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I've got no problem with Abbot as a person and I'm sure as a politician she's probably very good, however she falls to pieces on camera and in interview so should have nothing to do with attempting to or running a government.
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ukle posted:She did then she did the whole Private School fiasco and was a disgrace to Labour. She should have been deselected years ago, but due to her being the first black female MP it was too political. I highly recommend you actually look up the circumstances of the 'private school fiasco', and if you think she deserves abuse for letting her child go to the school he wanted to, congratulations you're scum.
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ukle posted:She did then she did the whole Private School fiasco and was a disgrace to Labour. She should have been deselected years ago, but due to her being the first black female MP it was too political. Yeah such an unfair advantage in politics, being black and female. Wut.
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Gonzo McFee posted:lol get hosed. The better counterargument would be to talk about how there are actually many good things she has done or put a serious effort into attempting to do in her career.
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Praseodymi posted:I highly recommend you actually look up the circumstances of the 'private school fiasco', and if you think she deserves abuse for letting her child go to the school he wanted to, congratulations you're scum. Her child insisted on going to private school?
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May 28, 2017 11:34
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learnincurve posted:Just put him on ignore if he annoys you.
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Pissflaps posted:Her child insisted on going to private school? On going to that particular school, yes. E: it's on her wikipedia page for fucks sake.
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May 28, 2017 11:35
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To be fair, Dianne abbot isn't that good as a frontline politician, her prime benefit being only "can take premium position without undermining Labour leader". That said though a lot of the right's comments about her are "is black" "is fat" & "slept with corbs" which is not ok.
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serious gaylord posted:I've got no problem with Abbot as a person and I'm sure as a politician she's probably very good, however she falls to pieces on camera and in interview so should have nothing to do with attempting to or running a government. I'm not sure if I trust the opinions of a tiger
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May 28, 2017 11:36
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Pissflaps posted:Looking forward to seeing if you're right and we get a hung parliament. I haven't predicted a hung parliament, I've said it's a realistic possibility.
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May 28, 2017 11:38
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my guess is that Labour will do about as badly as it has previously polled, even in terms of vote share rather than seats, and the Corbyn bounce will not survive into the ballot room. i'll be pleased to be wrong though as for abbott, her major disqualifier is being a gaffe machine. she cannot remember, much less clearly articulate, her own party's policies during interviews before national audiences and has demonstrated this over and over again. this is ok for a backbencher, if annoying, but what the heck it's a safe seat in Labour's many London strongholds anyway. for a frontbencher, though, one is not supposed to be marshalling campaign staff to hastily clarify your misstatements after-the-fact her long career in a safe seat also counts against her on the national stage; many of the core planks of the Labour left have become toxic over the years, even in a safe seat in London. see, e.g. norn iron. being a safe seat MP, Abbott has not suffered much in her constituency for saying careless things. But once the limelight is on you, you cannot say anything that comes to your head about taxi drivers or palestine. you cannot lob vague accusations against amorphous entities, because those amorphous entities turn out to be made out of large numbers of people who will demand specifics. ronya fucked around with this message at 12:19 on May 28, 2017 |
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Namtab posted:That said though a lot of the right's comments about her are "is black" "is fat" & "slept with corbs" which is not ok. Surprisingly, it turns out that regressives are indeed regressive.
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Namtab posted:To be fair, Dianne abbot isn't that good as a frontline politician, her prime benefit being only "can take premium position without undermining Labour leader".
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Lord of the Llamas posted:I haven't predicted a hung parliament, I've said it's a realistic possibility. It really isn't.
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Praseodymi posted:On going to that particular school, yes. She could have said no? Lord of the Llamas posted:I haven't predicted a hung parliament, I've said it's a realistic possibility. It's not a realistic possibility.
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May 28, 2017 11:40
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She's not exactly wrong though is she?
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I know a fair few people at Hackney Council who work with Diane Abbot regularly and to a person say she's incompetent, conniving and deeply unpleasant to work with.
