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KIT HAGS
Jun 5, 2007
Stay sweet

litany of gulps posted:

Why are HR people always so despicable? I don't think I've met a one that wasn't a nasty piece of work all around.

I had one interview where the woman got really nasty about the fact that I didn't put down every single job I've ever had, dating back to my first one in high school, got snippy when I told her some of the places I had worked closed a while ago (Blockbuster and something else) so I couldn't even provide contact info if I tried, and then when she found out that I don't speak fluent Spanish, told me, "But you're Hispanic--that's shameful."

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Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own
The reason HR people are so despicable is simple: Power corrupts. Simple as that. You see it everywhere from HR down to the lowly shift manager at McDonald's who thinks they're hot poo poo because they get paid $1 extra an hour and they get to put a little M next to their name.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
The people they're looking into hiring aren't their customers so there's no feedback mechanism to make them nicer.

It's also an incredibly unrewarding occupation. Not at all how I want to spend my time on this planet.

No Wave fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Mar 28, 2014

CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!

Coconut Indian posted:

"But you're Hispanic--that's shameful."

My (step) dad gets this all the time. I get this sometimes, because I share his last name, but in a way it's funny because I'm a freaking Pollock (well, Scott-Pole).

I agree, though. HR people, at least in retail, seem to absolute meddlers sometimes. I think I won my way into a job last time because I use to partly run a store that the HR lady use to shop at (which closed). But, when I asked for one of the 'safety' knives that is standard kit, she told me no, because I was "just a cashier and you'll just cut yourself." She also had the bad habit of "helping" in this area or that when she was bored, but she tended to do a worse job than the weekend-only team.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.
I've had the opposite experience retail HR has been helpful in removing a manager creating a hostile work environment. Its outside of retail that HR has been terrible and universally hated. I always hear how its so much effort to sort through all these applications, try doing data entry or anything related to a literature search. Its the same loving thing and its not hard to do but, it can get tedious.

MS Paint
Sep 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
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Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Forceholy posted:

The reason HR people are so despicable is simple: Power corrupts. Simple as that. You see it everywhere from HR down to the lowly shift manager at McDonald's who thinks they're hot poo poo because they get paid $1 extra an hour and they get to put a little M next to their name.

It's also because working in HR in the context of a retail or similar business is a thankless job that in my experience comes in two flavors: no actual power to do anything without getting management involved, who are rarely interested in making waves, or actual power and a whole lot of pressure to minimize costs and not make waves with the rarely spoken reminder that you're just as expendable as the actual retail workers. It's a toxic environment I'm glad I got out of.

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:

YF19pilot posted:

But, when I asked for one of the 'safety' knives that is standard kit, she told me no, because I was "just a cashier and you'll just cut yourself."

I hate this condescending bullshit. I'm "just a retail specialist" where I work now but I carry a Stanley knife and use chop boxes on a regular basis. Oh no, I'm just a cashier, I shouldn't be around power tools!

poo poo, when I worked at Dollar Tree, you pretty much HAD to carry around an S4 cutter even if you were a cashier, since cashiers are responsible for keeping the register area stocked with gum and candy bars and doodads and poo poo. Of course, did any of the cashiers but me have one? No. Even though the goddamn company gave the fuckin' things to you, since it HAD to be an S4. :cripes:

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax

D34THROW posted:

I hate this condescending bullshit. I'm "just a retail specialist" where I work now but I carry a Stanley knife and use chop boxes on a regular basis. Oh no, I'm just a cashier, I shouldn't be around power tools!

I can understand not wanting to encourage cashiers to wander away from their stations or even not wanting them to handle knives and other equipment, but an HR person should have a better reason than "because you're dumb." Heck, I've had people who were too dumb to handle blades and it wasn't that hard to pull them aside and tell them that I wanted them focused on customer service (read: running the drat register) because they're the friendliest, most professional or most experienced people in the store.

Wroughtirony
May 14, 2007



Today the cart attendant called in sick. Guess which cashier always does what she's told without copping an attitude and causing problems?



Today, it snowed most of the day except for when it was hailing. Did I mention my only jacket was a cotton hoodie?



