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McCloud posted:Just curious, what happened to the other X-men, and what continuity is this? If it's the old one where Sentinels purged the mutants I'm kinda fine with it, but if the second future is hosed up as well I'd be slightly peeved. This all takes place before the movie, but I'm going to consider it a bit of a big spoiler since we find out hints and pieces of it throughout the film. At some point, scientists were able to figure out a way to prevent mutant births. With no new mutants being created, the Reavers were put together to wipe out the existing mutants around the world. Presumably, the X-Men were the last line of defense and the final haven for any surviving mutants. A year before the events of the film, Xavier -- who is at least 90 -- went into an epileptic seizure at the mansion. The episode took out everyone in the vicinity mentally, meaning Xavier's old age had all but finished off the mutant genocide. Logan took Xavier and hid him away in Mexico, where he's looked over by Caliban, an albino who wants to redeem himself for aiding the Reavers as a tracker. Xavier suffers dementia and Logan regularly medicates him to keep him from enduring more seizures.
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Feb 20, 2017 17:58
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That's only slightly less depressing than what happens in Old Man Logan. I'm worried Laura is going to be a great character with lots of potential but because she's in what seems to be a stand alone film, she'll never make it to the main continuity. Though considering Singer doesn't have any interest in any X-men that were not in SIlver or Bronze age comics it seems, that was unlikely anyways.
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Gavok posted:This all takes place before the movie, but I'm going to consider it a bit of a big spoiler since we find out hints and pieces of it throughout the film. Jesus christ
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Feb 20, 2017 18:23
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If they use her again there's a 99% chance she gets recast, because the actress is like 10 and Fox is not waiting that long.
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Feb 20, 2017 18:23
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twistedmentat posted:That's only slightly less depressing than what happens in Old Man Logan. Eh, if Laura ends up popular they'll just do a series of post-apocalyptic Laura films with a new actress or something.
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Aphrodite posted:If they use her again there's a 99% chance she gets recast, because the actress is like 10 and Fox is not waiting that long. I've heard both rebooting X-men, but also something called X-men Supernova which takes place in space and is closer to the actual Phoenix Saga, with Sophie Turner still has Gene and the rest of the Apocalypse kids. The movie will be more about why Magneto's hair is white though.
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Well, if they're rebooting they haven't told the cast yet because Sophie Turner mentioned in some interview they start shooting this summer.
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Aphrodite posted:Well, if they're rebooting they haven't told the cast yet because Sophie Turner mentioned in some interview they start shooting this summer. They should save everyone's time and money and only shoot the parts they know will end up in the Deleted Scenes.
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twistedmentat posted:That's only slightly less depressing than what happens in Old Man Logan. It's ok to just enjoy a film as itself and not worry about the greater ramifications for the shared cinematic universe.
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Lurdiak posted:It's ok to just enjoy a film as itself and not worry about the greater ramifications for the shared cinematic universe. Ban this fake nerd
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Feb 20, 2017 22:18
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Lurdiak posted:It's ok to just enjoy a film as itself and not worry about the greater ramifications for the shared cinematic universe.
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Feb 20, 2017 22:22
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I kinda feel like even a good X-Men movie is weighed down by the baggage of all the movies. I would really like to enjoy Logan if it's a good movie, but then I just think about the dozen other X-men movies and all the good and bad that comes with it and it's just a really long uphill battle for me to give any kind of poo poo about an X-men movie at this point.
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Jamesman posted:I kinda feel like even a good X-Men movie is weighed down by the baggage of all the movies. I would really like to enjoy Logan if it's a good movie, but then I just think about the dozen other X-men movies and all the good and bad that comes with it and it's just a really long uphill battle for me to give any kind of poo poo about an X-men movie at this point. I mean, it basically kills everyone off from all of those before the credits.
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Timeless Appeal posted:I think there's a difference between what you're describing and just wanting to see a character's story continue. This is exactly it, I love what they've done with Laura in the books, she is a fulled fleshed out character with her own wants and desires, motivations and flaws. She has her own relationships with other people and is more than just teen girl clone of Logan. I would love to see the movies do the same thing.
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Feb 20, 2017 22:41
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Wow director's cuts really do improve a film
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Feb 20, 2017 22:47
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God, that fight scene is so loving good. Zack Snyder should have just made a stand alone Batman movie.
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WickedHate posted:God, that fight scene is so loving good. Zack Snyder should have just made a stand alone Batman movie. Well if director talks keep going the way they are he just might.
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MacheteZombie posted:Well if director talks keep going the way they are he just might. Hey now, Matt Reeves might still be in the running. The article clearly mentioned that talks might start again when both sides let their heads cool. I took that to mean that they were doing negotiations in a sauna and that everything was going swimmingly until it just got too hot and I'm sure that they'll reconvene any moment now...
