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quote:legit availability is waaaaaay better and still kind of trending that way, at least for new cards. get on a stock discord and play the lovely waiting game, sec i can dig up some advice from back when i was hunting... I'm in Canada and already tried the Discords and other stuff. Zero luck, we get little supply and it's hoovered up by scalpers using bots. I can't take off work to camp out at Bestbuy for the possibility of getting a single card out of the 20 one store might get, once a month. I've heard it's better in Europe and the US now which is awesome but up here it's still terrible. I've queued with eVGA, got an order in with a Canadian retailer that has gone nowhere and I have no idea what to do anymore. It's beyond frustrating. I keep trying to force myself to love playing games on a console but I grew up a PC gamer and that's what I prefer primarily.
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The Gunslinger posted:I'm in Canada and already tried the Discords and other stuff. Zero luck, we get little supply and it's hoovered up by scalpers using bots. I can't take off work to camp out at Bestbuy for the possibility of getting a single card out of the 20 one store might get, once a month. I've heard it's better in Europe and the US now which is awesome but up here it's still terrible. I've queued with eVGA, got an order in with a Canadian retailer that has gone nowhere and I have no idea what to do anymore. It's beyond frustrating. Memory Express in-store waitlist got me a 3070 albeit after 8 months of wait. No money down but you have to go to the store physically to get on the waitlist. Discords were the way to go back in November but they're worse than useless now. Could try importing if you're willing to pay the extra.
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Aug 11, 2021 20:15
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too bad we banned that scalper who was getting several cards a week to goons at 150 over MSRP huh lol
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Aug 11, 2021 20:18
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Sagebrush posted:too bad we banned that scalper who was getting several cards a week to goons at 150 over MSRP huh lol Nah, he was a huge dick.
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Aug 11, 2021 20:22
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TheDemon posted:Memory Express in-store waitlist got me a 3070 albeit after 8 months of wait. No money down but you have to go to the store physically to get on the waitlist. They aren't waitlisting anymore or at least the locations near me aren't, I tried. I guess I will try importing from Europe or something and take the hit on exchange, I just need to find a vendor there who will ship to Canada.
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Aug 11, 2021 20:31
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I have a couple of 1080tis that have been great and still work for games. I play at 1080p so no big deal, it would be nice to see the raytracing games. And I could really use a new graphics card for rendering 3d models, but I just feel it's wrong to pay so much above msrp. So uhhh any idea when the 4000 series would drop? I've practically given up on the 3000 generation, and besides it's probably better to keep the money on hand for any medical emergencies... Hell I think I can stretch these cards for another year
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Aug 11, 2021 20:45
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:any idea when the 4000 series would drop? Late 2022 is the current best estimate; I wouldn't be surprised to see it slip to 2023 before anything is actually available in quantity. (for relative definitions of "quantity" given what we've seen with this generation, lol). NVidia has something else in the pipe for this fall but it's expected to be only workstation cards.
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Aug 11, 2021 20:53
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Can someone give me an explanation for why graphic cards are still so loving expensive despite there being increasing supply?
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Aug 11, 2021 22:04
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Because the supply still isn't enough to meet demand, so lowering the prices would just be leaving money on the table.
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Aug 11, 2021 22:07
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Otakufag posted:Can someone give me an explanation for why graphic cards are still so loving expensive despite there being increasing supply? increased cost of materials/shipping/chip shortage would be the normal answer. its cause companies are greedy and don't care about consumers is the real answer. they know people will buy cards no matter what the price.
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Aug 11, 2021 22:12
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But here in my country I've seen most cards sitting in stock for months and the only cards sold are the ones that appear on lightning sale and stuff. Wouldn't it be wiser to sell them at a more reasonable price but move inventory stock faster?
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Aug 11, 2021 22:27
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The store might have bought the cards from their resellers at an inflated price some time ago, and they might be losing money if they sell them now at the lower price. They might be hanging on hoping for some suckers.
