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FireMrshlBill
Aug 13, 2006

LEMME SHOW YOU SOMETHING!!!

VorpalFish posted:

Am I missing something? 2500 for the seat plus 1200 for the card is 3700. If you're willing to pay that much couldn't you just ebay a 3090 or something?

I really hope that wasn't a gamer offering that much $ for, well, any gpu.

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Lurikeenrock
May 19, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

FireMrshlBill posted:

I really hope that wasn't a gamer offering that much $ for, well, any gpu.

gamers have done worse for less

FireMrshlBill
Aug 13, 2006

LEMME SHOW YOU SOMETHING!!!

Lurikeenrock posted:

gamers have done worse for less


Haha, I remember that.

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

Vintersorg posted:

Never trust an American

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

shrike82 posted:

I'm still puzzled why they didn't brand the 3090 as a Titan and un-nerf stuff like FP16 performance - especially with the 3080 Ti sitting awkardly next to it.
There were rumors for a while that there'd be a proper Titan but it looks like they're just pushing everyone to the A5000/6000s.

The previous Titan was $2500 why would they give you a thousand dollar discount on one gen to gen

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

they could have charged $2500 for the 3090 Titan and made the 3080 Ti look like a bargain..

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005
Yeah they're probably kicking their own asses for making that oversight

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

shrike82 posted:

I'm still puzzled why they didn't brand the 3090 as a Titan and un-nerf stuff like FP16 performance - especially with the 3080 Ti sitting awkardly next to it.
There were rumors for a while that there'd be a proper Titan but it looks like they're just pushing everyone to the A5000/6000s.

if you call it a Titan then you push it towards the professionals

keeping it as a 3090 means you're going to sell some to gamers who might not otherwise would have

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005
8k gaming!

KinkyJohn
Sep 19, 2002

Or at least VR gaming

FireMrshlBill
Aug 13, 2006

LEMME SHOW YOU SOMETHING!!!
I’m just glad I was able to get my 3080FE from Best Buy at the end of April, and it was my bday month so go it for 10% off msrp. So spending over $2000 on a 3080ti is just sickening to me.

And was able to get a 6700xt earlier that month, which is now in my living room PC. Now I just need to figure out how to unload my Vega56 and 5600xt they replaced, I feel like eBay is probably sketchy for buying or selling gpu’s these days. Don’t want a fake claim or something. What’s popular now? Is OfferUp still going strong or just doing FB Marketplace? May just do an auction on SAmart.

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

Hey I'm the guy with two video cards, look at me


Get 'em!!


Kidding of course, congrats on snagging them

False Toaster
Dec 29, 2006

Stupidity, its both physically and mentally painful.

mutata posted:

Not to defend a YouTuber or anything, but there's lots of context missing from that obviously cherry-picked 2nd hand sound bite.

Edit: For example, he didn't, in fact, apologize for their review, heh.

He will never admit he's wrong. I mean why publish a review for a product when you don't even know the price? Then to double down on your bullshit.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Vintersorg posted:

Never trust an American on how to pronounce things.

canadian: "3080 tee eh"

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.
Some more bad news for people hoping that there will be relief on GPU shortages from ethereum - 2.0 proof of stake has been pushed back again until late 2022.

Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/nt53mx/youll_be_shocked_to_hear_that_the_clock_for/

Not because of any technical reason. They could do it right now.

It's because miners are really greedy and lazy with how things are right now, even as things are horribly wasteful and inefficient, and don't want to make that shift.

So unless the current ethereum market bottoms out (it might, because it's growing nigh impossible for retail investors to buy in) or there's a bunch of government crackdowns on mining, then the greedy demand it generates for GPUs isn't going to slow down.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Alan Smithee posted:

canadian: "3080 tee eh"

Tee-eye, eh bud??

Speaking of Canada: MemoryExpress has said they are only doing instore sales and only builds when selling new cards.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
The RTX MMMLXXX

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
more like MLM

and XXX cuz it's porn

KinkyJohn
Sep 19, 2002

Our most popular online computer store has the 3080ti in stock to buy right now for $2130 and the 3080 (same brand) right next to it for $2530.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

KinkyJohn posted:

Our most popular online computer store has the 3080ti in stock to buy right now for $2130 and the 3080 (same brand) right next to it for $2530.

where is this so i can laugh

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Meanwhile at Central

KinkyJohn
Sep 19, 2002

Alan Smithee posted:

where is this so i can laugh

https://www.wootware.co.za/palit-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-gamingpro-ned308t019kb-132aa-12gb-gddr6x-384-bit-pci-e-4-0-desktop-graphics-card.html

https://www.wootware.co.za/palit-geforce-rtx-3080-gamingpro-oc-ned3080s19ia-132aa-10gb-gddr6x-320-bit-pci-e-4-0-desktop-graphics-card.html

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010
So evga are forcing bundles on outlets? And supplying at retail prices?

Proper shambles this is.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
everyone is forcing bundles on everyone. golden age in warehouse management.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

I met a guy from Kenya in line at BB and apparently it's the same deal

cultureulterior
Jan 27, 2004

SuperTeeJay posted:

I am struggling to resist the stupid temptation to buy a 3090 FE for £1,400 (not impossible as they stay in stock for longer than other models in the UK)

Where?