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Feb 20, 2017 23:02
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Legit? I hope so, Black Manta looks really cool Ocean Master looks like, well Ocean Master.
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Ocean Master looks like just straight up artwork and the rest screams photoshop.
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WickedHate posted:Ocean Master looks like just straight up artwork and the rest screams photoshop. Yea, that's why I'm not sure its real or not, because I have seen lovely photoshops like this as material for actual films, but Ocean Master does look like he's lifted right from the Throne of Atlantis animated movie.
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Feb 21, 2017 03:56
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I mean, you could have just looked up the Instagram listed at the top and seen that is indeed fake.
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X-O posted:I mean, you could have just looked up the Instagram listed at the top and seen that is indeed fake. I didn't even notice that  Though now I'm going to be upset when Black Manta looks like poo poo in the actual movie.
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Feb 21, 2017 05:10
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I like Black Manta's design because of how simple it is. Which means they'll probably over-design the movie version with a billion different parts on his costume.
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twistedmentat posted:I didn't even notice that Are there people that think Black Manta's look is actually cool?
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Feb 21, 2017 05:13
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Black Manta looks like a low-rent Scooby-Doo villain and there's no way it will ever look good on screen without some serious loving liberties.
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X-O posted:Are there people that think Black Manta's look is actually cool? *tugs collar neevously* n..n.no
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Roth posted:I like Black Manta's design because of how simple it is. Yep, black suit, big rear end helmet with big red eyes, what's not to love? But yea, we'll end up with some overly complex suit that has a ton of junk on it to make it more interesting. I don't mind when they texture stuff because a flat black or blue body suit looks kind of weird, especially in HD. I think the design for Black Panther for example is perfect, it's still simple but has enough going on it's not boring.
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X-O posted:Are there people that think Black Manta's look is actually cool? I'm the opposite. Surprised that there are people who think it doesn't look cool. Especially the Scooby-Doo comment, because that could be said about vast numbers of comic book villains.
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Lobok posted:I'm the opposite. Surprised that there are people who think it doesn't look cool. Especially the Scooby-Doo comment, because that could be said about vast numbers of comic book villains. I've got some bad news for you.
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No, since I like the way most comic book villains look. I actually don't think that most villains need to be completely redesigned for the big screen.
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Lobok posted:No, since I like the way most comic book villains look. I actually don't think that most villains need to be completely redesigned for the big screen. Well, you're wrong.
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If they can pull something off like what they're doing with the Vulture for Spider-Man, I'd be happy. Vulture looks really good.
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They may not be superhero films but Quagmire is pretty much madmax.jpg
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Arist posted:Black Manta looks like a low-rent Scooby-Doo villain and there's no way it will ever look good on screen without some serious loving liberties. Damnit, you're right. Then again, the fact that Superfriends was a thing doesn't help because I have an exact visual of what Black Manta looks like in that cheapo Sixties style.
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So the Logan reviews have been super positive so far, but I keep hearing "i was getting tired of Super Hero movies..." but I still think "Are there that many? There was what, 5 last year? how many Horror, romcoms, or non super hero action movies came out last year?". I guess because superhero movies are the big blockbusters, it could see to someone who doesn't follow movies might think there are only Superhero movies coming out, but a critic?
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twistedmentat posted:So the Logan reviews have been super positive so far, but I keep hearing "i was getting tired of Super Hero movies..." but I still think "Are there that many? There was what, 5 last year? how many Horror, romcoms, or non super hero action movies came out last year?". I guess because superhero movies are the big blockbusters, it could see to someone who doesn't follow movies might think there are only Superhero movies coming out, but a critic? Superhero movies are just a passing fad, you see. That well's due to dry up any day now, or so I keep hearing.
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twistedmentat posted:So the Logan reviews have been super positive so far, but I keep hearing "i was getting tired of Super Hero movies..." but I still think "Are there that many? There was what, 5 last year? how many Horror, romcoms, or non super hero action movies came out last year?". I guess because superhero movies are the big blockbusters, it could see to someone who doesn't follow movies might think there are only Superhero movies coming out, but a critic? Superhero movies have very long marketing cycles so people think about them throughout the year more often than they think of other genre action movies. The interconnected nature of the MCU and other worse cinematic universes also makes it so previous films stay in the public consciousness for longer. I mean, people are already trying to say they're sick of Star Wars because of how long the Force Awakens' marketing onslaught lasted. Superhero movie fatigue always felt a bit more to me like people getting bored of movies trying to do the Battle of NY from Avengers but again too much. The average person who regularly enjoys action movies will probably continue to like superhero movies as long as they begin to vary in tone and structure, which it seems like Marvel Studios is pushing towards and Fox has wound up doing through simply letting people make whatever movie they want if they yell at them for long enough.
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I think it's mainly that they are now the biggest of the big budget movies. I can't think of anything besides Star Wars that get as much hype and attention as them.
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