I don't mind schlepping carts now and then, but there were six other cashiers there and the only reason we didn't rotate cart duty was that our manager is so conflict-averse and afraid of her employees that she didn't have the balls to tell everyone they had to do carts. Just me, because she knew I wouldn't give her any grief. Luckily it was a short shift.

I feel like I would be totally justified in calling in tomorrow morning claiming to have a horrible head cold.


(I won't.)

ijii
Mar 17, 2007
I'M APPARENTLY GAY AND MY POSTING SUCKS.

Wroughtirony posted:

Today the cart attendant called in sick. Guess which cashier always does what she's told without copping an attitude and causing problems?



Today, it snowed most of the day except for when it was hailing. Did I mention my only jacket was a cotton hoodie?



I don't mind schlepping carts now and then, but there were six other cashiers there and the only reason we didn't rotate cart duty was that our manager is so conflict-averse and afraid of her employees that she didn't have the balls to tell everyone they had to do carts. Just me, because she knew I wouldn't give her any grief. Luckily it was a short shift.

I feel like I would be totally justified in calling in tomorrow morning claiming to have a horrible head cold.


(I won't.)
It sucks being the go-to person at times, but it does pay off in more ways than you think.
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I was able to get a full week of vacation in without anybody calling me in to work, so I'm happy. Now if I can enjoy my other two weeks within the next two months, that'll be great. First day back today, and someone already called from another store to see if I'm available to work an extra day next week, but I can't because I'm already booked 6 days / 48 hours.

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:
So for the past two weeks, I've been hand-counting everything for physical inventory and today I took an hour to count the shop with our shop/service tech. Which meant I was done.

A couple hours later, I'm finishing up entering everything into my spreadsheet when the CFO calls and asks to talk to my boss...a few minutes later, I see her extension light go out and hear her do this frightening growl-yell thing. Okay, whatever, I'll leave it for later.

We're closing up, on our way out the door when I asked her what made her scream like that earlier.

The CFO told her he postponed physical inventory and forgot to email her. He's going to be coming for his visit tomorrow. I really hope my self-control is working tomorrow, because I don't want to scream at my boss's boss.

No loving matter, my boss said we're continuing with the plan and just tracking what goes out for the next month...oh, and the reason we're postponing? We're switching our company management software from QuickBooks to Microsoft NAV. I'm JUST learning QuickBooks's perks as POS software, and now we're supposed to be switching to loving NAV, which is ERP, not POS. :ssj:

Santheb
Jul 13, 2005

Costco goons: just found out I''ll be receiving my first bonus check. This is awesome.

I also have Saturday & Sunday off :toot:

Jingleheimer
Mar 30, 2006

Santheb posted:

Costco goons: just found out I''ll be receiving my first bonus check. This is awesome.

I also have Saturday & Sunday off :toot:

That's sweet, I probably won't be getting a bonus check until next year or the year after. Although I did make sure not to call off at all for the last year so I should be getting paid for all the sick time I didn't use next check.

I have to work the next 8 days, but that's the price I pay for having the last 3 days off and enjoying an incredible opening day, so I'm totally ok with that. I just hope I don't lose my mind by the time I get another day off.

less than three
Aug 9, 2007



Fallen Rib
Oh hey, Target has redone their (then 2011) union boogeyman video!

http://gawker.com/behold-targets-br...dium=socialflow

Wroughtirony
May 14, 2007



less than three posted:

Oh hey, Target has redone their (then 2011) union boogeyman video!

http://gawker.com/behold-targets-br...dium=socialflow



And one of the actors is a union member!

http://gawker.com/the-actors-in-targets-anti-union-video-a-liberal-an-1556974505

Krampus Grewcock
Aug 26, 2010

Gruss vom Krampus!
I remember when I got hired to Target half the other hires who watched their anti-union bullshit seemed to eat it up. :doh:



Also, when did they start putting their security in rent-a-cop uniforms? I thought having undercover security was preferable because you could tail shoplifters.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


I've had two Walmart training seminars in the distant past and each one of course had an anti-union video. There was eye-rolling all around each time. Gotta kill that workplace morale by talking down to new hires first thing.

