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fishmech posted:Which isn't caused by that. Christ, tons of the world doesn't even drink milk. The allure of lactose is too great, and it is why kids in Brazil are fat
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namaste faggots posted:Lol o rly Oh no, someone filed a lawsuit! I know exactly what it's capable of, since I've been using it for two years. I haven't seen reports of anything that works better, but I'm happy to hear of your comparative experiences. Tesla wasn't the company advertising a car as autonomous, that was Mercedes. But also: quote:I got it because I wanted an electric toy, though. I like my toy. I bet you'd like it too. If you find yourself in Toronto you can take it for a spin.
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Subjunctive posted:the best autopilot in the business Just because they call it "autopilot" doesn't make it one. Please don't let lanekeeping drive you into a semi while you watch "Harry Potter" because you've let marketing convince you to think of it as something it's not.
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eschaton posted:Just because they call it "autopilot" doesn't make it one. It makes it very similar to aircraft autopilots, doesn't it? But no, marketing hasn't convinced me of anything. Autopilot didn't exist when I bought my first one. I have years of experience with the limitations of the system, I use it safely and attentively. E: exactly as it tells you literally every time you use it, in fact. EE: let's not do the autonomous car derail. To directly respond to the question that was asked, my experience with autopilot contributed to me buying a Tesla again when I moved to Canada. Subjunctive fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Apr 21, 2017 |
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Coming back to the Juicero trainwreck, because it's a story that keeps on giving:quote:Juice wars: Juicero has sued another juicer maker for patent infringement So basically it's a copy of the device minus the DRM ink-cartridge bag requirement. If you really had to juice, this would be a better way to do it for sure.
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I dunno maybe it's bumped him up the guillotine waiting list
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Juicero claims that Juisir, developed by Chinese company iTaste and marketed and imported with the help of Australian company Froothie
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namaste faggots posted:I dunno maybe it's bumped him up the guillotine waiting list If you're looking to deploy guillotines, you could do worse than starting at Superchargers.
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mobby_6kl posted:Coming back to the Juicero trainwreck, because it's a story that keeps on giving: Oh poo poo 8 tons of force thats more than double the juicero let me get out my checkbook
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double post like two identical bag juicers
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poisonpill posted:Oh poo poo 8 tons of force thats more than double the juicero let me get out my checkbook e; it was better with the double post
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Thou shalt not discuss self driving cars in the unicorns thread, lest thou invite a 20+ page derail.
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Baby Babbeh posted:Thou shalt not discuss self driving cars in the unicorns thread, lest thou invite a 20+ page derail. It was but a glancing blow.
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namaste faggots posted:I dunno maybe it's bumped him up the guillotine waiting list Come the revolution, everybody in this thread is first against the wall.
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They could partner with Uber to put Juiceros in the self-driving cars.
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cowofwar posted:Oh yeah get me on those chinese juice bags That's the thing, the Chinese one lets you just dump your own produce in, so you don't have to rely on them to have good produce.
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how are people hating on the only new competition into the u.s. car industry? loving TESLA YOU ARENT FORD OR DODGE OR GM!!!!!!
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fishmech posted:That's the thing, the Chinese one lets you just dump your own produce in, so you don't have to rely on them to have good produce. So it's just better?
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roymorrison posted:how are people hating on the only new competition into the u.s. car industry? loving TESLA YOU ARENT FORD OR DODGE OR GM!!!!!! Also find this weird. The people who hate Tesla are usually guys who deny global warming, "Aww, you want to save the poor polar bears?" while drinking a pint of gasoline; but there's a new wing of far-left who roll Elon in with the Bernie bros and hate Tesla on some weird principle.
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poisonpill posted:Also find this weird. The people who hate Tesla are usually guys who deny global warming, "Aww, you want to save the poor polar bears?" while drinking a pint of gasoline; but there's a new wing of far-left who roll Elon in with the Bernie bros and hate Tesla on some weird principle. why do you think the left (outside of his thoughts of climate change) would love Elon Musk or Tesla, a luxury car company?
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TheBalor posted:So it's just better? Well it does cost more. But it's only a few hundred and if you were going to seriously use it versus the Juciero the Juicero costs tons more money for their juice packs even over like a month. roymorrison posted:how are people hating on the only new competition into the u.s. car industry? Because their cars are bad, with apparently lousy quality control? Also lol at worshiping competition like some kinda moron.
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poisonpill posted:Also find this weird. The people who hate Tesla are usually guys who deny global warming, "Aww, you want to save the poor polar bears?" while drinking a pint of gasoline; but there's a new wing of far-left who roll Elon in with the Bernie bros and hate Tesla on some weird principle. Yea, gee, I wonder why the far left hates the tech bros, who are literally the modern day version of robber barons. 
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fishmech posted:Well it does cost more. But it's only a few hundred and if you were going to seriously use it versus the Juciero the Juicero costs tons more money for their juice packs even over like a month. why are you just assuming i'm worshiping competition. its an electric car that drives itself and people are talking about it in the thread for making fun of dumb tech poo poo a mass produced electric self driving car. its literally the loving future lmao and people are comparing it to a dumb juicer
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roymorrison posted:why are you just assuming i'm worshiping competition. It's because both companies are making wild promises, one of them is just a bit more useful than the other.
