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Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh
He did buy a 599, but used.

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Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Hey guys what's up? I got these two extra cylinders in Stuttgart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-aAMr5kySg

:aaaaa:

And then someone put it in a 914.

See More Butts
Dec 29, 2004



2ndclasscitizen posted:

Speaking of Motor Trend, if anyone remembers this: http://jalopnik.com/5969087/ralph-gilles-calls-out-motor-trend-driver-for-being-afraid-of-the-viper Ralph Gilles said they were being soft with the Viper. Turns out in that test Randy Pobst broke the Laguna production car record in the 'Vette: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExgJxgNSWtk

I like how the Viper spends 90% of the time in 2nd gear around the track

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005

Stuck throttle leads to maniacal laughter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEGb9sAxyHk

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Preoptopus posted:

So is he a trust fund kid or something? Quick Google search only turned up stuff for the NFL player.

I think he must be independently wealthy from something other than whatever he makes as an auto journalist. He's currently got a 599 (used, but still hardly cheap), which replaced a GT3RS 4.0, and he's had a Gallardo, and that ridiculous green 911 wouldn't have been cheap either, plus a year or so ago he posted on a site he was writing for (I think it might have still been Evo) asking what would people recommend as a family car to replace his E63. That's not a list of cars owned by a professional auto journalist.

2ndclasscitizen fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Jan 18, 2013

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


2ndclasscitizen posted:

I think he must be independently wealthy from something other than whatever he makes as an auto journalist. He's currently got a 599 (used, but still hardly cheap), which replaced a GT3RS 4.0, and he's had a Gallardo, and that ridiculous green 911 wouldn't have been cheap either, plus a year or so ago he posted on a site he was writing for (I think it might have still been Evo) asking what would people recommend as a family car to replace his E63. That's not a list of cars owned by a professional auto journalist.

It is if you're Clarkson. He's had a CLK63 Black, an SLS Roadster, an M3 CSL, a Ferrari F355, 2 Ford GTs, a Gallardo and a bunch of other slighty less expensive, but still interesting cars.

b0nes
Sep 11, 2001

grumplestiltzkin posted:

people finance rims?:psyduck:

Um hello you never heard of http://www.rentawheel.com/ they are all over L.A.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

KozmoNaut posted:

It is if you're Clarkson. He's had a CLK63 Black, an SLS Roadster, an M3 CSL, a Ferrari F355, 2 Ford GTs, a Gallardo and a bunch of other slighty less expensive, but still interesting cars.

I'd dispute Clarkson is a motoring journalist. Very little of what made his money was journalism. Thankfully.

Anarchist Mae
Nov 5, 2009

by Reene
Lipstick Apathy
National Geographic: Megafactories, Aston Martin One 77
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xRv8Cr5OyQ

Squeeze
Jul 23, 2012

2ndclasscitizen posted:

I think he must be independently wealthy from something other than whatever he makes as an auto journalist. He's currently got a 599 (used, but still hardly cheap), which replaced a GT3RS 4.0, and he's had a Gallardo, and that ridiculous green 911 wouldn't have been cheap either, plus a year or so ago he posted on a site he was writing for (I think it might have still been Evo) asking what would people recommend as a family car to replace his E63. That's not a list of cars owned by a professional auto journalist.

He posted a video a while ago where he said he DD's an old Passat TDI.

Root Bear
Nov 15, 2004

DARKEST SKETCH
Checked your lugs lately?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrzyiPWzOpY

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Hot Rod documentary from '58.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Yra4SnLt4

Aurune
Jun 17, 2006


The end of the clip shows you what happens when you introduce tires into a place where they have no natural predators.

It's not always the lugs.

This was actually the axel.
http://vimeo.com/49224945

This is the infamous GT3 center lock hub failure. There used to be a video of this crash from outside the car. It seems to have been deleted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oboxnQwEg4

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

This owns pretty hard. Look at all the safety equipment, too!

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005

I love these departure compilations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47BkSqK19YQ

angryhampster fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Jan 19, 2013

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010

Did the 348 coupe at 2:06 have straight cut gears?

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Here's a dude bitching about his Karma's infotainment system for 40 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK8MqjagHu8

Somehow I watched all of it, basically being fascinated by the :stonk:-enducing awfulness.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


What the hell were they even thinking?

