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Eschenique posted:You forgot about Dennis Miller. Yeah, no.
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Eschenique posted:You forgot about Dennis Miller. And I was happy about that, until you reminded me about him  E: also having listened to like 60 hours worth of 372 Pages We’ll Never Get Back, I’d be hard pressed to tell you that Mike Nelson was actually a Republican unless I’d known about it beforehand. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Oct 5, 2019 |
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Oct 5, 2019 17:47
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Twelve by Pies posted:How can there only be one when Mike Nelson also exists?
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Oct 5, 2019 17:56
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Jurgan posted:Yeah, no. Oh come on his 80s stuff is great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anHno8E4lGQ Plus he mistrusts trains so you know he's sensible.
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Oct 5, 2019 18:15
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His first joke is "if you're 35 and your job involves wearing a name tag you've made a serious vocational error" that hasn't aged too well 
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Oct 5, 2019 18:28
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Flesh Forge posted:His first joke is "if you're 35 and your job involves wearing a name tag you've made a serious vocational error" I'm getting there and pharmacists have to wear name tags. He's not wrong on that account I guess.
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Oct 5, 2019 18:40
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Eschenique posted:Oh come on his 80s stuff is great. Being anti-train is revisionist, to the gulag with you.
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Lightning Knight posted:Being anti-train is revisionist, to the gulag with you. You won't take me alive! 
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Oct 5, 2019 18:48
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There's no room for trains in the post-revolution future! Instead of trains limited by rail and power lines. There will be battery powered self driving trucks as far as the eye can see.
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Oct 5, 2019 18:56
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The guy who inspired Walter in The Big Lebowski is a conservative and is loving hilarious
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Oct 5, 2019 19:01
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Eschenique posted:You won't take me alive! 
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Oct 5, 2019 19:02
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Remulak posted:The dude that watched as the show’s creator and original host was forced out, then took his job? gently caress that guy forever. It was Jim Mallon that forced Joel out, Mike was only head writer. Mike had little clout to get him out, Joel could fire him back.
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BiggerBoat posted:Sorry about that. I read too much into your post . Yeah, it's cool, but I still think you're begging the question with that logical chain. It's unimpeachable in and of itself, but where does the second link come from? There's at least one Bible verse that says killing an unborn baby is not murder, since it's only punishable by a fine. https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-fetus-in-jewish-law/ There's some debate about how that should be interpreted, but it looks to me like serious Jewish scholars read it as "a fetus is not a full human," while partisan hacks try to read it the opposite. Anyway, it's clearly recorded that evangelicals supported legalizing abortion until the early 80's, when guys like Frank Schaeffer glommed onto the "pro-life movement" because evangelicalism needed a new cause to rally around now that being openly segregationist was less acceptable. So I would say that most people who say abortion is murder don't say that based on any sort of principle. It's just hearing it repeated for decades that makes them accept it without question. As for bombing Iran, one could say that God wants holy war based on the book of Joshua, where Joshua's army ethnically cleanses the entire holy land of the various peoples living there. I don't think it's a good argument, but I'll bet someone has made it. Again, don't take any of this as an accusation, just my view on how best to deal with the issue. In the public square, I'd argue that none of this matters because freedom of religion means you can't legislate based on religious beliefs. But I still wouldn't let a right wing fringe claim that they alone possess the correct religious viewpoint.
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Jurgan posted:But I still wouldn't let a right wing fringe claim that they alone possess the correct religious viewpoint. As an atheist, I don't even pretend to think that anyone does or that any religious viewpoint is correct. I'm just looking for a vein of consistency that I can at least identity with and pretend to at least find a point of engagement. But then I see poo poo like this http://www.newshounds.us/tucker_carlson_distancing_from_trump_no_way_ukraine_call_good_idea_100419 followed 3 hours later by this http://www.newshounds.us/fox_tucker_carlson_accused_democrats_making_up_ukraine_scandal_in_print_changed_tune_100419|| and see now way whatsoever to engage in a discussion. Never even mind religion. This is like arguing with members of a cult. This constant barrage of hypocrisy, lies, blatant contradictions, moving of the goal posts, rationalizations and what have you is overwhelming and, from where I sit, by design from the folks propagating it. Probably not by the true believers and real followers, but certainly by most of the RWM and the GOP. Donald Trump doesn't believe in or care about anything except himself and his bank statement. Same with Limbaugh, Hannity and the lot. Their narcissistic self interests I can at least understand, but the slavish devotion of 30-40% of the country to the bulllshit they spew escapes my comprehension. PARTICULARLY the church going types and slef proclaimed Christians.
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Double post but I also saw this FOX News editorial from 45 years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lDb0Dn8OXE This was at one time widely considered to be comedy Don't read the comments
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Can someone link me to where the KKK or some other group was using the 'ok' hand sign to mean white power way back in the 80s or earlier? I can only find recent stuff about it
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Rex-Goliath posted:Can someone link me to where the KKK or some other group was using the 'ok' hand sign to mean white power way back in the 80s or earlier? I can only find recent stuff about it The KKK use the 'K' sign instead I thought?
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Pirate Radar posted:The guy who inspired Walter in The Big Lebowski is a conservative and is loving hilarious John Milius did some interviews with Soldier of Fortune in the 80's and was ranting about how Apocalypse Now and other Vietnam films were anti-American and the anti-American, liberal bias in Hollywood. It's pretty hilarious when you look at the films that came out during that decade and the fact that he was given work in this alleged environment. They let him make Red Dawn, which he probably believed could actually happen, and he thinks Hollywood has a liberal bias that won't accept "truth tellers" like him. His commentary track with Arnold Schwarzenegger on Conan the Barbarian is hilarious too. This is mostly because Arnold just makes really funny comments about everything.