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax
The only thing I remember from my Wal-Mart orientation was one video claiming 'eventually, one-third of all Americans will work at Wal-Mart.'

BrainToad
Dec 31, 2008

Krampus Grewcock posted:

I remember when I got hired to Target half the other hires who watched their anti-union bullshit seemed to eat it up. :doh:



Also, when did they start putting their security in rent-a-cop uniforms? I thought having undercover security was preferable because you could tail shoplifters.

When I got hired there and watched the video I believed it. I was pretty naive and my only experiences with unions had been just strikes and not why they were striking.

I think a lot of stores have both uniformed and undercover LP. The undercovers are super easy to spot though.

Corkscrew
May 20, 2001

Nothing happened. I'm Julius Pepperwood. Let it go.
HD has the same kind of videos and they're equally eye-rollable.

A large amount of shoplifters at retail stores are going to be drug addicts looking for something to flip for quick money or something they can return for a store credit they can sell. In all honesty you could be wearing a shirt that says "I will nail you for shoplifting" right in front of them and they'd still try.

Initio
Oct 29, 2007
!

BrainToad posted:

The undercovers are super easy to spot though.

I thought that the first undercover lp guy I saw in my store was some kind of perv. He was basically following this woman around the store, leaning in to peak at her just around the corner of the aisles.

I stopped him because he seemed sketchy as hell. He showed me his LP badge to prove who he was.

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:
Well, my boss had to go set up for a home show today, so I got left more or less in charge for half the day. Everything went smoothly and the building didn't burn down, so I guess it went pretty well. :unsmith:

Tomorrow's the first day of the home show, so I'm gonna be basically in charge again for half the day. Got a taste of her world, though. I put my lunch at my desk at 2 o'clock, come 4 o'clock I hadn't managed to finish it. Being pulled in 18 directions at once is certainly interesting, if a bit stressful.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE
Today I got to fill in for someone in the deli. I see an elderly gentleman standing near the chicken section, so I go to serve him. Apon asking what he'd like:

" gimme a pair of them chicken titties!"

creatine
Jan 27, 2012




The Lord Bude posted:

Today I got to fill in for someone in the deli. I see an elderly gentleman standing near the chicken section, so I go to serve him. Apon asking what he'd like:

" gimme a pair of them chicken titties!"

Having worked in a butcher shop/deli all my life this is the most common way to request chicken breast

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

Pumpy Dumper posted:

Having worked in a butcher shop/deli all my life this is the most common way to request chicken breast

You must have a weird customer base because I've never heard it before now, and my store is in one of the dodgiest areas around. (Admittedly I don't dirty my hands in the stinkier departments all that often.)

BrainToad
Dec 31, 2008

Initio posted:

I thought that the first undercover lp guy I saw in my store was some kind of perv. He was basically following this woman around the store, leaning in to peak at her just around the corner of the aisles.

I stopped him because he seemed sketchy as hell. He showed me his LP badge to prove who he was.

The old game of perv or LP. Sometimes they aren't mutually exclusive.

Wroughtirony
May 14, 2007



To transfer or not to transfer...


I work for a large company that rhymes with farget, and I work at a large store about a half hour's drive from my house. I live less than a mile from a smaller store. When I took to job, it was with the intention of trying to transfer to the store near my house, but I have come to really like the people I work with. Management likes me and there seems to be a real possibility for advancement there.

Is ~$100/mo in gas money really worth rolling the dice on a store where I don't know anyone? I've scoped it out a few times and talked to a few team members who said mostly positive things, but I'm pretty torn. Bird in the hand?

Keska
Jan 29, 2007
Persistent Lurker
Wait until enough of the coworkers/managers you like have left, then transfer. Not too many people stay in the same retail job for a long time.

Zeth
Dec 28, 2006

Cluck you say?
Buglord

Initio posted:

I thought that the first undercover lp guy I saw in my store was some kind of perv. He was basically following this woman around the store, leaning in to peak at her just around the corner of the aisles.

I stopped him because he seemed sketchy as hell. He showed me his LP badge to prove who he was.

That's pretty similar to my first encounter with one of ours, except it was another customer who came up to me all weirded out because some guy was tailing a girl.

ijii
Mar 17, 2007
I'M APPARENTLY GAY AND MY POSTING SUCKS.

