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PFlats posted:Or, perhaps, his climactic redemption. Well, Xykon does have a huge army. The OoTS are going to need an army of their own at some point to bail them out.
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Alchenar posted:Well, Xykon does have a huge army. The OoTS are going to need an army of their own at some point to bail them out. Yes, but they're leaving it behind at
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PFlats posted:Or, perhaps, his climactic redemption. I'm pretty sure there is going to be 1 dude legitimately redeemed in this story (not counting whatever Belkar's going through) and it's going to be Redcloak. Tarquin neither wants nor needs redemption from his viewpoint, and anyone saying he does probably just wants to see him stick around longer than the inevitable big finale.
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Nov 23, 2011 23:44
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jng2058 posted:Yes, but they're leaving it behind at 1 more Gate after that. Which is obviously where the story ends.
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Nov 23, 2011 23:56
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Alchenar posted:1 more Gate after that. Which is obviously where the story ends. 1 gate in the north. Dwarves live in the north. Durkon's return home will destroy the dwarf kingdom. Durkon will return home posthumously. Xyklon likes to reanimate defeated foes. Betting anything Durkon gets killed and zombified, and then take part in the attack on the dwarves as Xyklon moves to the last gate.
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Nilbop posted:I'm pretty sure there is going to be 1 dude legitimately redeemed in this story (not counting whatever Belkar's going through) and it's going to be Redcloak. Tarquin neither wants nor needs redemption from his viewpoint, and anyone saying he does probably just wants to see him stick around longer than the inevitable big finale. I don't think he was suggesting it would be a sincere redemption. Just Tarquin manipulating the nature of the narrative. "And now I get away with it scott free"
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Fried Chicken posted:1 gate in the north. Dwarves live in the north. Durkon's return home will destroy the dwarf kingdom. Durkon will return home posthumously. Xyklon likes to reanimate defeated foes. Durkon will be returning home on his shield (that was the phrase the oracle used, right?) So while he's most likely going to be dead I don't think zombification is in the cards.
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Nov 24, 2011 03:18
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Is it too early to call that he'll be riding his shield down a mountain like a sled when he returns to them? One of these days I'm bound to pick a twist correctly.
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Nov 24, 2011 03:23
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Cliff Racer posted:Durkon will be returning home on his shield (that was the phrase the oracle used, right?) So while he's most likely going to be dead I don't think zombification is in the cards. The oracle just said 'posthumously'.
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Nov 24, 2011 03:43
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Is.. is it too early to call that Durkon will develop a spell to have six feet of dirt hover in front of him at all time, which he will cast just before returning home? 
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Nov 24, 2011 03:50
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He's going to die because the cleric/ paladin always dies. R.I.P Sturm, or whatever your name was.
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Nov 24, 2011 04:11
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Nilbop posted:He's going to die because the cleric/ paladin always dies. Sturm Brightblade. I think he was actually just a fighter, albeit a pretty hardcore one.
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Nov 24, 2011 04:15
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The original cleric in the group was Goldenmoon, who iirc lived longer than any of other other members of the group.
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One theory that came up in the GITP forum was that Girard's soul may be body-hopping between his descendants. Is there any method for this in 3.5? I know there's a ton of other ways to avoid aging/death, but this sounds like the most dickish way possible, so it has my theory vote.
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You can totally steal someone else's body permanently in 3.5 However, that's a Necromancy thing, which Illusionists are normally barred from doing. Cabbit posted:Sturm Brightblade. I think he was actually just a fighter, albeit a pretty hardcore one. He was worse then that, he was a Paladin in a setting that had no magic. He was effectively a lovely fighter without any feats. Dude was still badass though. I read those books back in middle school, I was thinking I should read them again. I only hope I don't hate them this time and ruin my nostalgia.
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Cuchulain posted:I only hope I don't hate them this time and ruin my nostalgia. Prediction: You will.
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Yeah I don't think I'll read them again. I'd rather just have vague, disassociated memories of cool stuff (Wizard with hourglass shaped eyes, Paladin with no magic fighting a dragon, forest of fear, also a magical healing stick I think?) then fresh memories of a mediocre book.