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Aug 11, 2021 22:34
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But wouldn't it be better for the store to move supply at a slight apparent loss instead of sitting until heat death?
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Aug 11, 2021 22:39
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only if they need that shelf space for something else also, what country
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Aug 11, 2021 22:40
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Sagebrush posted:too bad we banned that scalper who was getting several cards a week to goons at 150 over MSRP huh lol Nah.
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Aug 11, 2021 22:49
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wyoak posted:only if they need that shelf space for something else Or if they need that inventory money back to buy something that will sell faster, possibly.
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Aug 11, 2021 22:52
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Maybe if poo poo was vegetable or something, the rare thousand dollar electronic that millions of people want is gonna stay the price that brings a tidy profit. You might might MIGHT see a discount at the end of the year IF demand is zero and IF there are enough unsold units to represent a potential tax burden for a retailer.
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Aug 11, 2021 22:56
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mutata posted:Nah, he was a huge dick. And he wasn't selling them for MSRP, it was whatever they listed for on Amazon. When I asked what the prices were looking like he could manage a 3070 for $750-850 and 3080 for $1150-1300... before his $150 "fee".
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Aug 11, 2021 23:03
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Romes128 posted:increased cost of materials/shipping/chip shortage would be the normal answer. Don't forget the tariffs that Trump introduced and Biden has kept.
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Aug 11, 2021 23:07
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wyoak posted:only if they need that shelf space for something else I'd like to know too. But from what I can tell, it is mainly the mid range and high end stuff that is moving. Low end stuff can be had fairly easily at inflated retail.
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Aug 11, 2021 23:17
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Shifty Pony posted:And he wasn't selling them for MSRP, it was whatever they listed for on Amazon. When I asked what the prices were looking like he could manage a 3070 for $750-850 and 3080 for $1150-1300... before his $150 "fee". It was $100 and he was selling them for the price he bought them at. If it was MSRP then that would be what the price was. It also wasn’t scalping it was a finders fee which is different.
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Aug 11, 2021 23:18
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Sagebrush posted:too bad we banned that scalper who was getting several cards a week to goons at 150 over MSRP huh lol He sold maybe two 3080s total, one of which was his used card for inflated prices after he bought a 3090 from the LTT store thing. $1150 for a used 3070 is hardly a good deal. $1,000 for a 6700 XT? I get that he hooked you up with a 3070 at an inflated price, but he was a total jerkoff who filed a chargeback with his bank over a forums purchase after bilking goons for PS5s and AMD cards. That thread was for flipping AMD GPUs for $1,000+, not hooking up goons with MSRP + $150 deals. Maybe people that feed into high-demand product scalping (as in the people buying into bot pools, not necessarily the people that gave up and bought scalped cards), botting/selling game accounts, and brag about how they're not paying taxes on any of their garbage income methods aren't actually good people?
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Aug 11, 2021 23:28
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Also he advised it on every loving page of the thread while openly mocking anyone looking for a card. Very ok with that not happening anymore. Very ok.
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Aug 11, 2021 23:34
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I think its very understandable that there are different parties that feel differently about this based on their experiences and perspectives. It seems unlikely we're ever going to have a similar thing happen i shan't let that goons ghost haunt me, personally
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Aug 11, 2021 23:57
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AMD RX 6600XT review: A sad trombone noise of a “$379” 2021 GPU Too weak, too pricey, and likely understocked. In other words, another 2021 GPU tragedy. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/amd-rx-6600xt-review-a-sad-trombone-noise-of-a-379-2021-gpu/ Haha nice title
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On a related note, I'll probably be seeing my notify for a 3080 Ti come up with EVGA in another few days based on current queue progress. Could obviously be next week still, but I'm about 30 seconds away now. Originally I was going to use my 40% discount code on it... but that expired, so now it'd be for full MSRP minus the associate's code. I had gotten 3090 FTW3 via step-up, but it's still new in the box because I've been busy with life stuff and haven't even played games recently and thus haven't wanted to swap it in. So I've been tempted to either use the notify for a 3080 Ti and sell the 3090, or keep the 3090 and offer someone the 3080 Ti. Unlike He Who Does Not Remain, either card would be for cost + shipping if anyone is interested, because I'm a dirty leftist who doesn't care about adding a
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Sagebrush posted:too bad we banned that scalper who was getting several cards a week to goons at 150 over MSRP huh lol I mean, he got me a $700 3080 FE for $800 at the most impossible time to get them. Easily the biggest favor a goon has done me and nice to deal with, so it was sad seeing him go into an inexplicable self-destructive butt spiral instead of chilling out a bit and keeping his side-hustle in SA-Mart. I think he was a good person but the F5'ing tragically drove him insane.
