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Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

From what I've seen most of Russia's diplomatic staff are rather unhappy with the war, given they're not being blasted with Kremlin propaganda and mostly see this as making their job in the west harder.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 16:26

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# ? Jun 3, 2024 07:59

Nothingtoseehere: Nov 11, 2010

Jel Shaker posted:

can�t find the study right now but it suggested that the specific location of europe means we�re actually going to experience double the climate change and twice the pace to the rest of the world

That's mostly the Med - They get both extreme warming and extreme drying, so Mediterranean states - both European (Italy, Space, Greece) and non-European (Morocco, Algeria, Libya) are going from "arid but farmable" to "basically a desert" over the future in large areas. Northwest Europe (us) is experiencing "below-average" levels of climate change - lots of ocean temperature control helps for that. Still means we're getting devastatingly hot summers like last year more regularly, but compared to the rest of the globe we get off lightly.

This dry February is probably not linked to climate change - it's just lots of high pressure blocking, it happens sometimes. However, the already-depleted state of our groundwater due to last summers climate-change caused drought means that we're more reliant on winter rainfall to restore balance and prevent more severe multi-year droughts. So random events like a dry February can have more impact (assuming we don't suddenly have a wet Spring or damp Summer, which can always happen).

# ? Feb 23, 2023 16:50

The Question IRL: Jun 8, 2013; Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Jedit posted:

You might argue that it's a performative gesture, but the thought of Ambassador Isukputinov seething every time he looks out a window or steps out the door is worth the cash.

I'd say the Ambassador won't look out his window to see this any time soon.

Largelybecause all Russians know to stay well clear of windows, as you have a very high chance of just falling out of them.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 16:52

Cookie Cutter: Nov 29, 2020; Is there something else that's bothering you Mr. President?

drat, you mean to say Russia is a corrupt gangster state where the rules don't apply and murder is just an extension of business by other means? I wonder how it got like that. Never mind, probably not relevant to the discussion.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 16:55

Dabir: Nov 10, 2012

Cookie Cutter posted:

drat, you mean to say Russia is a corrupt gangster state where the rules don't apply and murder is just an extension of business by other means? I wonder how it got like that. Never mind, probably not relevant to the discussion.

No no, it might be. What's your hypothesis?

# ? Feb 23, 2023 17:01

Only Kindness: Oct 12, 2016

Historical Factors, probably. It's always them Historical Factors. Factors of History. Bank on it.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 17:04

Dabir: Nov 10, 2012

Only Kindness posted:

Historical Factors, probably. It's always them Historical Factors. Factors of History. Bank on it.

Do you have any particular ones in mind?

# ? Feb 23, 2023 17:09

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Dabir posted:

Do you have any particular ones in mind?

Shock Doctrine's a helluva drug

# ? Feb 23, 2023 17:11

Mebh: May 10, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

Behind the Bastards is often fun, because the best gateway away from RWM is observing what giant pissbabs they all are.

Tyranny is when sign on hand roll now

Can also recommend 'Swindled' for showing up capitalism and corporations for being utter, utter poo poo. Goddamn Johnson & Johnson. Goddamn.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 17:13

Dabir: Nov 10, 2012

Barry Foster posted:

Shock Doctrine's a helluva drug

Sure, yeah, that sucked. How should knowing about that affect our decision making today?

# ? Feb 23, 2023 17:18

Cookie Cutter: Nov 29, 2020; Is there something else that's bothering you Mr. President?

Things that happened historically: famously not important or relevant to understanding anything happening in the modern day. The West cracked the USSR open like a duck egg, ruined its economy and consigned an entire generation of Russians to poverty and alcoholism in one of the biggest humanitarian tragedies ever to take place, they shock doctrine'd it to hell and created a playground for warlord-capitalists to backstab each other. The kind of person who manages to consolidate power in this environment is not going to be a nice person.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 17:18

Dabir: Nov 10, 2012

Cookie Cutter posted:

Things that happened historically: famously not important or relevant to understanding anything happening in the modern day. The West cracked the USSR open like a duck egg, ruined its economy and consigned an entire generation of Russians to poverty and alcoholism in one of the biggest humanitarian tragedies ever to take place, they shock doctrine'd it to hell and created a playground for warlord-capitalists to backstab each other. The kind of person who manages to consolidate power in this environment is not going to be a nice person.

