave next time i dare make any troop-adjacent posts

and the assumption that i hold the opinions i do as a "bit" or some kind of "purity test" shows just how seriously you view this whole socialism enterprise

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
If you pull the sneering leftist elite revolutionary thinker who is ideologically pure, try to at least use words with meaning.

Because your only contribution, "revolutionary intellectual/ideas guy" loses its last merit when you don't even bother to use proper language and terminology.

Professor Bling
Nov 12, 2008

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
lol "i'm not doing purity tests you're just not as pure as me"

yep, checks out

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
i'm kind of a moderate socialist

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Professor Bling posted:

lol "i'm not doing purity tests you're just not as pure as me"

yep, checks out

it has nothing to do with "purity" and everything to do with an obvious unwillingness to engage with the consequences of the positions you take

it is funny that people here will laugh at shithead democrats erroneously pulling the "purity test" line but immediately run to it the second someone is perceived to be criticizing their org/tendency of choice

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




i know i contributed to this and fairly egregiously so, worse than most other posters, but if this is gonna be the "everyone yell at homework explainer thread, address all posts to homex" imma change the thread title to reflect that, then gas the thread because callout threads are tacky af

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
this troop poo poo is so boring compared to danny

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

i'm kind of a moderate socialist

i'm a Roosevelt socialist

surfacelevelspeck
Oct 1, 2008

communism's sleepiest soldier

bump_fn posted:

this troop poo poo is so boring compared to danny

speak for yourself, I'm enjoying watching stupid internet drama that doesn't center around poo poo I actively am dealing with.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Business Gorillas posted:

i'm a Roosevelt socialist

im an angry idiot.

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

jarofpiss posted:

dsa west point officer actually owns if posting those pics was how he decided to quit the military

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

bump_fn posted:

this troop poo poo is so boring compared to danny

Hat Troop needs to start screaming about the nationwide conspiracy against him, imo

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Agean90 posted:

im an angry idiot.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

How about - guillotine those that re-up enough times to count as career military, and double guillotine those that re-up after having a family because gently caress people who love their uniform more than their families.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

we've already established psl and wwi will work with/recruit active duty military. dsa didn't even actively recruit this guy, he just joined. people supported him because he seems fairly legit, if not a bit niave. now he's going to be kicked out, and the org should support him imo. i don't see where the problem is.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

i guess i'm not sure what Should Have Happened. dismiss him with prejudice? not retweet him? idgi

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Karl Barks posted:

i don't see where the problem is.

you're just not online enough

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Slanderer posted:

i also love the works of the great male feminist Joss Whedon

I used to say "at least he's vocally supportive of unions and uses his fame to talk about how they're good" but now I just wish he would disappear forever.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

business hammocks posted:

I used to say "at least he's vocally supportive of unions and uses his fame to talk about how they're good" but now I just wish he would disappear forever.

a tale as old as time

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Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


zegermans posted:

How about - guillotine those that re-up enough times to count as career military, and double guillotine those that re-up after having a family because gently caress people who love their uniform more than their families.

Yeah do this one.

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