|
TheMadMilkman posted:During training he would rent a car for the day instead of taking public transit to get anywhere, because transit was socialist. Let me guess, he probably requested government reimbursement for the rental too, right? Because that's exactly the type of galaxy brain I'm envisioning here. It amazes me how anyone who doesn't believe government should exist work in the bureaucracy.
|
#
?
Aug 13, 2022 18:34
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 16:53 |
|
|
Quote != Edit
|
|
#
?
Aug 13, 2022 18:35
|
|
|
Wait, am I the only one here whose job is grift and fraud?
|
|
#
?
Aug 13, 2022 18:49
|
|
|
dublish posted:Wait, am I the only one here whose job is grift and fraud? No I also am a DoD employee.
|
|
#
?
Aug 13, 2022 18:52
|
|
|
dublish posted:Wait, am I the only one here whose job is grift and fraud? You should see how contract awarding works.
|
|
#
?
Aug 13, 2022 20:34
|
|
|
dublish posted:Wait, am I the only one here whose job is grift and fraud? I mean, most people here worked for the Trump admin
|
|
#
?
Aug 13, 2022 23:06
|
|
|
Endless Mike posted:I mean, most people here worked for the Trump admin It fell under "other duties as assigned" in my performance evals then.
|
|
#
?
Aug 13, 2022 23:07
|
|
|
My boss has made clear that a 14 that's being posted on the other team within our unit is to target folks within our agency and not within our unit (me). I get that he's trying to increase the overall FTE for the unit and that he gains nothing if I just transfer teams within the unit to get my 14. With that said, I'm the only 13 in my unit. Everyone else is a 14 or 15. I joined the unit a year ago and boss recently told me I was doing an excellent job during my midpoint. I've been a 13 for a few years in a prior role. My boss dislikes doing personnel type work and he's retiring soon. He told me during the midpoint that he's sure the next supervisor will help me get my 14. I feel like the right move is to apply to this job, right? Put the burden on them to show why someone else with less direct experience should get it over me? Should I also request the position description for GS-14 within my office to see what the difference is between a 13 and 14? It's never been explained to me and my understanding is that I carry the same case load and level of responsibility as my colleagues. I'm applying to other 14s as well but I really like the work and was hoping to spend the next 30 years here.
|
|
#
?
Aug 15, 2022 21:25
|
|
|
gently caress that person and apply. Then apply everywhere else for your 14 too. You can't pay bills with promises and predictions.
|
|
#
?
Aug 15, 2022 22:35
|
|
|
Apply. Saying “the next guy will take care of you” is the epitome of an empty promise.
|
|
#
?
Aug 15, 2022 22:55
|
|
|
laxbro posted:My boss has made clear that a 14 that's being posted on the other team within our unit is to target folks within our agency and not within our unit (me). I get that he's trying to increase the overall FTE for the unit and that he gains nothing if I just transfer teams within the unit to get my 14. Always apply (this goes for everyone). You have literally nothing to lose but your time.
|
|
#
?
Aug 15, 2022 23:23
|
|
|
Yeah even if a supervisor tells you that (s)he is going to help develop you to get to the next level it can still fall through, let alone saying the next person is totally gonna be on it
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2022 05:21
|
|
|
Apply apply apply. This shouldn't even be a question.
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2022 14:50
|
|
|
CheshireCat posted:Passed my polygraph three months ago and I’m still waiting for the NGA to move on to the next step. 
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2022 17:42
|
|
|
Today is my first day of OJI and I am training on screening calls and procedure calls. I have more than once put my hands over my mouth and looked up at the corner of the ceiling and said to myself while I listen to calls with my trainer, "Oh my god, what have I gotten myself into?"
|
|
#
?
Aug 18, 2022 20:19
|
|
|
I say that too and I'm at 31 years of service this month.
|
|
#
?
Aug 19, 2022 00:37
|
|
Star Man posted:Today is my first day of OJI and I am training on screening calls and procedure calls. Yeah that doesn't really stop, sorry. But the calls are never boring! 
|
|
|
#
?
Aug 19, 2022 01:28
|
|
|
Yeah, you're always going to get bizarre cases at the IRS, although you'll develop a better sense of the common variations over time. Turns out taxes are kind of complicated!
|
|
#
?
Aug 19, 2022 02:50
|
|
|
Star Man posted:Today is my first day of OJI and I am training on screening calls and procedure calls. The chance to put in the minimum required time before applying for other positions as an internal hire.
|
|
#
?
