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mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

Haggins posted:

I don't need to explain my hipster bigotry :colbert:



I now present noted hipster extraordinaire, Bill Nye The Science Guy.



Kai is a goofy nerd and makes no attempts to be anything else. Labeling people hipsters is dumb. "Hating" someone because of an arbitrary label is dumb.

rio posted:

Laurent Schwebel was stabbed and killed and his camera stolen while taking pictures in Buenos Aires. :smith: loving ridiculous.

Jesus. He was in a touristy area and in daylight and everything. People saw it happen. What a tragedy.

mr. mephistopheles fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Feb 13, 2013

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HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.
Kai is just a fashionable man in a fashionable city. Even he mocks hipsters from time to time.

David Pratt
Apr 21, 2001
gently caress arguing about what it is and isn't, I just cannot wait for the word to go away.

SoundMonkey
Apr 22, 2006

I just push buttons.


Thank you Haggins et. al, this poo poo's annoying enough that I refer you to the newly minted Dorkroom Rule 18, which can be found in the should-be-checked-frequently rules thread:

18. In this day and age, the term 'hipster' is not representative of any specific cultural group, manner of dress, or style of photography. As such, using it as a blanket term is really stupid and you really shouldn't do it.

Musket
Mar 19, 2008

Haggins posted:

I don't need to explain my hipster bigotry :colbert:



Not putting two and two together yet. Define HipsterI MEAN WORD WE CANT SAY NOW RULE 18 please.

I dont like Kai. Not because I think hes some lovely RULE 18, because he made a pink D90. Hate the playa, not the game Haggins.

Haggins
Jul 1, 2004

Sorry, I'm not very scientific in categorizing groups of people I don't like.

geeves
Sep 16, 2004

rio posted:

Laurent Schwebel was stabbed and killed and his camera stolen while taking pictures in Buenos Aires. :smith: loving ridiculous.

That really awful. According to one site, he was probably targeted in an area increasingly known for robberies.

http://www.argentinaindependent.com/currentaffairs/newsfromargentina/french-tourist-killed-in-plaza-san-martin/

SoundMonkey
Apr 22, 2006

I just push buttons.


Haggins posted:

Sorry, I'm not very scientific in categorizing groups of people I don't like.

"I hate his dumb loving glasses", "I hate his stupid bowtie", and "What kind of rear end in a top hat paints a D90 pink" are all still perfectly acceptable.

MrBlandAverage
Jul 2, 2003

GNNAAAARRRR

Haggins posted:

Sorry, I'm not very scientific in categorizing groups of people I don't like.

Here's a list of groups of people I don't like:

- Posters named "Haggins"

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

rio
Mar 20, 2008

geeves posted:

That really awful. According to one site, he was probably targeted in an area increasingly known for robberies.

http://www.argentinaindependent.com/currentaffairs/newsfromargentina/french-tourist-killed-in-plaza-san-martin/

quote:

French Tourist Killed in Plaza San Martín

They really couldn't think of a better or more appropriate headline?

Demon_Corsair
Mar 22, 2004

Goodbye stealing souls, hello stealing booty.

Spedman posted:

I must say I'm a big fan of the Film Photography Podcast, it's a bit goofy but a lot of fun every two weeks.

I keep trying to listen to that because they get interesting guests, but the constant sound effects and shilling for their store means I usually make it 15 minutes before shutting it off.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

SoundMonkey posted:

18. In this day and age, the term 'hipster' is not representative of any specific cultural group, manner of dress, or style of photography. As such, using it as a blanket term is really stupid and you really shouldn't do it.

I wish this was a forum-wide rule. Thank you.

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

It's so close, yet so far. :smith:

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads

Demon_Corsair posted:

I keep trying to listen to that because they get interesting guests, but the constant sound effects and shilling for their store means I usually make it 15 minutes before shutting it off.

It's one of those things that you either find loving annoying or you've listened to the podcast long enough you know where those stupid sound effects come from and find them mildly amusing. If you're going to try again listen to the early ones where it's a far more subdued, and there is next to no shilling (that's really starting to give me the shits TBH).

psylent
Nov 29, 2000

Pillbug
Steering the conversation away from defining hipsters, let's talk about Michelle Jenneke's SI shoot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gtk_vTsLtI

I'm really surprised at just how terrible these photos are considering it's Sports Illustrated.

