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duckmaster posted:edit2: Oh ffs and he says that the PLA "train by landing on big white sandy beaches that look nothing like the west coast of Taiwan". His source is this: "It's obvious the Japanese aren't going to attack in Malaya - their training operations are taking place in Manchuria, and Manchuria looks nothing like Malaya!" I don't think China has any interest in starting any sort of wars, but that argument made me laugh regardless.
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sbaldrick posted:Given how China didn't really give a gently caress about naval matters till about 20 years ago and are now on the verge of a full scale blue-water force they have come a long way. They still aren't likely to actively destroy large parts of the American fleet like the Russian one would (Everyone admits the reason that not a single American warship went near the Bosporus during the Ukrine Crisis is the Black Sea fleet would blow them to poo poo) in 20 years the worlds ocean will look different. Especially with China's massive economic links in Africa. ??? We have ships in the black sea right now! We had frigates and destroyers in the black sea constantly. We even had Su-24s buzz our DDGs too. We had a carrier outside the black sea, but within strike distance for about a month.
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The balance of military power is in the US's hands... even in the heady days of the soviet union we were roughly at parity.
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Baloogan posted:??? The Black Sea is subject to the Montreux Convention which means ships from non-Black Sea states can't enter it if they are over a certain tonnage (this includes all US carriers) or have guns over a certain calibre. They are also only allowed to stay in the Black Sea for a certain period of time, I think a month? So technically if the US wanted to put a fleet in there it would be illegal; and any fleet that had small enough ships to be there legally would admittedly not be a match for Russias Black Sea Fleet. But yeh, the US is maintaining a limited presence. Not enough to actually put up a fight if they were attacked, but enough that they could cover a quick withdrawal to the eastern Med where half the ships in NATO are gathering to hold some conveniently timed wargames.
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 Manchukuo: Surprisingly fun to say  Countries that recognized Manchukuo in green.  Nothing to do with Manchukuo, but here's a map of the all the territorial claims of the Republic of China (aka Taiwan). I'm surprised they still claim Mongolia.
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More French European election maps! Votes for the Front National.  Votes for the PS/PRG alliance.  Votes for UDI/Modem (Bayrou's centrists) and UMP.  e: Also, Front de Gauche and extreme left.  Others here: http://www.slate.fr/france/87669/cartes-europeennes-2014
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Soviet Commubot posted:More French European election maps! Why is the southeast so much more to the left?
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This map seems rather dubious. Our Lady of Bellefonte Hospital (Kentucky) employs about 1200 people, which is not even close to the largest employer in the state; the source the mapmakers used apparently claims it employs 12000 (which should still not be the largest employer). Of course, that's not nearly as bad as the company listed for Pennsylvania, who are claimed to have 55555 employees by the source but according to their LinkedIn are somewhere closer to ten.
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Farecoal posted:Nothing to do with Manchukuo, but here's a map of the all the territorial claims of the Republic of China (aka Taiwan). I'm surprised they still claim Mongolia.
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Farecoal posted:Why is the southeast so much more to the left? Surely you mean southwest. 
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Verus posted:Surely you mean southwest. Yeah, whoops Peanut President posted:Government can't create jobs.jpg Even when just talking about that map, couldn't public universities count as government? Or at least public sector
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I really hope the employment information for Alaska is correct on that map.
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How does Broadview Networks employ so many people in the Atlantic ocean? Also why is Hawaii occupied by the PRC?
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That map is a little misleading, considering that the largest employer isn't the University of North Carolina, but the University of North Carolina system which includes 15 other schools, not just the flagship at Chapel Hill. If you split the universities up, I'm pretty sure that Bank of America / Merrill Lynch would be the biggest.
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Anchorage's airport is named after the "series of tubes" guy? Huh.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The Republic of China is a rebellious Chinese province, it has no right to denounce claims. The PRC doesn't claim Mongolia though. 
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computer parts posted:The PRC doesn't claim Mongolia though.
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No Safe Word posted:Anchorage's airport is named after the "series of tubes" guy? Huh. He was a long-term senator who brought a lot of earmarks to the state, so he's somewhat popular there.
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Going what someone said about PA, all I did was google, "largest employer in Pennsylvania", and the state website gave me these listings which puts #1 as Wal-Mart. I have a feeling this is the case in a lot of states. http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=1222720&mode=2
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Maybe the largest employer headquartered in each state? Or something similar?
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The source says that company has 55,555 EEs in PA. Maybe instead of the number of employees of CPA, it's the number of CPAs in PA. Whatever it is, they screwed up. Businessinsider pulled their article about it Nope, the Department of Labor just has a terrible website. http://www.acinet.org/oview6.asp?soccode=&stfips=42&from=State&id=11&nodeid=12 esquilax fucked around with this message at 16:28 on May 28, 2014 |
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Kakairo posted:He was a long-term senator who brought a lot of earmarks to the state, so he's somewhat popular there. He also died in a plane crash, I'm guessing after they named the airport after him.
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Farecoal posted:
Good to know that Occitania and Greater Germany support them.