Were they even thinking at all?

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh
It's interesting. I never, ever want a touchscreen near my car.

It is also a good example of bad UI design. I work for a company that has a lot of custom coded CAD software and the basic UI mistakes and inconsistencies are maddening when you deal with them all the time. I constantly point this poo poo out to fellow engineers and they just think I'm a whiner.

Crustashio fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Jan 19, 2013

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Crustashio posted:

It's interesting. I never, ever want a touchscreen near my car.

Also good examples of bad UI design. I work for a company that has a lot of custom coded CAD software and the basic UI mistakes and inconsistencies are maddening when you deal with them all the time. I constantly point this poo poo out to fellow engineers and they just think I'm a whiner.

I also never, ever want a touchscreen in my car.

My car has buttons. They're black with white text on them. I can distinguish them by touch alone based on their positions and shape. I know when I've pressed one, because I can feel it 'click'. The multifunction display is easy to read. It has large, easily legible text. It has good contrast (despite actually being light orange on dark orange). It's simple, it's brilliant and it works! I have no idea why that is so hard to understand for automotive engineers.

Regarding bad UI design, it's like those PC applications that try to be cutesy and look like real-life objects. Like IP telephone applications. They look like phones, have the same storage and usability problems as an old-fashioned physical phone (storage for 6 contacts only? WTF?) and are a bitch to use.

I cannot fathom why people can actually look at something like that and think "yeah, that's just about perfect now. Let's ship it!". Or how people put up with it. I would turn down, walk away and find another car if the primary interfaces (this includes A/C and radio) on the one I was looking at were a bitch to use.

KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Jan 19, 2013

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
Matt Farah and an Ecoboost powered Raptor*

*Actually it's an Ecoboost F-150 with a Raptor frame and body swap :ssh: When Farah explains why it will make sense, yet be completely unfathomable at the same time.

Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Jan 19, 2013

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005

Lord Gaga posted:

Did the 348 coupe at 2:06 have straight cut gears?

It did sound that way.


I checked out some of this guy's other videos. They're all awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47BkSqK19YQ

^ The Zonda just sounds mental.


Nothing beats the angry howl of a 355 with tuned exhaust though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg-5k_O6qlg

Muffinpox
Sep 7, 2004
Posted in the trucker thread, semi trucks with accident avoidance auto braking. The in cab angle is rear end clenching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ridS396W2BY

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

KozmoNaut posted:

I also never, ever want a touchscreen in my car.

I've been seeing a number of car commercials lately touting how everything is now on a touchscreen, "just like your tablet". I can never help but think how awful an idea that is. It works on a tablet because you are supposed to be looking at the tablet. With a car, you should be looking out the windshield, not finding your way around a graphical user interface.

Viggen
Sep 10, 2010

by XyloJW

XK posted:

With a car, you should be looking out the windshield, not finding your way around a graphical user interface.

Keep in mind this was a 'tech demo' for something which never happened (circa Q3 2010ish, on YouTubes Q1 2011).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOd9oX1p4s

I can't imagine a worse idea than having gauges and other really important data (and toys) accessible in this manner while driving, and if you can't use them while driving, why wouldn't you just use your Smartphone - unless it was sold to GM under the guise of 'requiring Onstar with a data plan'. IDGI. I'm glad it didn't occur.

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

I think manufacturers like the idea of putting everything into a touchscreen because I'm pretty sure it ends up being cheaper for them to just toss a touchscreen into the console rather than engineer a traditional panel full of buttons. Plus, they get to act like their idea is super high tech while saving that design and production money. I can only imagine how terrible having to use a touchscreen for anything is while driving at night and trying to keep your eyes dark adjusted.

I hope the day never comes where I have to navigate out of a Facebook page so I can adjust my seat height.

Puddin
Apr 9, 2004
Leave it to Brak

Muffinpox posted:

Posted in the trucker thread, semi trucks with accident avoidance auto braking. The in cab angle is rear end clenching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ridS396W2BY

It's pretty amazing how quickly it stops though. Sure it's probably not loaded to the full extent, but the system does a good job of stopping the truck quickly.

Lightglobe
Oct 15, 2005

Puddin posted:

It's pretty amazing how quickly it stops though. Sure it's probably not loaded to the full extent, but the system does a good job of stopping the truck quickly.