Wroughtirony posted:

To transfer or not to transfer...


I work for a large company that rhymes with farget, and I work at a large store about a half hour's drive from my house. I live less than a mile from a smaller store. When I took to job, it was with the intention of trying to transfer to the store near my house, but I have come to really like the people I work with. Management likes me and there seems to be a real possibility for advancement there.

Is ~$100/mo in gas money really worth rolling the dice on a store where I don't know anyone? I've scoped it out a few times and talked to a few team members who said mostly positive things, but I'm pretty torn. Bird in the hand?
A 30 minute drive sucks rear end. Not only do you waste a lot of time on the road, you waste a lot of money on gas too. However, you did mention that you like working with the people you're currently with, and that is even more important. I had to work with a colossal poo poo head on two separate occasions. Both times I became severely depressed. It's amazing how hosed up some people are in retail and they take it out on others and manage to get away with it.

I vote for stay. Or is it possible to move closer to where you work?

Iakona
Jan 24, 2006

I'm going on six years at this massive retail company. I've been lower level management for the last 3 years working in the back room, and now on the front end. Even working terrible fast food jobs I have never worked for such a piece of poo poo manager in my life. I work overnights, and the way they're treated is just ridiculous. I previously worked at a store just 15 minutes away, and I respected and even looked up to my store manager. This management team comes in expecting the store to look perfect every morning, but its a loving mess at 10pm, and we don't even have enough people to stock the load let alone zone the store.

I got pulled into the office this morning, and after two minutes of listening to her I was red in the face and clenching my fists, because I wanted to tell her to get hosed. I've been hosed the last two years because I stood up to her, and gotten poo poo on as far as promotions, or even transferring to another store go. She hasn't jumped my rear end since, but at the same time she's held me back on my raises, and the extent of our conversations since has always been hi and hello. I really want to tell this company to go gently caress itself, but six years and lower level management experience doesn't seem to matter much everywhere I've applied. I used to really enjoy working for this company, and even stick up for this company, but I'm sick of busting my rear end and going no where when I work harder and know more than half the people above me.

When I stepped down to go work on the front end at night I was told I was taking a pay raise and stood to gain 90 cents counting the overnight pay, and the manager talked to me like I was loving stupid when I tried to explain to him the pay difference of the job codes. He owes me 80 cents a hour for the last two years or an apology, but I'm not gonna tell him he's loving stupid, because he'll fire my rear end!

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax
Quit.


Iakona posted:

Even working terrible fast food jobs I have never worked for such a piece of poo poo manager in my life.

its a loving mess at 10pm, and we don't even have enough people to stock the load let alone zone the store.

after two minutes of listening to her I was red in the face and clenching my fists, because I wanted to tell her to get hosed. I've been hosed the last two years because I stood up to her, and gotten poo poo on as far as promotions, or even transferring to another store go.

the extent of our conversations since has always been hi and hello.

I really want to tell this company to go gently caress itself,

I'm sick of busting my rear end and going no where when I work harder and know more than half the people above me.

the manager talked to me like I was loving stupid

I'm not gonna tell him he's loving stupid, because he'll fire my rear end!


See all this? This is the hole you've dug yourself. There is no way out of this hole. You will never be promoted. You will never be treated with respect. Get out now and find work you can appreciate, even if it means taking a pay cut.

Iakona
Jan 24, 2006

I can't afford to just up and quit, but I've decided to at least spend all of my two days off applying for what I can. I really hate to just up and walk away from 6 and a half years at job. I'm considering calling HR or her boss, but I'm not sure if it would do me any good. I can say without a doubt though that I wouldn't be the first person who's called because of the way she's treated somebody. She once called a meeting in the backroom and told one of our overnight supports to grow up and stop being such a little girl. At least two of the employees who were part of that meeting called HR about it, but HR claimed the manager would have to file a complaint himself. He let it slide, but if she had talked to me like that in front of everyone I'm not sure what I would have done.

litany of gulps
Jun 11, 2001

Fun Shoe

Iakona posted:

I can't afford to just up and quit, but I've decided to at least spend all of my two days off applying for what I can. I really hate to just up and walk away from 6 and a half years at job. I'm considering calling HR or her boss, but I'm not sure if it would do me any good. I can say without a doubt though that I wouldn't be the first person who's called because of the way she's treated somebody. She once called a meeting in the backroom and told one of our overnight supports to grow up and stop being such a little girl. At least two of the employees who were part of that meeting called HR about it, but HR claimed the manager would have to file a complaint himself. He let it slide, but if she had talked to me like that in front of everyone I'm not sure what I would have done.