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there are funny conservatives but there aren't any conservatives that are funny when it comes to politics.
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BiggerBoat posted:He said "blessed are the cheese makers. It's not meant to taken literally" In this case you are both kind of right- although it is logically consistent with certain interpretations of the Bible to be opposed to abortion, Evangelical opposition to abortion is not the result of sincere religious belief, but the result of a complex propaganda campaign meant to recruit evangelicals into the right-wing in order to provide cover for white supremacy. The Atlantic posted:One of the most durable myths in recent history is that the religious right, the coalition of conservative evangelicals and fundamentalists, emerged as a political movement in response to the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling legalizing abortion. The tale goes something like this: Evangelicals, who had been politically quiescent for decades, were so morally outraged by Roe that they resolved to organize in order to overturn it.
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Groovelord Neato posted:there are funny conservatives but there aren't any conservatives that are funny when it comes to politics. They can't reconcile the cardinal rule of good comedy, "don't punch down," with the core tenets of conservatism, which is all about punching downward.
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Hey all. Can anyone think of any examples of the Whitehouse censoring/pressuring media? Or perhaps Fox News or otherwise a giant company? I’m working on a video about censorship. For the Whitehouse I have them bitching about The Hunt until it was cancelled and also way back a Bush staffer getting offended by Bill Maher and his show getting cancelled
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BiggerBoat posted:Don't read the comments Why didn't I listen?  People are idiots.
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Groovelord Neato posted:there are funny conservatives but there aren't any conservatives that are funny when it comes to politics. Not true. In order to be funny you need to have humanity and empathy, Most conservatives don't have those so they end up all being like Steven Crowder.
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ManBoyChef posted:Not true. In order to be funny you need to have humanity and empathy, Most conservatives don't have those so they end up all being like Steven Crowder. I still can't believe he made a video sitting at a fireplace in a robe bitching about loving labor day. Even for him that was pretty blatant and brainless.
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https://twitter.com/MattLech/status/1179480833100587008
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nine-gear crow posted:They can't reconcile the cardinal rule of good comedy, "don't punch down," with the core tenets of conservatism, which is all about punching downward. I think the telling thing is that conservatives think they're punching up. They feel disempowered, and have been trained to blame the "elites" or anyone getting "handouts" for it. The jokes fall flat outside of the conservative bubble because that worldview is completely at odds with reality.
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Did Dennis Miller ever actually say "Bop, bop, bop", or is that purely a Majority Report dunk thing?
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So the "Do nothing Democrats " seems to be the order of attack. I've seen it in both politoons and in RNC attack ads on a local candidate. "Why aren't they working to fix our problems, instead of playing politics? " Which is galaxy brain levels of projection and "Hey, look over there!" Funny how they don't get specific about what the Democrats actually are doing. Wonder why.
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MrUnderbridge posted:So the "Do nothing Democrats " seems to be the order of attack. I've seen it in both politoons and in RNC attack ads on a local candidate. "Why aren't they working to fix our problems, instead of playing politics? " lol, the do-nothing democrats. This is such painfully stupid. They spend how many years digging into Benghazi? Did they ever send a loving bill to Obama's desk between 2014 and 2016 that wasn't just a CR to keep government open?
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The do nothing Democrats that nominated a Supreme Court justice who never got a hearing.
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Calico Heart posted:Hey all. Can anyone think of any examples of the Whitehouse censoring/pressuring media? Or perhaps Fox News or otherwise a giant company? I’m working on a video about censorship. What exactly happened to the Dixie Chicks? I knew they were exiled from public life after daring to criticize the Iraq War but I don't remember if that was at the behest of Cheney/Rove or if that was a spontaneous burst of reactionary bile from the zeitgeist of the time.
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Sorry, how many hours ago did Mitch loving McTurtle smile and brazenly trumpet around for the Republican base the was the Grim Reaper of legislation? I just can't remember that long ago. Which is mostly just me venting, Nazis don't give a gently caress about that hypocrisy obviously.
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"Those do-nothing Democrats not working on all those socialist policies we'll never let them pass. How dare they!" 
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:What exactly happened to the Dixie Chicks? I knew they were exiled from public life after daring to criticize the Iraq War but I don't remember if that was at the behest of Cheney/Rove or if that was a spontaneous burst of reactionary bile from the zeitgeist of the time. I can't recall anyone in the actual Bush administration saying anything about them. I think it started with a few radio stations Taking a Stand for Are Troops and announcing they would no longer be playing their music, and it snowballed from there with the help of talk radio.
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MrUnderbridge posted:So the "Do nothing Democrats " seems to be the order of attack. I've seen it in both politoons and in RNC attack ads on a local candidate. "Why aren't they working to fix our problems, instead of playing politics? "
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Calico Heart posted:Hey all. Can anyone think of any examples of the Whitehouse censoring/pressuring media? Or perhaps Fox News or otherwise a giant company? I’m working on a video about censorship. How far back do you want to go? When Martha Mitchell tried to break the Watergate break-in story (which was itself an attempt to gaslight someone) Nixon gaslit her so hard loving that psychologists had to invent a new term to describe it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT4yqsoWjR8 (not the most scholarly of videos on the subject but I like Drunk History and this dude is absolutely trashed)
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Vichan posted:
It's funny because that's not what they meant. Literally no editors lol.
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