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MikeC posted:I'd like to know too. But from what I can tell, it is mainly the mid range and high end stuff that is moving. Low end stuff can be had fairly easily at inflated retail. The country is Chile, and here is the website we use that compares prices of all our retailers: https://www.solotodo.cl/video_cards?gpu_lines=1240913&ordering=offer_price_usd& As you can see if you convert our currency to gringo dollar, the cheapest 3060 starts at 907usd, cheapest 3060ti at 1,081usd, 3070 at 1,160usd, 3070ti at 1320 and 3080 at 1,880 usd. As a side note, I managed to sell my used 1070 for 550usd to some desperate kid who needed it to render stuff for his major in computer science. Which one would you get if you were me?
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SourKraut posted:On a related note, I'll probably be seeing my notify for a 3080 Ti come up with EVGA in another few days based on current queue progress. Could obviously be next week still, but I'm about 30 seconds away now. Originally I was going to use my 40% discount code on it... but that expired, so now it'd be for full MSRP minus the associate's code. What type of 3080 Ti?
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Aug 12, 2021 01:28
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Is there anyway on NVidia cards to check what transmission rate the HDMI 2.1 port is running at? For DisplayPort, GPU-Z tells you the amount of lanes and their bandwidth, but no details for HDMI. Are there any other tools or some secret NVidia stuff to do that?
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Aug 12, 2021 01:36
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Otakufag posted:The country is Chile, and here is the website we use that compares prices of all our retailers: https://www.solotodo.cl/video_cards?gpu_lines=1240913&ordering=offer_price_usd& Oh my god. That is some hosed up prices. I got my 3080 at around 1040 USD after conversion from canuckbucks. I would buy an Xbox or PS5. Goondolences.
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Aug 12, 2021 01:42
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Sagebrush posted:too bad we banned that scalper who was getting several cards a week to goons at 150 over MSRP huh lol didn't he scam someone though, and that's why he got banned?
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Aug 12, 2021 01:58
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He did a chargeback against the forums, lol. His rap sheet had plenty of banworthy things on it though.
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To Canadian Goons: Bestbuy has drops coming tomorrow https://blog.bestbuy.ca/best-buy/nvidia locations on the page. Good luck
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Aug 12, 2021 02:24
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I ended up selling my used 3080 EVGA XC3 to a tech bro in the Bay Area for 2x MSRP at the height of the GPU bubble. Does that make me a fake socialist?
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Aug 12, 2021 02:32
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mA posted:I ended up selling my used 3080 EVGA XC3 to a tech bro in the Bay Area for 2x MSRP at the height of the GPU bubble. Does that make me a fake socialist? Well not the first against the wall, but outlook not so good.
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Aug 12, 2021 02:34
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MikeC posted:To Canadian Goons: Bestbuy has drops coming tomorrow Dang, local one has a drop. The question is do I really want to take the morning off work, which I can’t really afford to, to maybe buy a video card that I also can’t really afford
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Aug 12, 2021 02:38
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MH Knights posted:What type of 3080 Ti? The 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra, 3967 sku: https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=12G-P5-3967-KR√
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SourKraut posted:The 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra, 3967 sku: https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=12G-P5-3967-KR√ Is $1400 MSRP? Thats...a little out of my price range.
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