Cabbages and VHS
Aug 25, 2004

Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.

Heartwarming my rear end, this is end stage capitalist nightmare fuel against the backdrop of a global pandemic

Cabbages and VHS
Aug 25, 2004

Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.

Spacedad posted:

So unless the current ethereum market bottoms out (it might, because it's growing nigh impossible for retail investors to buy in) or there's a bunch of government crackdowns on mining, then the greedy demand it generates for GPUs isn't going to slow down.

Eh, look at the difficulty charts, though. If you got a 3080 at msrp at release and mined the 23 hours a day you were not gaming, you could have paid it off by sometime in December. If you got one in December (I did!) you probably would have paid it off last month sometime.

As number of cards in wild increases so will difficulty and we will land back in a spot where this is only profitable with huge rigs using stolen electricity. Right now if you pay 20cents per kwh AND your mining somehow is not impacting your cooling costs, your profit is still only something like $2-3 a day on a 3070, 3-4 on a 3080. Excluding costsof running the rest of the pc, that's just based on 230w of throttled 3080.

If ETH really crashed hard it would become actively unprofitable.

As much as I think crypto is dumb, the idea of a stateside crackdown alarms me more because I do not think the government should really be telling me what hashing functions are or are not allowed on hardware I own. On the other hand, if they wanted to tax hashing that results in profitable tokens and require paperwork to the point that it became completely impractical for the average person, sure.

Seems way more effective to me to go after coinbase and the various ways of transacting crypto back into the real economy. Of course, those institutions pay taxes and have become part of the normal economy at this point. When I log into Fideliy and see poo poo about crypto it makes me think the cat is way, way, way out of the bag.

Cabbages and VHS fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Jun 6, 2021

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010

CoolCab posted:

everyone is forcing bundles on everyone. golden age in warehouse management.

Do you still live in the same city as me? There is small pc shop/repair/sla with lots of various rtx boxes inside. No idea if they are from prebuilds as their website is a mess. I will go in and ask tomorrow.

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008


Scan is the official FE retailer.

Sir Sidney Poitier
Aug 14, 2006

My favourite actor


I have also been told that only the Founders Edition cards have basket reservation at Scan - with anything else, unless you have your details saved and are ninja fast, it'll be gone before you put your address in. They also restrict one per customer based on IP/card number/delivery address.

I was fortunate to snag a 3060 Ti from Scan the other day but I've traded it up for a 3080 Ti a friend got and was nice enough to sell me with no markup.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Cabbages and Kings posted:


If ETH really crashed hard it would become actively unprofitable.

As much as I think crypto is dumb, the idea of a stateside crackdown alarms me more because I do not think the government should really be telling me what hashing functions are or are not allowed on hardware I own. On the other hand, if they wanted to tax hashing that results in profitable tokens and require paperwork to the point that it became completely impractical for the average person, sure.

Seems way more effective to me to go after coinbase and the various ways of transacting crypto back into the real economy. Of course, those institutions pay taxes and have become part of the normal economy at this point. When I log into Fideliy and see poo poo about crypto it makes me think the cat is way, way, way out of the bag.

Hi! This is crossing the line into cryptochat, so if we could not follow this particular discussion thread I would appreciate it. Thank you!

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.
edit: oopsie, no more cryptochat

Anyway, getting back to gpus - any San Diego or southern californian goons interested in form a line-group for the 3070ti launch? I figure there'd be good safety in numbers.

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

Sir Sidney Poitier posted:

I have also been told that only the Founders Edition cards have basket reservation at Scan - with anything else, unless you have your details saved and are ninja fast, it'll be gone before you put your address in. They also restrict one per customer based on IP/card number/delivery address.

I was fortunate to snag a 3060 Ti from Scan the other day but I've traded it up for a 3080 Ti a friend got and was nice enough to sell me with no markup.

Yeah it's the best place to score a card in the UK. You still have to watch stock alerts but it you get notification when they go live there's a good chance of getting one.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015

gradenko_2000 posted:

if you call it a Titan then you push it towards the professionals

keeping it as a 3090 means you're going to sell some to gamers who might not otherwise would have

What was even the last Titan? Pascal? Certainly not Maxwell.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

NewFatMike posted:

What was even the last Titan? Pascal? Certainly not Maxwell.

There was a Turing Titan.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

NewFatMike posted:

What was even the last Titan? Pascal? Certainly not Maxwell.

Turing had the Titan RTX

Pascal had the Titan X Pascal

Maxwell had the GTX Titan X

Kepler had the GTX Titan (and the GTX Titan Black)

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015

Totally managed to miss the Titan RTX, dang!

runaway dog
Dec 11, 2005

I rarely go into the field, motherfucker.
Bundling might be getting a bit out of hand

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Lurikeenrock
May 19, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
do i miss out much in using a 3.0 riser over a 4.0?
Can someone recommend me one that is well priced and not crap? Just the cable, not a whole mounting kit.

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