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FuturePastNow posted:The impression I've gotten, and I'm sure someone will tell me I'm wrong, is that souls aren't like fish swimming around in the lifestream. They're like ice cubes that go in when the body dies and melt, and the denser aether-rich souls just take longer to dissolve. When a new person is born they usually get fresh aether out the end of the lifestream. I mean at the beginning of ARR the Kobolds, Sahagin, and Sylphs at least haven't summoned their primals since the calamity. It is implied that the Amaljaa and Ixal haven't either. The Primals they are summoning are, by that logic, fresh primals, but they definitely have some level of awareness and continuity. The thing about Y'shtola and Thancred is that they went into the aether whole, while a primal's aether disperses after you kill them.
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There is at least some innate connection to a specific set of aether because we know Shards of people exist and have existed over multiple lifetimes and at very least the dragons consider the your aether to be who you are even if you're eaten and inside of them.
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FuturePastNow posted:The impression I've gotten, and I'm sure someone will tell me I'm wrong, is that souls aren't like fish swimming around in the lifestream. They're like ice cubes that go in when the body dies and melt, and the denser aether-rich souls just take longer to dissolve. When a new person is born they usually get fresh aether out the end of the lifestream. Could be like the Jewish conceit where your soul is a somewhat fungible thing that comes and goes and is not strictly analogous to the consciousness so much as what holds it - or it could be just that "soul" is an anatomized term that doesn't directly match to the spiritual notion of qualia. ImpAtom posted:There is at least some innate connection to a specific set of aether because we know Shards of people exist and have existed over multiple lifetimes and at very least the dragons consider the your aether to be who you are even if you're eaten and inside of them. Further complicating this is that dragons can sense the souls of deceased dragons in not only the blood of Ishgardians who imbibe them but their descendants.
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Jetrauben posted:Further complicating this is that dragons can sense the souls of deceased dragons in not only the blood of Ishgardians who imbibe them but their descendants. Elementals, similarly, can also detect a person's transgressions against nature in a previous life, and there may be a possibility that souls might run in families... which gives a whole new spin on the phrase 'You have your grandfather's eyes.'
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The download is now live. And with that, I take my cue to bow out from the Spoiler thread. It's been a lovely couple of years throwing around nonsense theories and fighting about Emet-Selch but now it is time to part for a while. I'll see you on the other side of The End.
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Regy Rusty posted:The download is now live. And with that, I take my cue to bow out from the Spoiler thread. It's been a lovely couple of years throwing around nonsense theories and fighting about Emet-Selch but now it is time to part for a while. I'll see you on the other side of The End.
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The only datamining/spoilers I need are to see the SGE weapon models. I wanna see if the variety of designs is good or if it's gonna be another AST.
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Yeah it's been delightful throwing rocks at this thread like a loving moron, and I'll be back after I'm through Endwalker can't wait to blow up the loving moon
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Regy Rusty posted:The download is now live. And with that, I take my cue to bow out from the Spoiler thread. It's been a lovely couple of years throwing around nonsense theories and fighting about Emet-Selch but now it is time to part for a while. I'll see you on the other side of The End. same, see ya in a few days spoilerinos!
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Yep, same here. It's been fun, but it's vacation time. I hope everyone enjoys Endwalker. I'll just leave this spicy tidbit: Astrologians are not and never have been Time Mages or Geomancers.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Yep, same here. Astrologians aren't geomancers, but geomancers are astrologians. Maybe worth making a new spoiler thread?
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Yeah, datamine stuff is coming and I dunno what to drop, even tagged, lol.
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Dec 3, 2021 03:12
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I'm getting out of here. Bye all.
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See you all in probably two weeks
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Cowards running away from the truth that Tataru is Zodiark.
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Oh my God. That's gorgeous. Edit: Just a blind guess here, but maybe it's a new Gil sink mount to get all of that Coffee Biscuit Gil out of the economy?
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sweet geek swag posted:Cowards running away from the truth that Tataru is Zodiark. They are right to be scared.
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Here's some light spoilers (in that they suggest plot progression) - it's the main story titles in the order you acquire them (all of them are unisex, no variants) Magus Resister Moonwalker Lightingway Vrtra's Valiant Elphiphoros Hope's Legacy Endwalker Less spoilery, the 80 Reaper and Sage titles. Lemures for RPR, The Sagacious for SGE.
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Hogama posted:Here's some light spoilers (in that they suggest plot progression) - it's the main story titles in the order you acquire them (all of them are unisex, no variants) ...that 2nd one, huh? Also I'm weak, I'm probably gonna hang out here anyway
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I'm sticking around, as long as we keep the datamined stuff spoilered and labeled so we can choose to spoil ourself or not.
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I am here to gorge myself on spoilers. I'm one of those weirdos who always looks up how a game or book ends before I play/read for the first time, and often before I even buy.
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Cythereal posted:I am here to gorge myself on spoilers. yea tbh with how FF is so good at poo poo like imagery and musical stings and all even if I accidentally read an covered 'wow can't believe Alphinaud gets loving murdered for good' I'm still gonna cry like a baby if my precious elf child is even slightly hurt.
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My plan is definitely to keep everything tagged, but at least with context. Here's the final two zones: Elpis (the floating islands) Ultima Thule Here's the prefix for the first of those two that may explain why they were so reluctant to show anything more than the concept art: The World Unsundered Maps for them, if you wanna try and squint to make out the Eorzean script on them. First zone  Second zone 
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eonwe posted:
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Hogama posted:My plan is definitely to keep everything tagged, but at least with context. so the greek goddess of hope and greek for "final region", both fitting the Ancients' greek theme
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Well I guess I'd better get out of this thread for a few days! See you all later!
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The only spoilers I care about are mounts, minions and maybe fashion  .
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Nuebot posted:The only spoilers I care about are mounts, minions and maybe fashion
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So, one of the music tracks is a rock remix of Answers, and sure as hell sounds like music for a trial or solo duty.
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eonwe posted:
That's a big spoiler.
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Cythereal posted:So, one of the music tracks is a rock remix of Answers, and sure as hell sounds like music for a trial or solo duty. Seriously, be careful about mousing over bars!
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I've just finished listening to all the new trial/duty boss music in Endwalker. I am loving PUMPED.
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The song you hear at the start of the launch trailer (not the cinematic trailer) is listed as the 3rd day theme for Ultima Thule - I'm thinking it's going to be Endwalker's equivalent of High Treason.
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The EX mounts for this expansion are winged great cats, so you'll be collecting Lynx of _______. Edit: here's the new mount models in at launch. 
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Hogama posted:The EX mounts for this expansion are winged great cats, so you'll be collecting Lynx of _______. Most of those look cool! That rhino thing looks straight out of WoW though
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Nuebot posted:Most of those look cool! That rhino thing looks straight out of WoW though Pretty sure it's straight out of FF11
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Pretty sure it's straight out of FF11 Yep, they're also in Amh Araeng I believe.
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