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If you want to talk bad american electric car companies you should talk about Fisker imo. Does it even still exist? fake edit: just checked and I guess it was bought by a Chinese firm that says a new version of the Karma is coming out any day now. So no.
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roymorrison posted:why are you just assuming i'm worshiping competition. Because you wrote roymorrison posted:how are people hating on the only new competition into the u.s. car industry? Did you forget that? roymorrison posted:its an electric car that drives itself and people are talking about it in the thread for making fun of dumb tech poo poo There's tons of other electric cars, and it doesn't really drive itself. If you try to treat it as if it does drive itself, it crashes into poo poo or your head gets lopped off by a passing tractor trailer. I guess you're just easily impressed?
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fishmech posted:Because you wrote
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WrenP-Complete posted:Deploy guillotines on fruit and vegetables, in my opinion. No, that'd effectively chop them. Too good for this thread.
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roymorrison posted:so are you not impressed by self driving electric vehicles? i'm impressed that a newcomer was able to churn out something totally different in a pretty closed market, yeah. I mean it's no delorean i guess No, I'm not impressed by cars where when people try to leave them to self-drive, they crash into things or get you decapitated. Most people would consider that a bad outcome. Also Tesla has been in business for 14 years, that's quite a while. And what exactly is supposed to be pretty different about "expensive electric car" in your mind?
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fishmech posted:No, I'm not impressed by cars where when people try to leave them to self-drive, they crash into things or get you decapitated. Most people would consider that a bad outcome. I didn't know it's been 14 years, but mostly the self driving features, I think the cars perform as well or better than any other electric vehicles on the market. They certainly look better. The ability to drive itself is the icing on the cake. No other companies that I know of are as far along with that as Tesla. I really think you're reaching here fishmech. Is the model 3 overpriced? expensive compared to what? what kind of car do you drive? would you trade it for an electric car with 0 emissions that can drive itself? I'm not saying that's what a tesla is, I'm just saying that I'm impressed that someone is trying to do that.
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roymorrison posted:I didn't know it's been 14 years, but mostly the self driving features, I think the cars perform as well or better than any other electric vehicles on the market. They certainly look better. The ability to drive itself is the icing on the cake. No other companies that I know of are as far along with that as Tesla. Lexus, BMW, Mercedes, all brands that have similar "self-driving" capability in their similarly expensive cars, at about the same time Tesla added it. But once again it's not real self driving because if you rely on it the car will crash or crash and kill you. The Model 3 does not actually exist in production yet. It's also expensive compared to Chevy's new Bolt, which came out months ago, and is of higher build quality than what Tesla is promising. I drive rentals now on the rare occasions I need to drive, since my old Taurus finally broke. Also you're pretty loving naive if you think Tesla is the only company that's been trying to make electric cars that drive themselves. That's something that car manufacturers have been trying to figure out since the 1930s, and nobody's really figured it out yet.
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fishmech posted:No, I'm not impressed by cars where when people try to leave them to self-drive, they crash into things or get you decapitated. Most people would consider that a bad outcome. Tesla's autopilot feature has ample warnings about how it should not be left unattended. Like, the thing will start to slow down the car if you take your hands off the steering wheel for more than 30 seconds or something, and there is noticeable audio alerts as well. If you keep ignoring the warnings, the feature will turn off until you park the car. Seriously, aside from like one or two incidents, all the accidents Tesla drivers have gotten into while using auto pilot were the driver's fault. All of these cases have been well-documented by both Tesla and various investigating agencies.
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Tesla's self driving programming is a tier below the leaders and probably on par with auto companies like Benz. I'll give them credit for making EVs sexy but not doing something revolutionary. from a sales standpoint, Musk is targeting 500K sales in 2018, they made 70K last year. And Tesla absolutely falls into the category of a lovely tech company - exhibit 1. Management doing its absolute best to prevent its workers from unionising.
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roymorrison posted:I didn't know it's been 14 years, but mostly the self driving features, I think the cars perform as well or better than any other electric vehicles on the market. They certainly look better. The ability to drive itself is the icing on the cake. No other companies that I know of are as far along with that as Tesla. Zero emissions? Do the research on carbon emissions per mile for your specific energy market. If there any large portion of coal still, it's unlikely an electric car will vastly outperform a hybrid. It may win, but it'll be surprisingly close. General electric vehicle adoption really needs an overhaul of our whole power grid to be worth it.
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enraged_camel posted:Tesla's autopilot feature has ample warnings about how it should not be left unattended. Like, the thing will start to slow down the car if you take your hands off the steering wheel for more than 30 seconds or something, and there is noticeable audio alerts as well. If you keep ignoring the warnings, the feature will turn off until you park the car. That's my point: it doesn't really self-drive, and if you try to use it as if it does you're going to have problems. So it's a bit weird for roymorrison to act like they've done something amazing by having it. Karia posted:Zero emissions? Do the research on carbon emissions per mile for your specific energy market. If there any large portion of coal still, it's unlikely an electric car will vastly outperform a hybrid. It may win, but it'll be surprisingly close. General electric vehicle adoption really needs an overhaul of our whole power grid to be worth it. Even all coal power would have significantly less total emissions than a hybrid, and America's power grid is down to just 1/3 coal anyway. Legally all electric vehicles are classified as zero emissions anyway, as they have no local emissions.
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