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Shear Modulus posted:EOL because they'll be making the next gen of cards or EOL because they're going to stop making the 3080 non-Ti and only sell the super expensive Ti version instead?
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The sad part is that AMD absolutely has/had a price competitive product in the 6800 and xt, but no stock.
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Jun 8, 2021 04:12
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Anyone seen movement on the 3080ti stepup
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Shear Modulus posted:people itt have said maybe two or three days. thanks for the responses. I entered the queue for 3080ti on the first day they were up on eVGA's site. That said, I was really lazy about it and it was probably noon on the day they listed them. i'm still cautiously optimistic until i have the new card in hand.
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Jun 8, 2021 04:42
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Yes I got to step 2
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Alan Smithee posted:Anyone seen movement on the 3080ti stepup yes. they've really "stepped up" the price if you ask me
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Jun 8, 2021 05:07
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If you got to step 2 then you pretty much will get the card and it's just a matter of a week or so of back and forth on the other steps.
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I got Step 2 on the 3090 today also; now I'm in a quagmire, because I have a 40% off coupon for EVGA Elite, which stacks with the associate's code, and so it could be 43% or more off the 3080 Ti I signed up for. I'm at 7:53 am on Thursday, and they got to 7:34 today and probably will hit 7:40 soon, although I expect 7:40-7:50 to drag along. The code is good through the end of July, so I'm not sure whether to just wait and see if I can get the 3080 Ti and pass on the 3090, get the 3090 and then ultimately get the 3080 Ti to sell to someone, or just go with the 3090. I don't think the Elite codes can be given to someone else, but it seems like a waste of a 40% code otherwise if I get the notification before it expires.
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SourKraut posted:I got Step 2 on the 3090 today also; now I'm in a quagmire, because I have a 40% off coupon for EVGA Elite, which stacks with the associate's code, and so it could be 43% or more off the 3080 Ti I signed up for. I'm at 7:53 am on Thursday, and they got to 7:34 today and probably will hit 7:40 soon, although I expect 7:40-7:50 to drag along. They apparently don't let you use the coupons on step up orders.
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it’s kind of darkly funny watching this thread both share the wider negative reaction to the 3080ti’s price and also have a sizeable contingent buying 3090s. how bad will the 3070ti’s RRP be, I wonder?
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Xaris posted:I think the latter seems extremely likely. AIB's have only been moving the more expensive premium versions of their models and the MSRP $699 models haven't budged or been sold since about the first batch. You can see with this EVGA's queuing list where only the premium models have budged at all and the base models haven't at all. I think Nvidia (and AIBs) realized that there's no point in selling a $699 card when you can just add slightly more vram and sell it for $1299, especially with limitations on manufacturing. There's not much need to stratify the line-up going from $100 to $1500 cards, especially since 3080 and TI are virtually the same card with only a few token changes, except just using the didn't-make-the-cut dies for a few slightly cheaper sku's to minimize waste. Nvidia rather underpriced the 3080 in anticipation of AMD having a killer-app and there's no reason for them to continue to really make it when for not really any more effort just slight tweaking allows them to sell a much more lucrative model at significantly more profit. Unless something vastly changes, I think the 3080 production is mostly done-for and seems to have been in the most recent lead-up. The 3080 and 3080ti are based on the same chip, and yield rates are still a thing. Do you think they're gonna start just throwing out all the GA102 chips that don't meet whatever standards they have for the ti?
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Sphyre posted:yes. they've really "stepped up" the price if you ask me 
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CoolCab posted:it’s kind of darkly funny watching this thread both share the wider negative reaction to the 3080ti’s price and also have a sizeable contingent buying 3090s. the 3080ti is so overpriced that at that point you might as well go whole hog since you're overpaying anyway
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CoolCab posted:it’s kind of darkly funny watching this thread both share the wider negative reaction to the 3080ti’s price and also have a sizeable contingent buying 3090s. The 3070ti's RRP was already announced at $599.
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Oooh, I did not know thank you! Have the specs been released too?
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Shear Modulus posted:They apparently don't let you use the coupons on step up orders. Yeah, I’d be using the coupon code on the 3080 Ti that I am on the normal notify queue for. So I’ve seen it work for those. The 3090 would be a step-up option i have, but it’d cost about $2000 after tax and of course I can’t use the coupon code.
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CoolCab posted:Oooh, I did not know thank you! Have the specs been released too? 
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The 3070ti is gonna be a pretty minor upgrade. The biggest boost in performance will come from the faster memory, which is not a common sales pitch when it comes to GPUs. It will be an interesting test case to see how impactful GDDR6X really is, at least.
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Some reviews I've read suggested the 3070 is bottlenecked by memory bandwidth at high (OC) clocks. If you think about this another way, the card the 3070 was most often compared to was the 2080Ti, they perform about the same but the 2080Ti has a 352-bit memory bus to avoid problems there. G6X would give the 3070Ti close to the same amount of bandwidth. So it might actually be an impactful change. We just have to wait for reviews to see how much. On the other hand, if that chart is right, the Ti uses almost 30% more power than the regular 3070. There's no way it's 30% faster, so it will likely be a much less efficient card, if that matters. I'm still going to try to get one through Step-Up, though.
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some pictures of 3080ti's show only 2 8pins. Is that in spec or are they recycling 3070 pictures? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B095W3S3LF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Lurikeenrock fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Jun 8, 2021 |
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Lurikeenrock posted:some pictures of 3080ti's show only 2 8pins. Is that in spec or are they recycling 3070 pictures? It only needs a third 8-pin if the board power is (able to be) higher than the stock 350W (since a card can get up to 375 from two 8-pin and the slot). I know the EVGA 3090 that has three 8-pins has an optional vBIOS that increases its power limit to 450W, so their 3080Ti may get something similar.
