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DrBouvenstein posted:I just saw the ep where Tom, having previously been demoted from lieutenant back down to ensign, gets promoted back to lieutenant. "I didn't notice a little box on MY chair..." *Awkward silence*
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:"I didn't notice a little box on MY chair..." Stop complaining, or I'll send you and Naomi Wildmann back to your original dimension!
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May 19, 2024 02:34
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redshirt posted:*Harry sitting in the big chair during 3rd shift, again..... In his seventh year of being an Ensign, when he should probably be a Lieutenant-Commander and Second Officer by then if he's running third-shift command.
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May 19, 2024 02:36
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Advancement seems pretty drat slow in Starfleet if Picard commanding Stargazer for 22 years is any indication.
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May 19, 2024 02:42
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Advancement seems pretty drat slow in Starfleet if Picard commanding Stargazer for 22 years is any indication. Didn't slow down Tom Paris, apparently...
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May 19, 2024 02:52
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Kirk became a full Captain relatively quickly. Kim was still an Ensign after 7 years, whereas Kirk went from Ensign to Captain in about 12.
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May 19, 2024 02:53
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They're also stranded with no replacement officers, and given they were down a good chunk of senior staff to begin with you'd think they'd be fast-tracking an Ensign with some talent and career ambitions would be a high priority.
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May 19, 2024 03:03
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It's clearly 90's racism
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Neddy Seagoon posted:They're also stranded with no replacement officers, and given they were down a good chunk of senior staff to begin with you'd think they'd be fast-tracking an Ensign with some talent and career ambitions would be a high priority. Why bother? Nobody's transferring off the ship, no positions are gonna open up. If they had started recruiting and gotten more people to do the tasks at the bottom of the command structure it'd make sense.
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May 19, 2024 03:16
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Why bother? Nobody's transferring off the ship, no positions are gonna open up. If they had started recruiting and gotten more people to do the tasks at the bottom of the command structure it'd make sense. Positions will open up, via triage. Folks die, and other folks need to step up.
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May 19, 2024 03:19
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Why bother? Nobody's transferring off the ship, no positions are gonna open up. If they had started recruiting and gotten more people to do the tasks at the bottom of the command structure it'd make sense. Yeah, but he's an ensign manning a station on the main shift that easily could be manned by a Lieutenant or Lieutenant (jg). They should have promoted him just to give him seniority over the people on the other shifts.
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May 19, 2024 03:23
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harry will always be janeways special little boy ...always 
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May 19, 2024 03:26
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redshirt posted:Positions will open up, via triage. Folks die, and other folks need to step up. Yeah but those were extras. You gotta kill at least a series regular to promote someone.
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May 19, 2024 03:31
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Yeah but those were extras. You gotta kill at least a series regular to promote someone. Didn't seem to slow down Tom
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May 19, 2024 04:29
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It does make me laugh that Voyager spends the 7 years with a grand total of three medical personnel, one of whom leaves the ship about halfway through the journey At no point does Janeway think to reassign anyone to medical
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May 19, 2024 04:33
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FlamingLiberal posted:It does make me laugh that Voyager spends the 7 years with a grand total of three medical personnel, one of whom leaves the ship about halfway through the journey I recall Paris having medical training; am I wrong?
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May 19, 2024 04:35
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redshirt posted:I recall Paris having medical training; am I wrong? He's included in the three: Kess, Tom, and the Doctor.
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Wifi Toilet posted:He's included in the three: Kess, Tom, and the Doctor.
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May 19, 2024 04:37
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There are a few times that it looks like Voyager is not going to have The Doctor, and it's ridiculous that all they have is Paris, who has very basic training but wouldn't be able to do surgery or anything complicated.
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May 19, 2024 04:38
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Sorry for the integrity of the EMH, but can't they always call up a new EMH if it came to that?
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May 19, 2024 04:39
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I think it's in 'Message in a Bottle', where they try to make a new Doctor from scratch and it's a disaster.
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May 19, 2024 04:41
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FlamingLiberal posted:There are a few times that it looks like Voyager is not going to have The Doctor, and it's ridiculous that all they have is Paris, who has very basic training but wouldn't be able to do surgery or anything complicated. It's easy. Point blue beam. Point red beam. Computer synthesize antivirus based on generic markers. Point Green beam. Hypospray of cordrazone point yellow beam, your spine is cured.
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May 19, 2024 04:45
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You point the tricorder at someone, and push a few buttons. How hard can it be? Do what the tricorder tells you to do.
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Worst case scenario you inject them with 25 CC's of Borg nanoprobes and stand 'em on an alcove for a bit.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Kirk became a full Captain relatively quickly. Kim was still an Ensign after 7 years, whereas Kirk went from Ensign to Captain in about 12. Hell in the JJ Trek movie it was more like 12 hours. I guess I can kind of understand a cadet taking command in some kind of emergency situation, but that was probably the dumbest thing about those movies. At the end he's apparently a full captain. That's a hell of a promotion. Lol "it was destiny" Although, I guess Wrath of Khan kind of sets the premise in that Lt. Saavik is training to be the next captain of the Enterprise. I forget if that's ever explicitly stated. And then it's also implied all those cadets will crew the Enterprise. I dunno, though, for all we know Saavik had served as an Ensign and went back to command school or something and she wasn't going to instantly become a captain after "passing" the Kobayashi Maru test. Mulaney Power Move fucked around with this message at 14:40 on May 19, 2024 |
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May 19, 2024 14:30
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How many of voyager’s crew died over the course of the journey?