Here are the photos



If you don't know who she is, this is what catapulted her to fame in 2012:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr5DouXRv0k

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

They're not so much terrible as they are painfully mediocre. I mean I guess relative to the level of photography they should represent they are terrible, but they're competent enough.

dakana
Aug 28, 2006
So I packed up my Salvador Dali print of two blindfolded dental hygienists trying to make a circle on an Etch-a-Sketch and headed for California.

psylent posted:

Steering the conversation away from defining hipsters, let's talk about Michelle Jenneke's SI shoot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gtk_vTsLtI

I'm really surprised at just how terrible these photos are considering it's Sports Illustrated.

Here are the photos



If you don't know who she is, this is what catapulted her to fame in 2012:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr5DouXRv0k

Those are amazingly bland. And the dude isn't even holding the camera right.

Bob Socko
Feb 20, 2001

Hell yeah, I'm good enough to be an SI shooter!

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

I just looked at the video and goddamn they could have done some cool photos with the natural light in that first location.

squidflakes
Aug 27, 2009


SHORTBUS

mr. mephistopheles posted:

They're not so much terrible as they are painfully mediocre.

With all of the D&B and smoothing they did on her skin, you'd think they could have taken an hour or so to touch up the backgrounds, or alternately, not shot against something so reflective.

Haggins
Jul 1, 2004

mr. mephistopheles posted:

They're not so much terrible as they are painfully mediocre. I mean I guess relative to the level of photography they should represent they are terrible, but they're competent enough.

Yeah, I agree. Probably good enough for the local swimsuit store's penny saver ad. You'd think SI would have some playboy quality shots.

Speaking of Glamor photography, can anyone recommend any good photographers to check out?

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc
Sports "jesus loving christ, could you not get one horizon straight" Illustrated

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine
Those look just as bland as any other SI/Maxim/"lad mag" type photos I've ever seen.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
It looks like their "location" was a cheap studio hotel room.

Seriously, I don't think I've ever seen professional portrait photos that look so cramped.

SoundMonkey
Apr 22, 2006

I just push buttons.


Reichstag posted:

Those look just as bland as any other SI/Maxim/"lad mag" type photos I've ever seen.

Yep. Being furiously cut out and affixed to the inside of lockers as we speak.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Haggins posted:

some playboy quality shots.
hehehehehehe

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?
Wow. Lets send you a naturally beautiful woman to shoot. The direction? Umm i dunno make her look hot. An easy soft ball.

This is on the level of like lovely russian porn because there was only about 1 photo where shes doesn't look uncomfortable or like her head is detached from her body. gently caress that photographer ... I could have shot that better with a camera phone from a droid Razer. What a waste of model.

East Lake
Sep 13, 2007

The skin bothers me more than anything. They don't need to make these women as smooth as a mannequin. Yuck.

psylent
Nov 29, 2000

Pillbug

mr. mephistopheles posted:

They're not so much terrible as they are painfully mediocre. I mean I guess relative to the level of photography they should represent they are terrible, but they're competent enough.
Exactly what I meant.

If some random dude on the forums posted these they wouldn't be trashed, but people here would give him a long list of things he could have done better. You'd expect a lot better from SI.

SoundMonkey
Apr 22, 2006

I just push buttons.


psylent posted:

You'd expect a lot better from SI.

I know for an absolute fact that more than a few pretty terrible photographers work for SI. It's not like they're aiming to be the NatGeo of football and breasts.

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

SoundMonkey posted:

I know for an absolute fact that more than a few pretty terrible photographers work for SI. It's not like they're aiming to be the NatGeo of football and breasts.

Natgeo is already the Natgeo of breasts, did your elementary school not have a ton of back issues that were basically all tribal titty all the time? ... Yeah, mine totally didn't either. :ninja:

SoundMonkey
Apr 22, 2006

I just push buttons.


8th-samurai posted:

Natgeo is already the Natgeo of breasts, did your elementary school not have a ton of back issues that were basically all tribal titty all the time? ... Yeah, mine totally didn't either. :ninja:

I think somehow they got called out on that eventually, whenever I got to the dentist and flip through NatGeo (the other option being Cosmo usually), it's mostly reports about delightful spots on various coastlines.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I think it's more that no one cares about starving third world countries anymore, so it's not really a topical thing for natgeo to constantly document.

That was kind of "the thing" back in the 80's and 90's.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
Speaking of National Geographic, the other thing I remember about them from back in the day (and from seeing issues from back in the day more recently) is the advertising. NatGeo seemed to contain two kinds of ads - car ads and camera ads. Most of the camera ads, at least that stand out in my mind, were "Wildlife as Canon Sees It"; a quick google search to confirm the wording reveals they are still running this campaign.

