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Hunter Noventa posted:The other Ferengi ships have those, but the Nandi is Epic Phoenix box, and the Quark is a lockbox ship.
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Somewhat belatedly,OGS-Remix posted:Just remember you're still running a beam boat and not a cannon/sci build so don't expect to evaporate entire clusters of enemies instantly. ...your ideas intrigue me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. (Cannons on a science ship? How does that work?) e: also, am I correct to believe that I never have to explicitly seek out dilithium ore and will continue to collect it faster than I can refine it as long as I keep messing around with the admiralty system and doffs and suchlike? And that, therefore, I should think extremely carefully about spending dilithium for anything (not hoard it infinitely, but be sure I don't drop it on some white doffs or anything)? FredMSloniker fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Jun 18, 2022 |
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FredMSloniker posted:Somewhat belatedly, For a cannon-sci ship, here's a good guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/stobuilds/comments/loqwgv/gyffredinedds_guide_to_dew_focused_sci_part_1/ It can be a bit expensive to build, in terms of real $$, but I flew this back in April for a bit and it was fun. On the DIL question, I'd say yes- if you consistently do Admiralty you should start somewhat ahead of the 8000/day refinement amount. If you slip a bit, you can usually make it up by running the regular event and doing endeavours. I don't know about extremely careful, but yeah it help to prioritize a bit as you build a nest egg of refined DIL.
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Basically all your early dill should go towards ships. Find a build that you like the basic idea of - beams, cannons, etc - and look up what the must have ship traits, consoles etc are. Ask here and we can give you a shopping list. Tldr is that whatever you end up wanting as your long term goal you probably want a presidio and an arbiter as your first T6 ships as those are mega useful traits. Hoard your dill and buy zen when you can and wait for a T6 ship sale. They happen every so often, usually a pretty steep one at Christmas worst case. Think we just had a 25%. Napkin math it should take about four months of daily dill to get enough zen for a ship at non sale prices. If you’re farming you can cut that down.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Basically all your early dill should go towards ships. Find a build that you like the basic idea of - beams, cannons, etc - and look up what the must have ship traits, consoles etc are. Ask here and we can give you a shopping list. Presidio? This is the first I've heard of it being an important ship to grab.
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FredMSloniker posted:Somewhat belatedly, Sorry I meant to say a cannon focused boat or science power focused boat. Sci boats can use any weapons but usually all their power will in in Aux so weapon damage will be lower then a full power one. revtoiletduck posted:Presidio? This is the first I've heard of it being an important ship to grab. Presidio has All Hands on Deck which is a very good cooldown reducing ship trait. It's still solid these days even with so many other cooldown reducing traits.
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OGS-Remix posted:Sorry I meant to say a cannon focused boat or science power focused boat. Speaking of cannons, I seem to recall someone earlier in the thread saying certain kinds of cannons were a trap. If I build a cannon boat, do I want duals, dual heavies, quads, or wide arcs?
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FredMSloniker posted:Speaking of cannons, I seem to recall someone earlier in the thread saying certain kinds of cannons were a trap. If I build a cannon boat, do I want duals, dual heavies, quads, or wide arcs? It's the single cannons that have a 180° firing arc that are a trap. They just don't trade off the power for firing angle that cannons-to-beam-arrays do.