The description says: "The tractor trailer is fully loaded to 40 tons GCW."

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

XK posted:

I think manufacturers like the idea of putting everything into a touchscreen because I'm pretty sure it ends up being cheaper for them to just toss a touchscreen into the console rather than engineer a traditional panel full of buttons. Plus, they get to act like their idea is super high tech while saving that design and production money. I can only imagine how terrible having to use a touchscreen for anything is while driving at night and trying to keep your eyes dark adjusted.

I hope the day never comes where I have to navigate out of a Facebook page so I can adjust my seat height.

So it's not just me who is at best highly dubious of touchscreens. The recent touchscreen enabled cars I've been in have been.... difficult to say the least. I dont understand why tho - touchscreen I think could be a very good idea done right. But it seems to me the usability of the menus and subsystems leave much to be desired and are obviously just not done well. It's not like it would be hard to make even a few minor changes to make the screens much quicker to use too.

I dunno, so far I havent seen one I think is done well but I do think it could be a very good thing when done right. I've heard a few higher end cars do have very good interfaces but as yet I haven't used them so I can only comment on what I have used.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


I don't think it's possible to make a touchscreen interface for a car that's as intuitive, easy to use and safe as a decent button setup.

With the touchscreen, you have no tactile feedback, you have to focus on the screen to make sure you hit the right buttons. With a good button+dial setup, you don't even need to look down to set the temperature, radio volume etc.

For esoteric options, such as setting the various suspension settings, engine power maps, dome light timeouts and so on, of course touchscreens are better, you can have a nested menu structure with a bunch of options. But none of those things need to be adjusted while you're driving.

Hello Spaceman
Jan 18, 2005

hop, skip, and jumpgate

angryhampster posted:

It did sound that way.


I checked out some of this guy's other videos. They're all awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47BkSqK19YQ

^ The Zonda just sounds mental.


Nothing beats the angry howl of a 355 with tuned exhaust though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg-5k_O6qlg

More 355 love:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR_kz8l9CjE

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

:italy::respek::australia:

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005


+ Clarkson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8YZzGaprtA

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

KozmoNaut posted:

For esoteric options, such as setting the various suspension settings, engine power maps, dome light timeouts and so on, of course touchscreens are better, you can have a nested menu structure with a bunch of options. But none of those things need to be adjusted while you're driving.

This is my feeling of it. Providing a set of deep customization options through a touchscreen, for things that would rarely need to be changed or accessed, sounds like a fantastic idea. Anything that would reasonably need to be accessed while driving needs to have its own button, knob, or slider you can reach for and feel.

sixide
Oct 25, 2004
Even if someone developed a computer controlled touchscreen-like device that could create and destroy physical buttons on demand, it shouldn't be used for anything that's needed while driving. There's a lot of value in having controls that never move, always where you expect them.

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

sixide posted:

Even if someone developed a computer controlled touchscreen-like device that could create and destroy physical buttons on demand, it shouldn't be used for anything that's needed while driving. There's a lot of value in having controls that never move, always where you expect them.

Somebody did exactly that. It's called Tactus. http://vimeo.com/43431035

Still don't want every single one of my vehicle controls to be managed through it.

Sir Cornelius
Oct 30, 2011

KozmoNaut posted:

I don't think it's possible to make a touchscreen interface for a car that's as intuitive, easy to use and safe as a decent button setup.

Touchscreens are nice for GPS only. And only with a very intuitive interface and the screen placed high enough. All other options should be blocked while driving, and redundant analogue buttons should be mandatory.

Pretty Cool Name
Jan 8, 2010

wat

How is driving at night with those huge touch screens? It must wreck your night visions unless it dims down to nothing, and then you can't use it.

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005

Pretty Cool Name posted:

How is driving at night with those huge touch screens? It must wreck your night visions unless it dims down to nothing, and then you can't use it.

I'm not fond of it. I drove my step-father's F350 around quite a bit when I visited my parents for Christmas. The 4"(ish) LCD screen in the middle of the gauges along with the big touch screen in the center of the dash was pretty distracting.

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CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Pretty Cool Name posted:

How is driving at night with those huge touch screens? It must wreck your night visions unless it dims down to nothing, and then you can't use it.

Didnt really notice the screens so cant say it was too big a deal.

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