Aug 19, 2022 03:00
|
|
|
TheMadMilkman posted:The chance to put in the minimum required time before applying for other positions as an internal hire. That's really been the goal since I accepted the offer.
|
|
#
?
Aug 19, 2022 03:11
|
|
|
I'm...not sure the TCO program even still exists. it's noticeably absent from hiring cattle calls when I check.
|
|
#
?
Aug 19, 2022 04:36
|
|
|
If they don't end up awarding a contract to perform the study to Intuit, the people who will write the recommendations five years from now will be bribed by Intuit to determine that the IRS cannot create a tax filing scheme that is competitive with the offerings available in the market. If that somehow doesn't happen then Intuit's bought and paid for legislators will simply not provide funding to the IRS to implement a new scheme.
|
|
#
?
Aug 19, 2022 05:18
|
|
|
Evil SpongeBob posted:I say that too and I'm at 31 years of service this month. retire, bithach
|
|
#
?
Aug 19, 2022 07:17
|
|
|
Discendo Vox posted:I'm...not sure the TCO program even still exists. it's noticeably absent from hiring cattle calls when I check. It exists, they were still hiring TCOs as of last year and we have a few new TCOs in my office.
|
|
#
?
Aug 19, 2022 08:25
|
|
|
ixo posted:retire, bithach I'm eligible next summer and I'll be out the month I hit it.
|
|
#
?
Aug 19, 2022 12:26
|
|
|
LyonsLions posted:It exists, they were still hiring TCOs as of last year and we have a few new TCOs in my office. I stand corrected!
|
|
#
?
Aug 19, 2022 14:41
|
|
|
I got to field more calls this afternoon. This is really hard. Probably because I'm a gigantic fuckin baby and don't deal with stress well, but I still have a headache and my shoulders and arms are still tense. I know I frustrated my trainer more than once because I just get everything scrambled even after we rehearse it and I have dictated to me what to say. I don't care if it's only my second day of it, I just don't feel good about it. ugh. I had a dream the other day where Bernie Sanders tolde to eat more scrambled eggs. I should listen to him, maybe settle me down until I find a way out of talking to taxpayers over the phone.
|
|
#
?
Aug 19, 2022 22:24
|
|
|
Don't worry about it; just stay calm and do your best. It's your second day! These jobs all have learning curves, and you've got the additional stress of customer service on top of it. Everything you describe sounds like you're doing fine and just need practice and time to get comfortable.
|
|
#
?
Aug 19, 2022 23:08
|
|
|
Star Man posted:I got to field more calls this afternoon. 
|
|
#
?
Aug 19, 2022 23:17
|
|
|
Posting just to say that sf-86 can go to hell. I will likely be cleared for the position I was hired for in early spring, but the glacial pace and ambiguity is awful. I could handle it for the first 4 months, but it's beginning to wear me down and I have at least a dozen weeks before I'll know. I don't mean to sound ungrateful. I'm incredibly fortunate to be considered for the position, but I've never gone through the ringer like this before. I understand the need for security screening and background checks, but the process has me dredging through and telling strangers and agents about traumatic experiences from twenty years ago. Now I'm sweating if the "whole person concept" is as compassionate as they want to make it seem. Just needed to vent in case anyone can relate.
|
|
#
?
Aug 20, 2022 00:11
|
|
Star Man posted:I got to field more calls this afternoon. Scrambled eggs are good and full of protein. Protein's a serious fuel, your mind and body don't run well without it and god drat do you need your mind for this poo poo. For the scrambling of your mind, having a script you can read down is the fix I like and unlike face-to-face you don't have to control your whole self perfectly, just your voice. In fact one of the very best parts of this being a phone conversation is that you have a natural way to pause poo poo while you figure out how to script the next part of the conversation (don't overdo this obviously, but it has made dealing with insane left field shots lots easier for me). It's only the second day. Some days it's hard to feel good doing this even with years of experience, and it is a long road to getting good at all the skills you use for this. Get lots of rest over the weekend.
|
|
|
#
?
Aug 20, 2022 00:14
|
|
|
Leon Sumbitches posted:Posting just to say that sf-86 can go to hell. I will likely be cleared for the position I was hired for in early spring, but the glacial pace and ambiguity is awful. I could handle it for the first 4 months, but it's beginning to wear me down and I have at least a dozen weeks before I'll know. Sounds like you may just be giving them more info than required? You only have to tell them about questions and timeframes specifically outlined in the 86, they can ask wtvr the gently caress they like, you can also tell them to shove it. Ofc recommended doing so in a professional manner.
|
|
#
?