Anyway, I was always impressed by the quality of photos published in NatGeo, including in the Canon ads (the car ads, on the other hand, are simply hilarious now). Does anyone know how much it might cost these days to get one of the camera outfits pictured? I'm thinking of the FD bodies in ads in the early 80's, and the big-rear end telephoto lenses. I'd guess the bodies can be picked up relatively cheaply - maybe $200 (?) for a good-condition, top-of-the-line A1 or whatever the most professional body of the era was - but the lenses would still command a premium, despite the lack of autofocus and the obsolete mount.

Recent NatGeo photos I've seen have, to my eye, gone a bit overboard on very wide angle shots. An extremely wide, distorted (but not fisheye) view seems to be what they're going for these days.

bobmarleysghost
Mar 7, 2006



This is the camera you seek http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_New_F-1

Dread Head
Aug 1, 2005

0-#01

ExecuDork posted:

Speaking of National Geographic, the other thing I remember about them from back in the day (and from seeing issues from back in the day more recently) is the advertising. NatGeo seemed to contain two kinds of ads - car ads and camera ads. Most of the camera ads, at least that stand out in my mind, were "Wildlife as Canon Sees It"; a quick google search to confirm the wording reveals they are still running this campaign.

Anyway, I was always impressed by the quality of photos published in NatGeo, including in the Canon ads (the car ads, on the other hand, are simply hilarious now). Does anyone know how much it might cost these days to get one of the camera outfits pictured? I'm thinking of the FD bodies in ads in the early 80's, and the big-rear end telephoto lenses. I'd guess the bodies can be picked up relatively cheaply - maybe $200 (?) for a good-condition, top-of-the-line A1 or whatever the most professional body of the era was - but the lenses would still command a premium, despite the lack of autofocus and the obsolete mount.

Recent NatGeo photos I've seen have, to my eye, gone a bit overboard on very wide angle shots. An extremely wide, distorted (but not fisheye) view seems to be what they're going for these days.

One of my friends co-workers just had one of his photos used in one of those Canon ads you are talking about. I dont think it is the best picture but still cool!

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

psylent posted:

Steering the conversation away from defining hipsters, let's talk about Michelle Jenneke's SI shoot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gtk_vTsLtI

I'm really surprised at just how terrible these photos are considering it's Sports Illustrated.

Here are the photos



If you don't know who she is, this is what catapulted her to fame in 2012:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr5DouXRv0k

Sports Illustrated don't know how to shoot women. Case in point Kate Upton's "bodypaint" shoot in the current/upcoming issue. Take a girl that's been on the cover of every major Vogue in the past few months and do a model mayhem shoot. Any decent swimwear lookbook/campaign practically destroys the SI Swimsuit edition.

I'd be slightly more inclined to blame the magazine than the photographer with the Jenneke shoot. Sometimes publications do post production in-house. I've been on plenty of great shoots ruined between delivery and publication.

squidflakes
Aug 27, 2009


SHORTBUS

Paragon8 posted:

I'd be slightly more inclined to blame the magazine than the photographer with the Jenneke shoot.

I think the blame can be shared equally. Everything I see in those pictures is a gently caress-up that I've worked really hard to correct and will get a shot thrown out during my own work flow, and I'm just some shitheel that takes pictures of purdy tattoo girlies.

What really gets me is that SI Swimsuit Issue shoots used to be the brass ring of glossy magazine photography. I remember being excited for months in advance, and once I got all of my crazy monkey teenage masturbation out of the way, the technical and artistic quality of the photos would keep me interested a lot longer than the bikini. Hell, even their locations would be tremendously exotic and beautiful, not the bathroom at some hotel in California.

squidflakes fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Feb 14, 2013

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

squidflakes posted:

I think the blame can be shared equally. Everything I see in those pictures is a gently caress-up that I've worked really hard to correct and will get a shot thrown out during my own work flow, and I'm just some shitheel that takes pictures of purdy tattoo girlies.

What really gets me is that SI Swimsuit Issue shoots used to be the brass ring of glossy magazine photography. I remember being excited for months in advance, and once I got all of my crazy monkey teenage masturbation out of the way, the technical and artistic quality of the photos would keep me interested a lot longer than the bikini. Hell, even their locations would be tremendously exotic and beautiful, not the bathroom at some hotel in California.

http://jamesmacari.com/ this is the photographer that shot it. NSFW for fashion nudity

It actually makes me a little angry because I didn't expect him to be that good when I googled who shot the shoot.


Paragon8 fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Feb 14, 2013

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Musket
Mar 19, 2008

SoundMonkey posted:

I know for an absolute fact that more than a few pretty terrible photographers work for SI. It's not like they're aiming to be the NatGeo of football and breasts.

Yea its pretty LOL just how many terrible photographers SI employs. They must scout out Art Institute of CITY NAME for talent, or our SAD forum.

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