Is the person who thinks history isn't relevant to understanding the present day in the room with you right now?

# ? Feb 23, 2023 17:19

Cookie Cutter: Nov 29, 2020; Is there something else that's bothering you Mr. President?

Dabir posted:

Is the person who thinks history isn't relevant to understanding the present day in the room with you right now?

Yeah, they are right here actually.

Only Kindness posted:

Historical Factors, probably. It's always them Historical Factors. Factors of History. Bank on it.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 17:20

Dabir: Nov 10, 2012

Cookie Cutter posted:

Yeah, they are right here actually.

I took that as them having the opinion that shock doctrine was responsible but being too cowardly to express it for some reason.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 17:21

Cookie Cutter: Nov 29, 2020; Is there something else that's bothering you Mr. President?

Dabir posted:

I took that as them having the opinion that shock doctrine was responsible but being too cowardly to express it for some reason.

It's the same kind of talk I've heard to dismiss those things in favour of a more simplistic narrative, if I'm mistaken in that then it's my bad, either way it is not a very good post.

Cookie Cutter fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Feb 23, 2023

# ? Feb 23, 2023 17:23

Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

My local MP's response to a question regarding the new 5 missions:
Q: Genuine question, why is it "Britain" and not "the UK" ? Is NI being excluded?
A: We are a unionist party and believe in protecting the union.

Lungboy fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Feb 23, 2023

# ? Feb 23, 2023 17:29

Dabir: Nov 10, 2012

Cookie Cutter posted:

It's the same kind of talk I've heard to dismiss those things in favour of a more simplistic narrative, if I'm mistaken in that then it's my bad, either way it is not a very good post.

That's fair. But either way, my question stands: Knowing and understanding the history that led Russia to be what it is, how should that affect our decision making today?

# ? Feb 23, 2023 17:53

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

This seems a bit like damning with faint praise:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2023/feb/23/labour-keir-starmer-conservatives-rishi-sunak-uk-politics-latest-news

My underlining.

quote:

4h ago
12.46 GMT
Starmer's speech and Q&A - snap verdict
That was one of Keir Starmer�s most impressive speeches as Labour leader � not so much because of the content, but because of the confidence with which he delivered it. Starmer has often been dismissed as boring but, despite delivering a speech on �mission-driven government�, he wasn�t boring today. He looked and sounded inspiring, and prime ministerial. It is remarkable what a 20-plus point lead in the polls can do for a leader.

Starmer announced five missions for a Labour government (see 10.35am) and what he claimed was a new approach to delivering them (see 8.55am). The missions are sensible and, where they do come with dates that turn them into targets (on growth and clean energy) genuinely ambitious. But they are less specific and memorable than the Labour promises from 1997 (probably the most successful example of an election pledge card in recent British politics). With the exception of the zero-carbon electricity one, they are all things that can or will be promised by the Conservatives too. They are certainly not socialist, and there is nothing even leftwing about them. Starmer did not mention redistribution, and what he did say about making Britain fairer � breaking down barriers to opportunity, boosting jobs in every region � sounded like a watered down version of Tory levelling up.

Starmer set out in detail why he believed in a new, �mission-driven� approach to government, but it all sounded very familiar. Most prime ministers in recent times have been in favour of focusing on the long term, not the short term, tackling social problems at their root, getting government departments to work together, and partnership with the private sector. All of this was sound, and none of it was obviously wrong. But Rishi Sunak would have agreed with almost every word.

But what made Starmer�s performance so strong was what he was able to say about Sunak, and the Tories. Starmer was right to say Sunak�s pledges are short-term fixes, because they were announced as a measure to rescue a government whose reputation was completely trashed by Liz Truss. And Sunak can�t make promises without people remembering his party�s fairly dismal 13-year record in power. Starmer is free of all that.

The real measure of Starmer�s strength is how difficult the Tories are finding it to attack him. Today, rather than criticise anything Starmer actually said or promised, they resorted to attacking a completely different Labour leader � what they want him to be, rather than what he actually is. (See 11.59am.)