Aug 20, 2022 01:16
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Aug 20, 2022 04:05
|
|
|
Rakeris posted:Sounds like you may just be giving them more info than required? You only have to tell them about questions and timeframes specifically outlined in the 86, they can ask wtvr the gently caress they like, you can also tell them to shove it. Ofc recommended doing so in a professional manner. Wish that were the case. Most questions are time limited, but a few are "have you ever" and one of those is the friction point. It'll work out in the end, and I'll absolutely limit my answers to what I've disclosed.
|
|
#
?
Aug 20, 2022 14:23
|
|
|
Leon Sumbitches posted:Posting just to say that sf-86 can go to hell. I will likely be cleared for the position I was hired for in early spring, but the glacial pace and ambiguity is awful. I could handle it for the first 4 months, but it's beginning to wear me down and I have at least a dozen weeks before I'll know. I'm so sorry, that sounds awful. I'm in the same boat with the SF-86 (going through a background check for a future job), and it's honestly difficult enough just trying to remember things from that long ago. I can't imagine compounding it with traumatic events. Hopefully it'll all work out in the end.
|
|
#
?
Aug 20, 2022 15:29
|
|
|
My last clearance investigation was awful because they took 2 years from filing my SF-86 to actually performing the investigation. In the intervening time I had gotten married, taken a honeymoon to Cambodia, and reconnected with my college friend from St. Petersburg Russia. When the investigator first contacted me he basically had to start over from scratch because of how old the SF-86 was and he was very unhappy about it. The initial was really hilarious. At the time they had a question worded so that you had to list everyone who lived in the same house as you and they had to follow up on all those people. I lived in a fraternity house with over 30 guys. That investigator was upset until we offered to set him up a desk in a spare room and to file everyone through in one night. He interviewed everybody in about an hour. I had an acquaintance who put me down as a reference and was into a lot of weird group sex/age play poo poo. Still got his clearance because I made it clear that he was open and honest about it; not something that you could blackmail him about. I've known Navy guys with TS after multiple DUIs and bankruptcies. Always try to keep your nose clean but realize that these investigators have heard everything. They are looking for things that can allow people to get leverage over you, not bad things that you've done.
|
|
#
?
Aug 20, 2022 22:43
|
|
|
Discendo Vox posted:I'm...not sure the TCO program even still exists. it's noticeably absent from hiring cattle calls when I check. I think there's fewer than there used to be but there is still an Office Exam function. It's also called Tax Specialist instead of TCO I believe but the same GS 0526 5-11
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 14:55
|
|
|
Leviathan Song posted:My last clearance investigation was awful because they took 2 years from filing my SF-86 to actually performing the investigation. In the intervening time I had gotten married, taken a honeymoon to Cambodia, and reconnected with my college friend from St. Petersburg Russia. When the investigator first contacted me he basically had to start over from scratch because of how old the SF-86 was and he was very unhappy about it. Thanks for this; very helpful to remember it's not a criminal investigation but one to ensure there's no leverage over me. The main concern is a mental health misdiagnosis from way back when, and I have letters and doctors on standby to confirm. I've spoken with a clearance attorney about my situation, and they feel confident I'll get through. My supervisor has somehow gotten my screening in the priority line, meaning another 2.5 months. It's going to be ok, but absolutely the most stressful job onboarding process I've gone through. It seems like getting security clearance is a huge 'get' for future federal employment. Is that correct?
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 17:42
|
|
|
Leviathan Song posted:My last clearance investigation was awful because they took 2 years from filing my SF-86 to actually performing the investigation. In the intervening time I had gotten married, taken a honeymoon to Cambodia, and reconnected with my college friend from St. Petersburg Russia. When the investigator first contacted me he basically had to start over from scratch because of how old the SF-86 was and he was very unhappy about it. I want to echo Leon Sumbitches in saying that this was very helpful to read, thank you! Leon Sumbitches posted:It seems like getting security clearance is a huge 'get' for future federal employment. Is that correct? This might be a case of the blind leading the blind (I'm in the same boat you're in, after all!), but I have heard that it is. Not everybody gets it and it's a time consuming process, so if nothing else, it'll help expedite things for some potential future ventures. And I know of at least one job seeking site for individuals with security clearance, which is pretty cool at the very least!
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 20:10
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 16:53 |
|
|
Sitting around in a SCIF all day blows. Just remember that. Especially if the café closes at 1PM. Not mad at all...
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 22:20
|
|