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Namtab posted:To be fair, Dianne abbot isn't that good as a frontline politician, her prime benefit being only "can take premium position without undermining Labour leader". Is saying she's a gobshite OK?
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Pissflaps posted:She could have said no? I think a child of that age deserves to have their autonomy respected, especially if the reason not to is "this won't look good for mum's job".
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May 28, 2017 11:41
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from the same battery of ComRes results: https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/868512679702429697
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Praseodymi posted:I think a child of that age deserves to have their autonomy respected, especially if the reason not to is "this won't look good for mum's job". Lets hope he didnt demand to cross a picket line or go to a BUPA hospital.
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waffle posted:New scotland poll from SurveyMonkey (the comparison is against 2015): Just plugging into UK polling reports swingometer gives the tories 12 seats and in scotland and labour 2. edit: 
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May 28, 2017 11:44
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https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/868517880958201857quote:During the Troubles, the IRA murdered about 1,800 civilians and members of the security forces. quote:But the statistics, released on the order of the Government’s transparency watchdog, show that between December 2011 and February 2014, 2,380 people died after their Work Capability Assessment told them they should start looking for work.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:She's not exactly wrong though is she? It's the kind of thing that you can say fine in this thread, but saying as an elected politician will piss voters off.
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May 28, 2017 11:46
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Maybe she should have sent her kid to one of those state schools in the Home Counties where the parents donate so much money to the PTA that it might as well be a private school anyway like a lot of the other MPs do.
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May 28, 2017 11:47
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Diane Abbott seems to have learned how to do politics from watching Armando Iannucci shows
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namesake posted:Okay but then balance that with 'Working together we will institute a new system which is based on our economic needs, balancing controls and existing entitlements.' and all the stuff they say about the Single Market. Yes it is quite similar to what the Tories said a while ago but when they were called out on it they went full hard Brexit, meanwhile when Labour have spoken about this they've stuck to stating technical facts like 'Immigration law will have to change when we leave the EU' but stress their priorities are economic stability and protecting people; it's not projecting anything to suggest that Labour is very, very open to soft Brexit. Oh dear me posted:But it does not have control over the EU's policy on free movement. 'Freedom of movement will end' for British citizens. I think this is very obviously phrased deliberately to avoid commitment (and postpone the need for shadow cabinet unanimity). LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 11:55 on May 28, 2017 |
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May 28, 2017 11:48
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Looks like the Tories may be doing enough to undo the damage of that dementia tax farce https://twitter.com/election_data/status/868780090980749312
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May 28, 2017 11:48
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May 28, 2017 11:49
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Diane Abbott seems to have learned how to do politics from watching Armando Iannucci shows To be fair this is modern politics.txt
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Flaps I have some questions about your YouTube channel, mostly around why you have a channel dedicated to attacking Labour
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Namtab posted:Learn your history, she's right. I thought white people played dominos or trivial pursuit I'll have to look in WHSmith or Toymaster for Divide and Rule
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Namtab posted:Flaps I have some questions about your YouTube channel, mostly around why you have a channel dedicated to attacking Labour I don't have a YouTube channel but I'm eager to see the one you're going to pretend is mine so lets have a link?
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Pissflaps posted:I don't have a YouTube channel but I'm eager to see the one you're going to pretend is mine so lets have a link? 
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:I thought white people played dominos or trivial pursuit Is it hard for you to post in good faith?
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Not So Fast posted:It's the kind of thing that you can say fine in this thread, but saying as an elected politician will piss voters off. This is more a problem with political discourse than Diane Abbot. Which doesn't absolve her of the need for a good Tuckering every time she goes near a camera, I just think "is terrible at interviews" is pretty lame criticism when there are other politicians you could describe as things like "is deranged ego-maniac obsessed with historical trivia" or "hates poor people on a very personal level".
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forkboy84 posted:He really is the worst. Good to hear people, like him, were sent there to uphold the peace.
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