All they�ve really got on him is inconsistency, and flip-flopping. This works up to a point, and if politicians U-turn too often, they forfeit trust. But voters accepts that politicians can change their minds (all of us do), and U-turning to a position where you are aligned with the public is always more acceptable than going the other way. Starmer was asked repeatedly today about breaking some of the promises he made during the Labour leadership contest (see 10.24am and 11.12am) but he coasted through these questions quite comfortably.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 18:02

The Perfect Element: Dec 5, 2005; "This is a bit of a... a poof song"

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/23/crypto-firm-with-links-to-parliamentary-groups-appears-to-have-vanished

The crypto revolution continues to deliver...

The Guardian posted:

A crypto investment firm with links to two all-party parliamentary groups (APPGs) appears to have disappeared, leaving some investors fearing they have lost tens of thousands of pounds.

The episode is likely to raise further questions about the role of APPGs in parliament. Phoenix Community Capital established itself last year as a cryptocurrency project and investment scheme, which it said at one point was valued at $800m (�665m).

It was a sponsor of one APPG and its co-founder, Luke Sullivan, spoke at an event for a second APPG , as well as appearing as a panellist for events hosted by peers in parliament.

However, the company appears to have vanished in September last year, with its website going offline and the investment portfolios, known as �nests�, inaccessible to an estimated 8,000 investors after that date.

Some investors, including a former Premier League footballer, claim to have lost tens of thousands of pounds each.

Some of the firm�s assets and its name appear to have been sold to a new company run by an individual called �Dan�, who has told investors it has no obligation towards them, but that it would still try to make them some returns.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 18:08

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

1) give money to a website promising to double it through arcane means
2) ?????
3) ~~profit~~ "Dan"

# ? Feb 23, 2023 18:11

frytechnician: Jan 8, 2004; Happy to see me?

Dabir posted:

Maybe try them on Beau of the Fifth Column for more bite-size supplements to whichever podcast they go with, too. He's a very calm guy, so not much like Rogan, but he does have the advantage of looking and sounding like a redneck, cause he is one.
E: Cat tax

Didn't Beau get torn a new one recently for being a literal human trafficker?

# ? Feb 23, 2023 18:15

DesperateDan: Dec 10, 2005; Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

lol

# ? Feb 23, 2023 18:16

Dabir: Nov 10, 2012

frytechnician posted:

Didn't Beau get torn a new one recently for being a literal human trafficker?

He helped undocumented immigrants get into the US, which falls under the legal heading of human trafficking. This was several years ago.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 18:18

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

re: podcasts I have been enjoying knowledge fight a lot which is about alex jones being an idiot.

I haven't listened to an extensive catalogue of their earlier episodes but they both appear to have become increasingly left wing, especially jordan who I get the feeling would very much be liking to set most of their subject matter on fire if given half a chance.

Also re: walks, I strongly recommend using a stick to walk, I find it helps, and also finding an appropriate stick is a good reason to go walking. I made my own seven feet long out of a branch, which is also a fun way to spend an afternoon with a chisel.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Feb 23, 2023

# ? Feb 23, 2023 18:31

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

https://twitter.com/jasongroves1/status/1628731927732580353?s=46&t=ARI_L-v32Oind1-d9B3a3Q

Let Them Eat Turnips

# ? Feb 23, 2023 18:56

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

You can't get turnip hardly any more, only foreign devilry that is the swede.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 18:57

Tomberforce: May 30, 2006

Italian tourists everywhere recoiling in horror as their turnip bruschetta arrives.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 18:59

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Darth Walrus posted:

https://twitter.com/jasongroves1/status/1628731927732580353?s=46&t=ARI_L-v32Oind1-d9B3a3Q

Let Them Eat Turnips

Just saw this comment elsewhere:

quote:

We've reached the stage where eating tomatoes is some kind of dirty foreign habit and we should be feasting on God's own turnip. It's incredible how far we've fallen from normal in such a short period of time and all the twats who shouted "project fear" should be eating their words along with their turnip surprise.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 19:01

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

Psst, got some lovely tomato ketchup sachets coming in on Tuesday.
Real thing, want in?

- London 2025

# ? Feb 23, 2023 19:03

Nenonen: Oct 22, 2009; Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Darth Walrus posted:

https://twitter.com/jasongroves1/status/1628731927732580353?s=46&t=ARI_L-v32Oind1-d9B3a3Q

Let Them Eat Turnips

Turnip Point UK

e: if you scoffed at poop tomatoes you have no right to reject turnichup

https://twitter.com/twmtrefan/status/1458766559988621319

Nenonen fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Feb 23, 2023

# ? Feb 23, 2023 19:04

Sir Sidney Poitier: Aug 14, 2006; My favourite actor

Tomberforce posted:

Italian tourists everywhere recoiling in horror as their turnip bruschetta arrives.