Unless you have some kind of proof of wrongdoing, complaining that you got called a name is going to do exactly jack-poo poo for you or anyone else. The game at the salaried level is collection of evidence then release of that evidence to cover your rear end or bury your opponents. People at the low end of the totem pole always think that he-said she-said word of mouth drama has teeth, but it won't ever go anywhere.

MS Paint
Sep 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
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D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:
I'm sure I've mentioned before that our current enterprise management software is QuickBooks and we're supposed to be switching over to Microsoft NAVision before too long. Found out another hitch yesterday.

We got the master inventory list for the corporation at large, between all branches. I have to cross-reference that with our items list from QuickBooks, figure out what's what and what we need to add to that list for our branch. Between customers, the phones, entering estimates for our service department, and checking stock daily, that's going to take the rest of the week. :doh:

Oh, and instead of entering part numbers into the computer by keyboard, word is we're going to be scanning barcodes from a book. It's already slow and a pain in the rear end when QuickBooks takes a poo poo and I have to look at the hard copy of the items list, so I can't wait to see how the gently caress this works out if it comes to pass.

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:
Our corporate office is pushing us to use a new kind of indoor-outdoor caulking around windows and doors. We're owned by [color] Aluminum, the caulking is produced by [same color] Distribution. What's that? Why, indeed, it IS company-proprietary poo poo! We currently use Vulkem for aluminum-to-concrete and a couple others for aluminum-to-aluminum and aluminum-to-other-surfaces. But this lovely [same color] Seal caulking doesn't do the trick.

Our GC rigged up a little jig with some pieces of aluminum, concrete, and wood to see how the company caulk stands up to the products we currently use. It peeled off with very little effort after its precribed setting time. None of our current sealants did. :what:

Oh, and the CEO visited us last week. My boss ordered 2 cases of white company caulk and 1 case of bronze company caulk. What did that old fucker bring us? 6 and 3. Don't loving ask what you want us to order if you're not going to listen. Christ.


Also, we had a little forklift accident yesterday. Offloading windows from our supplier's truck and checking that everything's there when all of us notice a nice little green puddle under the forklift at the same time. Excellent, it's got a hydraulic leak! Our shop guy, who's driving the forklift, figures he'll just be extra-careful. Soon as he starts to pick up the load, the piston starts PISSING hydraulic fluid. Had to move fast, but...no dice. Just as we were getting the load where it needed to be, I started hearing this knocking-creaking noise and before I knew it, the hydraulics gave out and the mast came crashing down.

No, nothing was tied down, why would you think that? Oddly enough, out of the two dozen windows on that forklift, only four got broken when everything fell over, and a piece of glass went through one window screen. Five casualties out of two dozen windows could have been a lot worse. And no one was hurt.

But for gently caress's sake, maybe we'll start tying down the loads now?

copy of a
Mar 13, 2010

by zen death robot
My store manager just left because she is moving back in with her parents in Atlanta, so we're getting a new store manager. Well, I found out that when one of my ASMs discovered who was going to be the new store manager, she broke down into hysterics. Apparently this woman is the reason she quit her last job, and is now following her to this one to ruin her life some more.
We're also getting a new DM and RM. Policies are changing and it's going to be a terrible place to work for now, and scheduling will be even more of a hell (myself and a bunch of other people are getting only 3 hours a week). I need a new job. :(

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Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


copy of a posted:

Policies are changing and it's going to be a terrible place to work for now, and scheduling will be even more of a hell (myself and a bunch of other people are getting only 3 hours a week). I need a new job. :(

haha that's not a job, that's a "please quit so we don't have to pay you unemployment"

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