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Lurikeenrock posted:some pictures of 3080ti's show only 2 8pins. Is that in spec or are they recycling 3070 pictures? My MSI 3080Ti had got 3x 8 pin connectors, though it's the 'suprim' version. Edit: So far this thing is good but I cannot fathom somebody shelling out what I paid for it. It was only after some trades that I managed to be out of pocket something like £300. It's also really highlighted which games are well optimised and which aren't. Cyberpunk I can play at 1440p with everything maxed, same for Metro Exodus Enhanced, RDR2 drops to 50FPS in that situation, whilst Crysis Remastered scrapes 30, which is ridiculous for how it looks. Sir Sidney Poitier fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Jun 8, 2021 |
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Jun 8, 2021 08:18
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looking like 70 TI FE BB might be online only GG QQ KK
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Scan is using pre-built parts to clear its preorder backlog - my replacement EVGA 3080 came packaged in just an anti-static bag, no box, and it's got a 3XS (their in-house SI brand) label on the backplate.
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Alan Smithee posted:looking like 70 TI FE BB might be online only GG QQ KK RIP anyone trying to get one, drat that sucks
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Scan has 3060ti bundled with a ryzen 5 5600 for £800 Now I'm double guessing buying it, since I'll buy it for my VR mostly and in not sure how much extra performance it'll give me to my 1060 6gb
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Fingerless Gloves posted:Scan has 3060ti bundled with a ryzen 5 5600 for £800 3060Ti is basically a 1080Ti that will let you use DLSS. Definitely a big step up tbqh edit: actually it's quite a bit better than the 1080ti in a lot of benchmarks, even higher than the 2080 super sometimes
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Fingerless Gloves posted:Scan has 3060ti bundled with a ryzen 5 5600 for £800 that sounds like a worthwhile upgrade in this poster's opinion
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stump collector posted:I've been moved along to step 2/5 of the step up process, does anyone have recent experience on how long it takes them to check over an invoice? I put in for my 3090 Step-Up on Saturday 6/5 - still Step 1.
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Fingerless Gloves posted:Scan has 3060ti bundled with a ryzen 5 5600 for £800 That's an extremely good deal, particularly as there's every reason to believe the 5600 is going to be good for years and so that system will be prime for a gpu upgrade in a couple of generations time.
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It appears to be out of stock now anyway, I probably would've taken that deal on sight because that's a great CPU upgrade and a good GPU.
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The 3060ti is basically the perfect value card for 1080p or 1440p. All benchmarks indicate that it's perfectly smooth at max settings without ray tracing in almost every game out right now at those resolutions. RT capable with DLSS, and it should maintain its value for the next few years. If these were normal times, the 3060ti would be an extremely popular card. When it comes to VR, it's probably not gonna be able to handle any really high-fidelity VR games perfectly, but if you're already doing VR with a 1060, it would be a very big upgrade. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Jun 8, 2021 |
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I still have it in my basket, but I was mistaken, it's a 3060, not a ti
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Oh, that is a bit worse then, haha. Still a fair bit better than your 1060 (around 50 to 100% better framerates according to some benchmarks), but nowhere near worth that price. The non-ti 3060 is about equivalent to a regular 2070.
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So the EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra I managed to score last week runs pretty, pretty hot I had to set the power target in Precision X1 at ~85% because otherwise (at least in GPU-intensive games) the card was heating all the way up to 84 degrees and having to throttle its clocks. Setting a higher fan curve did help immensely with that but it was also, well, very loud. But lowering the power seems to have worked out just fine; only a marginal (1-2 frames) performance decrease and the temps stay below 80C. Just a heads up if anyone else lucks into one.
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Cross-Section posted:So the EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra I managed to score last week runs pretty, pretty hot Do you think you’d try to undervolt it a little? I did that on my 3080 FTW3 and with a little bit of an undervolt, the temps seemed significantly more modest for a tiny reduction in performance.
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At least your signal isn't straight up flickering like when GN tested their 3080ti. Just as 3090 was the card to teach people about how about backplates work, the 3080ti will be what makes underclocking mainstream.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Do you think you’d try to undervolt it a little? I did that on my 3080 FTW3 and with a little bit of an undervolt, the temps seemed significantly more modest for a tiny reduction in performance. I tried undervolting my last card (a Gigabyte 3080 Gaming OC) with the curve tuner in Afterburner, but I never could get the settings to stick for whatever reason. Over time, the curve would gradually move itself higher until it was basically identical to stock clocks. Might be different with X1, but it looks like setting a power limit seems to be a good enough substitute anyway.
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i don't know what people are talking about when they say undervolting doesn't affect things. i've definitely seen drops in temperature from doing it but every time i do it even when i use the "conservative" estimates of what a stable undervolt is i still occasionally see blue screens am i just doing it wrong? or maybe everyone else is more tolerant of the occasional blue-screen had this same problem with cpu overclocking as well, have a 9700k which everyone swears up and down is capable of hitting 5GHz allcore stably but i was never able to get it stable doing so
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Shipon posted:i don't know what people are talking about when they say undervolting doesn't affect things. i've definitely seen drops in temperature from doing it but every time i do it even when i use the "conservative" estimates of what a stable undervolt is i still occasionally see blue screens Undervolting is basically overclocking in that you're telling hardware to run at a higher frequency for a given voltage. There is no one size fits all number. If you're getting blue screens, your hardware probably needs more voltage for the frequency you're trying to run.
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