As the server says "ere's yer brushetta".

I once went to Frankie & Benny's (mistake) with an Italian friend. When he asked for the bruschetta the server 'corrected' his pronunciation to "brushetta".

# ? Feb 23, 2023 19:07

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Sir Sidney Poitier posted:

As the server says "ere's yer brushetta".

I once went to Frankie & Benny's (mistake) with an Italian friend. When he asked for the bruschetta the server 'corrected' his pronunciation to "brushetta".

# ? Feb 23, 2023 19:13

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

There Will Be ~~Adequate~~ Specialist Turnips

# ? Feb 23, 2023 19:15

Mr Phillby: Apr 8, 2009; ~TRAVIS~

OwlFancier posted:

re: podcasts I have been enjoying knowledge fight a lot which is about alex jones being an idiot.

I haven't listened to an extensive catalogue of their earlier episodes but they both appear to have become increasingly left wing, especially jordan who I get the feeling would very much be liking to set most of their subject matter on fire if given half a chance.

Also re: walks, I strongly recommend using a stick to walk, I find it helps, and also finding an appropriate stick is a good reason to go walking. I made my own seven feet long out of a branch, which is also a fun way to spend an afternoon with a chisel.

I've been listening to their episodes on alex jone's various trials and depositions which are really in depth and interesting. Its very funny getting a window into just how incompetent an operation infowars is. The episode about alex's dad's deposition was very interesting, he's a slightly more slippery kind of bullshit artist than alex it turns out.

Theres like 700 epsisodes covering individual infowars episodes and i do not have the stomach for that but they do good work i think.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 19:22

Z the IVth: Jan 28, 2009; The trouble with your "expendable machines"; Fun Shoe

Failed Imagineer posted:

There Will Be ~~Adequate~~ Specialist Turnips

Warhammer to be replaced by Turnip 28

quote:

Turnip28 is a tabletop miniatures game and setting developed by British artist Max FitzGerald. The world of Turnip28 is a combination of postapocalyptic with napoleonics and root vegetables, and it's "about turnips". You can learn more about it here: TURNIP28.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 19:24

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Mr Phillby posted:

I've been listening to their episodes on alex jone's various trials and depositions which are really in depth and interesting. Its very funny getting a window into just how incompetent an operation infowars is. The episode about alex's dad's deposition was very interesting, he's a slightly more slippery kind of bullshit artist than alex it turns out.

Theres like 700 epsisodes covering individual infowars episodes and i do not have the stomach for that but they do good work i think.

Oh yeah the depos are wild, and interesting in that alex is very clearly uncomfortable when presented with the consequences of his actions, he immediately goes into deflection and "woe is me" self victimization.

Really worth a watch I think to see a huge piece of poo poo squirm.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 19:27

kingturnip: Apr 18, 2008

I've had my phone on all day, but no call yet from Therese Coffey. weird.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 19:54

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

OwlFancier posted:

Oh yeah the depos are wild, and interesting in that alex is very clearly uncomfortable when presented with the consequences of his actions, he immediately goes into deflection and "woe is me" self victimization.

Really worth a watch I think to see a huge piece of poo poo squirm.

And then instantly when he was out of court he was back to his fake macho 'those are satanists! globalists trying to take me down well I will never falter!' bravado on his show.
Absolute scumbag.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 20:02

Just Another Lurker: May 1, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

You can't get turnip hardly any more, only foreign devilry that is the swede.

Over here we call a swede a turnip and your turnip an english turnip. :shrug:

I dice them with carrots & potatoes into 1 inch cubes, season with black pepper and mixed herbs air fry the lot, very tasty.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 20:15

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OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

happyhippy posted:

And then instantly when he was out of court he was back to his fake macho 'those are satanists! globalists trying to take me down well I will never falter!' bravado on his show.
Absolute scumbag.

But that in itself is still an obsession with pretending like he's the victim. Genuinely incapable of properly experiencing the level of contempt I have for these people.

# ? Feb 23, 2023 20:18

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