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Mulaney Power Move posted:Hell in the JJ Trek movie it was more like 12 hours. I guess I can kind of understand a cadet taking command in some kind of emergency situation, but that was probably the dumbest thing about those movies. At the end he's apparently a full captain. That's a hell of a promotion. Lol "it was destiny" I think it was more Old Man Spock telling Starfleet to do it for the fate of the galaxy.
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May 19, 2024 14:52
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Scratch Monkey posted:How many of voyager’s crew died over the course of the journey? 110% if we count the silver blood.
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MikeJF posted:I think it was more Old Man Spock telling Starfleet to do it for the fate of the galaxy. Always listen to randos who just randomly show up from out of time and start making weird demands.
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May 19, 2024 15:23
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The hand wavey reason is that they lost all those ships and officers rescuing Vulcan. It's kind of nebulous what the scale of Starfleet is during various times, aside from Enterprise when we know there's only like two warp 5 ships. There's all those times when the Enterprise is the only ship near Earth. It's not really until TNG when we get a sense of scale with Wolf 359 being like 50 ships and the Admiral saying it will take a year to build the fleet back up, and then of course by DS9 we see they have fleets of hundreds of ships that just get wiped out every time they fight the Dominion.
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May 19, 2024 15:44
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On Picard season 3 when the fleet is supposedly gathered in it’s entirety at earth there are about 350 ships
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Mulaney Power Move posted:Hell in the JJ Trek movie it was more like 12 hours. I guess I can kind of understand a cadet taking command in some kind of emergency situation, but that was probably the dumbest thing about those movies. At the end he's apparently a full captain. That's a hell of a promotion. Lol "it was destiny" In Star Trek Starfleet has 3 main career paths, Command, Operations, and Science, each split into sub-specialties. Saavik was just the best rated cadet on the Command path, so she got to be the Captain (well actually the first officer, but they were letting her do as much captain stuff as they could). sweet geek swag fucked around with this message at 15:53 on May 19, 2024 |
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May 19, 2024 15:50
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Mulaney Power Move posted:The hand wavey reason is that they lost all those ships and officers rescuing Vulcan. It's kind of nebulous what the scale of Starfleet is during various times, aside from Enterprise when we know there's only like two warp 5 ships. There's all those times when the Enterprise is the only ship near Earth. It's not really until TNG when we get a sense of scale with Wolf 359 being like 50 ships and the Admiral saying it will take a year to build the fleet back up, and then of course by DS9 we see they have fleets of hundreds of ships that just get wiped out every time they fight the Dominion. Seems like they could spam warships anytime they wanted to, they just never chose to since they weren't at war, or at least a "hot" war.
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Scratch Monkey posted:On Picard season 3 when the fleet is supposedly gathered in it’s entirety at earth there are about 350 ships Which would presumably be less than during DS9 when they were losing 100 ships every battle.
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Scratch Monkey posted:How many of voyager’s crew died over the course of the journey? I think the count is 15, if you track by explicit depictions and mentions. But that doesn’t count the pilot ep.
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redshirt posted:Seems like they could spam warships anytime they wanted to, they just never chose to since they weren't at war, or at least a "hot" war. Yes, but can they spam crews? I think that was actually a plot point in DS9. Sisko says something like the real problem isn't how many ships they lost, but all the personnel.
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sweet geek swag posted:In Star Trek Starfleet has 3 main career paths, Command, Operations, and Science, each split into sub-specialties. Saavik was just the best rated cadet on the Command path, so she got to be the Captain (well actually the first officer, but they were letting her do as much captain stuff as they could). She was a Lt., though, so either she got promoted from Cadet to Ensign to Lt. JG to Lt. while still in school, or she served for a while and went back to school for the captain "learn to accept loss" mind game training. Or maybe ranks work differently then despite them seemingly being based directly on 20th century naval ranks. Who knows.
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Mulaney Power Move posted:Yes, but can they spam crews? I think that was actually a plot point in DS9. Sisko says something like the real problem isn't how many ships they lost, but all the personnel. There's billions and billions (trillions?) of Federation citizens. If they wanted to go to an actual war footing, crews would not be an issue.
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Mulaney Power Move posted:She was a Lt., though, so either she got promoted from Cadet to Ensign to Lt. JG to Lt. while still in school, or she served for a while and went back to school for the captain "learn to accept loss" mind game training. She's a cadet in Wrath of Khan and I assume her rank is temporary, but yeah, she's an actual Lieutenant a few days later on the Grissom in Star Trek 3, which makes no sense.
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redshirt posted:There's billions and billions (trillions?) of Federation citizens. If they wanted to go to an actual war footing, crews would not be an issue. When you think about it the Dominion was really at the disadvantage when it came to personnel. Could they really out-clone hundreds of planets reproducing naturally?
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