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e X posted:Good to know that Occitania and Greater Germany support them. Judging by the shape of Poland, Italian Somaliland/ Abyssinia, Vichy France, Two Yemens, Independent Tibet, FWA, French Indochina, and a pre-split Indian subcontinent, I'd say this is a map set during WW2. So that's Vichy France, post-Anschluss Germany, Axis Finland, and Franco's Spain all recognizing Manchuko. Interesting that the USSR is the only Ally recognizing. And what are you doing over there El Salvador? Why do you have a stake in this?
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oldswitcheroo posted:Judging by the shape of Poland, Italian Somaliland/ Abyssinia, Vichy France, Two Yemens, Independent Tibet, FWA, French Indochina, and a pre-split Indian subcontinent, I'd say this is a map set during WW2. So that's Vichy France, post-Anschluss Germany, Axis Finland, and Franco's Spain all recognizing Manchuko. Interesting that the USSR is the only Ally recognizing. And what are you doing over there El Salvador? Why do you have a stake in this? As I understand, the USSR recognized Manchukuo before Barbarossa as part of some neutrality agreements with Japan because they didn't want to be distracted from European affairs by a war in the far east.
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oldswitcheroo posted:Judging by the shape of Poland, Italian Somaliland/ Abyssinia, Vichy France, Two Yemens, Independent Tibet, FWA, French Indochina, and a pre-split Indian subcontinent, I'd say this is a map set during WW2. So that's Vichy France, post-Anschluss Germany, Axis Finland, and Franco's Spain all recognizing Manchuko. Interesting that the USSR is the only Ally recognizing. And what are you doing over there El Salvador? Why do you have a stake in this?  Kind of amazing how much expectation shape our perception. Now that you say it, yes, it's pretty obvious that it is a WWII map. There goes my witty remark.
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Pakled posted:As I understand, the USSR recognized Manchukuo before Barbarossa as part of some neutrality agreements with Japan because they didn't want to be distracted from Germany's inevitable betrayal by a war in the far east. I knew it had something to do with their late entry into the war. We got any Salvadorian foreign policy experts ITT to explain El Salvador? Also I'm assuming Western Sarhara was under Spanish rule at this time, is that correct?
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What's with the orange dots in China and India?
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El Salvador was obviously hoping Japan would assist them in recreating the Federal Republic of Central America.
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Radio Prune posted:What's with the orange dots in China and India? Other Japanese client states that, unlike Manchukuo, never controlled all of their claimed territory. Inner Mongolia is Mengjiang, Central China is the Wang Jingwei Government, and India is Azad Hind.
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Huh I never knew the INA actually bothered with setting up a government in 'exile'.
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e X posted:Good to know that Occitania and Greater Germany support them. Bonus: Germany was actually supporting the Chinese at the beginning to ensure their precious rubber supply. The Japanese promised to keep it rolling so the Germans eventually switched. Surprise, after the initial shipment the Japanese stopped deliveries! At least those 8000+ tons of natural rubber lasted the entire war. As it turns out to make artificial rubber you still need a bit of natural one.
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Riso posted:Bonus: Germany was actually supporting the Chinese at the beginning to ensure their precious rubber supply. Wasn't Germany also lending some of their generals to educate and develop the ROC Army just prior to the Japanese invasion?
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 Chiang Wei-kuo, Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek's adopted son, received military training in Germany Sino-German cooperation until 1941
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Hogge Wild posted:
His other son, Ching-kuo, who ultimately became President of the ROC, was trained in the Soviet Union and married a Belorussian woman. The Chiangs are a fun family. Der Kyhe posted:Wasn't Germany also lending some of their generals to educate and develop the ROC Army just prior to the Japanese invasion? You're thinking of Alexander von Falkenhausen, who is a pretty interesting character in his own right. He became a close personal friend of the Chiangs and was apparently very pissed off about the Japanese invasion. Also earlier in Chiang Kai-shek's reign, he had some flirting with National Socialism and even had his own gang of Blue Shirts.
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oldswitcheroo posted:I knew it had something to do with their late entry into the war. For some reason I know this! The story goes that Manchukuo was desperately trying to gain recognition from other countries so they didn't look like a puppet state of Japan. One of the more sly ways of doing this was by sending out official communiques to foreign governments in the hope they'd receive an official response, thus giving them de facto recognition. In El Salvadors case, they sent one simply wishing the government and people of El Salvador a Merry Christmas. The person who received the message in El Salvador had been told to pass on mail to the relevant departments and politely reply to any of the other crap. A diplomatic officer would have noticed that this sort of thing wasn't to be replied to, smiled and thrown it away, but the junior secretary left on duty didn't and sent a polite message back wishing a Merry Christmas to the government and people of Manchukuo. Manchukuo seized on this immediately and claimed it counted as recognition. El Salvador refused to comment for a few months, during which time there may have been some "incentives" offered by the Japanese government, before officially giving recognition to the state. Those incentives were probably easier to give as the President of El Salvador was a strong Nazi supporter and anti-Communist. El Salvador was only the second state to recognise Manchukuo after Japan and ended up having several Nazi-run presses and radio stations. However they radically altered their position after Pearl Harbour due to strong dependence on the US economy and declared war on both Germany and Japan in 1941, interning nationals of both countries.
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Map of Stereotypes. So big even timg takes a long time to load. Source
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Pakled posted:Map of Stereotypes. So big even timg takes a long time to load. timg still loads the same picture. It's the browser that shrinks it afterwards.
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