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Fred- I don't know if anyone shared this with you, but as you start to go down the road of trying to optimize our ship, DPS League is usually the best, most straightforward way to start (r/stobuilds is ok, but I find their formats for posting builds unreadable at times because they don't just post a screenshot of their space skills or bridge officer skills). For example- here's their 'state of the art' Beam Build: guide: https://www.sto-league.com/beam-ships-in-the-current-century/ This is more oriented to people looking to spend $$ on their builds, but you can pick through it to ID trends and directions for what to build, and as long as you don't try to obsess on the universal console recommendations you can do most of a budget build reading it. A few additional notes when reading: 1) I think a few people here have mentioned- you probably want to stick to Beam Overload for the time being, as opposed to Fire at Will for a starting beam boat 2) I'd suggest ignoring the BOFF species recommendations in the article- that's a thing that really only plays in to the toppest-of-top end builds 3) You'll see the term Aux2Batt and A2B appearing here, and I don' know if anyone here went it to it much lately. So maybe worth going over here. Aux 2 Batt refers to a strategy devised early on in the game by players to reduce BOFF Skill cooldowns, which maximizes the uptime of skills like beam overload or attack pattern beta, maximizing your DPS and combat effectiveness. Aux 2 Batt more specifically refers to an Engineering BOFF skill 'Auxiliary to Battery', which dumps your Aux power in to your weapon/shield/engine power for a bit. That doesn't, in itself, do anything for cooldowns. BUT- enterprising young players discovered that there are Technician Duty officers who, when put on active duty, reduce BOFF Skill recharge time when you activate Aux 2 Batt, turning that very niche boff skill in to a critical build component for a lot of players. Key to this is to get 3 of those Technician DOFFs at the purple/very rare level. You can grind them out doing colonization cluster missions, but I think you can also find a few on the exchange or buying them from the Duty Officer cat-man at the Academy too. Drop all 3 in to your active space DOFF section, put the lowest level of Aux 2 Batt in your engineer seating, and A2B to your Spam Bar, and you're done  You'll see sometimes references as well to Aux2Batt and Half2Batt as well. Early on it was more common to run 2 copies of A2B to maximize its cooldown impact- that was 'full' A2B. Now, it's a lot more common to run 1copy (half2batt) and rely on other secondary cooldown options. One easy option is to use the Photonic Officer skill on one of your science BOFFs. Another is to rely on Space Traits or Reputation Traits to help with cooldowns...I believe the trait Chrono Capacitor Array used alongside a Half2Batt gets you pretty close to the max cooldown reduction most players can manage. Now- one downside of A2B is that it does cause your Aux power to drop to nothing while using- so Science skills and science ships basically can't use it. But as a Beam ship, you don't care . Also as time has gone one, more effective or at least more preferred cooldown options have been created- improved versions of Photonic Officer, buying a very populat Lobi Store trait called Boimler Effect...but one nice thing about A2B is it's very cheap now to build around. You don't need any special ship traits or anything.Anyways- happy hunting!
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:Fred- I don't know if anyone shared this with you, but as you start to go down the road of trying to optimize our ship, DPS League is usually the best, most straightforward way to start (r/stobuilds is ok, but I find their formats for posting builds unreadable at times because they don't just post a screenshot of their space skills or bridge officer skills). As an addendum, STOBETTER is a more recent site that has a selection of guides aimed at budget/fre-to-play builds of all types as well.
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OGS-Remix posted:Presidio has All Hands on Deck which is a very good cooldown reducing ship trait. It's still solid these days even with so many other cooldown reducing traits.
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History Will Remember (Narendra and t6 vor'cha) is another good one to get.
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If I wanna experiment with different kinds of ships, T5s are the best I can get without paying cash money (or benefiting from someone else having paid cash money), right?
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Free T6 Temporal Battlecruiser keys are probably still around. You can also get T6 from events but I never have. Dil farming into Zen conversion into Z-Store Ship is the other f2p way. Feel like T5 will be mostly a waste of time you could be directing towards working towards a T6 or kitting one out
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FredMSloniker posted:If I wanna experiment with different kinds of ships, T5s are the best I can get without paying cash money (or benefiting from someone else having paid cash money), right? The summer event on Risa will be starting soon and it rewards a free T6 ship, but no guarantees that it'll be any good. This year looks like it's going to be a weird one.
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Free T6 Temporal Battlecruiser keys are probably still around. I got one of those, thanks. Pondering an escort build, though.
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There's plenty of T5 infinity ships on the exchange usually, for an affordable price. You can do any standard content in a T5 ship no problem with a competent build.
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Hunter Noventa posted:There's plenty of T5 infinity ships on the exchange usually, for an affordable price. You can do any standard content in a T5 ship no problem with a competent build. That's a good idea. I've heard that the Hirogen T5 escort in particular is still quite solid. Jem'hadar characters start with a T5-U version of the attack ship, but I think you would need the crossfaction flying to unlock it on your main.
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revtoiletduck posted:The summer event on Risa will be starting soon and it rewards a free T6 ship, but no guarantees that it'll be any good. This year looks like it's going to be a weird one. We should be getting stats for it this week, if they keep to the usual pattern.
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I am eagerly waiting to see what sort of clusterfuck the servers will be this year. Past few years the instance servers could barely keep running for whatever reason and all that rubber banding is going to snap eventually. 