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Cuchulain posted:You can totally steal someone else's body permanently in 3.5 Pretty sure it was written before 3rd edition and before feats were introduced. There was definitely magic, no holy magic though because the gods abandoned them. If he'd managed to live another few books he might have started gaining the paladin abilities from Paladine he didn't have previously. Come to think of it did the modern popularization of the word paladin come about from Dragonlance/Paladine? From wiki Charlemagne had a couple as bodyguards but it's not a common title.
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Goffer posted:Come to think of it did the modern popularization of the word paladin come about from Dragonlance/Paladine? From wiki Charlemagne had a couple as bodyguards but it's not a common title. Unlikely. In the late '50's there was a TV western called "Have Gun, Will Travel" about a noble gun-for-hire by the name of Paladin. There was a white knight on his business cards, so there was definitely that association in pop culture before the Dragon Lance books.
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navyjack posted:Prediction: You will. Echoing this, I read them in junior high or around then and remembered them being pretty awesome, but I tried again a few years later and it just didn't read the same at all. Same goes for pretty much all the trash DND fiction I read. Not to say I'm above it, I just probably got burnt out on it for the rest of my life.
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Cuchulain posted:You can totally steal someone else's body permanently in 3.5 There's nothing inherent to being an illusionist that requires you to bar necromancy, it's just that a lot of people who specialize drop it. Considering a lot of illusions don't work against the undead, being an illusionist with access to necromancy isn't an awful idea. Lots of good debuffs in that school.
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Turns out Girard is such a great illusionist he managed to hide the fact that he's actually a fantastc necromancer for all these years. ... I dunno I'm not feeling it. My money would be on something like, Girard regularly poses as a younger version of himself called Orrin to pick up chicks and is such a great illusionist he can fool divination magic (would he still call himself Draketooth, though?), or Orrin is his actual name and Girard was just an alias. Or something. I mean this whole "master illusionist" buildup has got to pay off in a spectacular way fairly soon, doesn't it?
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Goffer posted:
That's where the title comes from, as the Holy Roman Emporer's loyal bodyguards they entered folklore as paragons of virtue. The word shows up a lot in medieval literature.
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Orrrrrrrrrrrrrr Girard isn't stupid and wouldn't be dumb enough to choose a specialization which gave away his weaknesses in the first place.
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So... what if Xyklon just comes down and kills Tarquin because we was bored and smugness burns better. Won't that kind of dick his goals over. No redemption, no revenge, just got eaten by a bigger fish.
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:So... what if Xyklon just comes down and kills Tarquin because we was bored and smugness burns better. Won't that kind of dick his goals over. No redemption, no revenge, just got eaten by a bigger fish. I hope we get to see a confronation between Xykon and Tarquin, who knows Tarquin might have had pre-lich Xykon on the payroll occasionally.
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:So... what if Xyklon just comes down and kills Tarquin because we was bored and smugness burns better. Won't that kind of dick his goals over. No redemption, no revenge, just got eaten by a bigger fish. You say this like there's some way it wouldn't be completely awesome.
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Affi posted:I hope we get to see a confronation between Xykon and Tarquin, who knows Tarquin might have had pre-lich Xykon on the payroll occasionally. Knowing Tarquin's early personality (Start of Darkness,) I highly doubt it.
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Cliff Racer posted:Knowing Tarquin's early personality (Start of Darkness,) I highly doubt it.
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XkyRauh posted:Tarquin, or Xykon? I didn't think Tarquin showed up in SoD. Think he means Xykon, who was pretty much purely independent in SoD before joining Redcloak.
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True Evil Bob posted:Think he means Xykon, who was pretty much purely independent in SoD before joining Redcloak. Yeah, I did mean Xykon, sorry for that.
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Wait, wait, I got it. Draketooth is Haley. It explains how Haley and Draketooth have never been in the same room together!
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New comic - http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0817.html
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Gharbad the Weak posted:Wait, wait, I got it. No no no the entire continent and it's feuds are an elaborate illusion of Girard.
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Oh man, I know it was a set-up, but goddamn that last joke was great.
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He may be a facist dictator, but by god, Tarquin would get things done. I'm voting Blood Emperess 2012!
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YouTuber posted:No no no the entire continent and it's feuds are an elaborate illusion of Girard. ... or maybe that's what he wants us to think.
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I shouldn't be drinking hot drinks while I read the comic. It hurts. "Hi! I'm Elan! What's your name, Roy?"
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Pope Guilty posted:I want to believe his mentioning the color was a Warhammer joke. It totally is.
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