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revtoiletduck posted:That's a good idea. I've heard that the Hirogen T5 escort in particular is still quite solid. You should just need to master the ship on your JH character. Though unlike some other ships, you have to pay dil to buy one for your other characters. But it's like, 10k max, i don't recall exact numbers. Cross-faction flying is only for Fed/KDF ships on the opposing faction.
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Hunter Noventa posted:You should just need to master the ship on your JH character. Though unlike some other ships, you have to pay dil to buy one for your other characters. But it's like, 10k max, i don't recall exact numbers. That's not correct. Cross-faction flying is for any ship once you have a klank that hits 65. There are some early T6 Jem'Hadar Vanguard ships that have to be unlocked by hitting Mastery 6 on a Jemmy, but that's because they were the weird early experiment. Everything since then is unlocked from the jump if you have a KDF-65 in your roster. That means you can buy a rom warbird for your discovery captain to level in, or stick your Jemmy in a legendary defiant. And CFF is not just for T6 stuff. All the lower-level ships are unlocked for purchase. The only real value is for filling up your Admiralty roster.
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I just want to know how weird this is: sitting at about 315K unrefined and refining 8k daily. I was at about 200K unrefined and refining daily before it ballooned even further. Lol?
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Perry Mason Jar posted:I just want to know how weird this is: sitting at about 315K unrefined and refining 8k daily. I was at about 200K unrefined and refining daily before it ballooned even further. Lol? This is perfectly normal, actually.
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Dunno who's in charge of the fleet projects, but K-13 currently has an empty slot and has for a bit. I want places to donate my fleet stuff!
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Perry Mason Jar posted:I just want to know how weird this is: sitting at about 315K unrefined and refining 8k daily. I was at about 200K unrefined and refining daily before it ballooned even further. Lol?
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Yeah that's on my main and I use 4 toons total (Fed/Jem Fed/KDF; 65) (KDF Temporal Agent, 22) but only my main is grinding reps and TFOs and it adds up quick. Plus the main has a ton of admiralty cards and the admiralty system pumps out Dil but I don't want to invest in cards for the other 65s so I can really only get about 2k daily each from the 3 alts. I'm about halfway to a Z-Store ship and I managed to work my EC up to about 340mil. Gotta figure out where to get most bang for buck for my first kitted T6. I only have Bajoran Interceptor and Temporal Battlecruiser right now. Perry Mason Jar fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jun 21, 2022 |
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Perry Mason Jar posted:I'm about halfway to a Z-Store ship and I managed to work my EC up to about 340mil. Gotta figure out where to get most bang for buck for my first kitted T6. I only have Bajoran Interceptor and Temporal Battlecruiser right now.
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g0del posted:Arbiter/Kurak/Morrigu. If you want to use energy weapons at all, you want the trait that's on those ships. Arbiter at least is also a pretty solid ship. Not S-tier top of everyone's list or anything, but a really solid ride if you're just getting into T-6 stuff. I used one as my main for years.
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FredMSloniker posted:Dunno who's in charge of the fleet projects, but K-13 currently has an empty slot and has for a bit. I want places to donate my fleet stuff! I slotted a new project, have at it!
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I appreciate your username. Also! I got a bunch of fleet provisions from the Delta Recruit cheevos. Are they used for anything other than slotting into the fleet projects as free spaces (very occasionally) arise?
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FredMSloniker posted:I appreciate your username. Also! I got a bunch of fleet provisions from the Delta Recruit cheevos. Are they used for anything other than slotting into the fleet projects as free spaces (very occasionally) arise? No they are not. My Gamma recruit had a crapton of them taking up space.
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Nah they're just for filling projects. And they're handy since usually they cost fleet credits so this way you can help push projects along and everyone wins.
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Asimo posted:Nah they're just for filling projects. And they're handy since usually they cost fleet credits so this way you can help push projects along and everyone wins. All right, I'll use 'em until they're used up and not worry about 'em otherwise.
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New lockbox shitheap, a 25th century version of the Styx. Trait sounds like it could be good, though. Edit: Still no stats, but the jellyfish has been dubbed a heavy cruiser - the other ships with that designation are the Excelsior, Cheyenne, and Zahl, all of which kind of suck. 
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Cythereal posted:
Sounds like the odds are good this will be the first good heavy cruiser
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Well, if nothing else, it's yet another EngShip for the admiralty system. (Seriously, they give the things out like candy.)
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Perry Mason Jar posted:My kingdom for a science ship admiralty card! Anniversary ship this year was one. Did you get the Pastak and Sally Ride?
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