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For fun, I recreated the chart and discovered that you have to go out of your way to make a second x-axis. It was done on purpose: Made a slightly less lovely version: Dr. Arbitrary has a new favorite as of 21:42 on May 14, 2020 |
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Platystemon posted:Now exclude New York and show the graph. Already done, by this guy: https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them quote:As a simple example of the USA trend, when you take out the data from New York and just look at the rest of the USA, daily case numbers are increasing.
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# ? May 14, 2020 21:44 |
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Hippie Hedgehog posted:
Only looking at deaths (since I had excel open and why not?)
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# ? May 14, 2020 21:55 |
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https://twitter.com/tarenceray/status/1261082214223286272
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# ? May 15, 2020 01:01 |
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You dense motherfuckers. The z shape is a physical impossibility. This is not a paper problem. Real human lives, and real economic value, are being destroyed by this disease.
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# ? May 15, 2020 01:11 |
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econony go swoosh
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# ? May 15, 2020 01:15 |
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These guys really just need to learn to take the L
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# ? May 15, 2020 01:43 |
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I shaped
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# ? May 15, 2020 01:50 |
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5 out of the 6 scenarios get back to the exact same trajectory economy which means (????????)
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# ? May 15, 2020 03:08 |
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Spoeank posted:5 out of the 6 scenarios get back to the exact same trajectory economy which means (????????) Economists generally seem to believe that "The Economy" is a wholly independent entity that is unaffected by human factors. Things like mass unemployment make the GDP go down because The Economy just doesn't like high unemployment, not because there are fewer people making stuff. So you know, a few hundred thousand hospitalizations/deaths from COVID shouldn't affect anything, after all when has The Economy ever cared about people getting sick before?
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# ? May 15, 2020 03:39 |
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Spoeank posted:5 out of the 6 scenarios get back to the exact same trajectory economy which means (????????) Number go up!
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# ? May 15, 2020 03:40 |
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You’ve got to love how in every scenario, the economy is imagined to return to the same unstoppable rate of growth, and in five of the six they intercept the slope as if nothing had ever happened. Ask Ireland how the recovery from the famine went.
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# ? May 15, 2020 03:45 |
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Economists could be all "Well, the economy is currently extremely pear-shaped, and will be for a while" and be 100% correct but they just have to keep larping as a real science.
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# ? May 15, 2020 03:52 |
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I'm inventing the V+ recovery where the post-recovery trend is better than pre-disaster patented pending, do not styeal
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# ? May 15, 2020 03:55 |
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Emphasis mine:twoday posted:a brief history lesson:
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# ? May 15, 2020 03:55 |
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So what you're saying is we're all be speaking Dutch soon?
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# ? May 15, 2020 04:03 |
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I think they are saying we should learn how to grow flowers.
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# ? May 15, 2020 04:03 |
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I’m saying the map will soon look like this:
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# ? May 15, 2020 04:06 |
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Many people are eating my liver and internal organs and ripping off my skin. Many such cases. It's the worst ever.
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# ? May 15, 2020 04:49 |
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iirc the Dutch also just killed the entire population of several Indonesian islands at one point, because it was easier to just replace the population of spice plantations with slaves than it was to try to negotiate with local residents. Thousands of people killed for the sake of nutmeg.
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# ? May 15, 2020 07:36 |
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They tried extirpating the plants, too. Every clove tree outside of V.O.C. plantations was put to the axe, save one. They missed a tree high in the clouds of Ternate, a specimen today known as “Afo”. Afo’s children broke the Dutch monopoly on the spice. Afo sprouted, near as anyone can tell, at the same time as the V.O.C.. She has now outlived them by two centuries. Platystemon has a new favorite as of 09:49 on May 15, 2020 |
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When everything is the Netherlands, nothing is really the nether lands.
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# ? May 15, 2020 09:45 |
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The Nether lands are getting an update in a month or so.
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# ? May 15, 2020 09:48 |
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https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1260991789206470658
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# ? May 15, 2020 10:10 |
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Platystemon posted:Now exclude New York and show the graph. https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1260979939005861888
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# ? May 15, 2020 12:57 |
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I wonder what's the reason for Russia's infection numbers. They've had constant ~10,000 new cases/day with very little variance for two weeks now. Their fatalities are very low and probably bullshit, but that's as expected. e. oh, this wasn't corona thread. Whatevs. Kennel has a new favorite as of 13:16 on May 15, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/badecontakes/status/1259712443720192000?s=21
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# ? May 15, 2020 13:34 |
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Platystemon posted:You dense motherfuckers. Spoeank posted:5 out of the 6 scenarios get back to the exact same trajectory economy which means (????????) taqueso posted:I'm inventing the V+ recovery where the post-recovery trend is better than pre-disaster
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# ? May 15, 2020 13:52 |
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Platystemon posted:They tried extirpating the plants, too. that's evil poo poo right there, i mean so is genociding island populations, though, so... I guess what I'm thinking here is that anyone can have their reputation rehabilitated
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That only works if you assume people were tested completely at random
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# ? May 15, 2020 18:59 |
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There's a lot going on here but after seeing it a few times my favorite point is that by their analysis, deaths continued to trend upward after the "peak".
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# ? May 15, 2020 22:15 |
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Zereth posted:That only works if you assume people were tested completely at random And if everyone is tested once only and not say a bunch of healthcare workers who have repeated virus contact!
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# ? May 15, 2020 23:19 |
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zedprime posted:This is conspicuously missing, the obnoxiously optimistic people who are like "the focus on medical research and hands off logistics mean we are going to be even more technologically advanced here when we return to normal this TO THE MOON." ah, well, nevertheless
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# ? May 15, 2020 23:44 |
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Zereth posted:That only works if you assume people were tested completely at random And the testing was all correct, and done in the same moment in time.
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# ? May 16, 2020 00:34 |
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why isnt there an "economic malpractice" concept? like if you say "go to work, its good for the economy" and then everyone dies, which turns out to be very bad for the economy. thats a direct cause->effect, clearly manslaughter
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# ? May 16, 2020 00:43 |
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Carthag Tuek posted:why isnt there an "economic malpractice" concept? like if you say "go to work, its good for the economy" and then everyone dies, which turns out to be very bad for the economy. thats a direct cause->effect, clearly manslaughter Killing people, in large numbers, is entirely acceptable in our society as long as it’s done stochastically. If I run a hydroelectric dam that fails and kills four hundred people, I may face consequences. If I run an empire of coal that will, in normal operation, will thousands of people this year, as it has for decades, that is cool and good. If the power lines running from my hydroelectric dam had been unmaintained for decades so I could pump stock and executive dicks, I’ll probably get away scot‐free when when three towns burn , even if shoddy maintenance on my gas distribution killed a bunch of people in another county a few years earlier. The trick is that my infrastructure is bad everywhere, so really, it’s the act‐of‐God straw that broke the camel’s back, not the literal tons I had already loaded the camel with. Platystemon has a new favorite as of 01:00 on May 16, 2020 |
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Also they don't care because corona is extremely unlikely to kill economically valuable people. I've already heard people say that the virus will end up saving millions in social security expenses, since it's mostly retired old people that are dying.
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# ? May 16, 2020 00:56 |
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Phlegmish posted:Also they don't care because corona is extremely unlikely to kill economically valuable people. I've already heard people say that the virus will end up saving millions in social security expenses, since it's mostly retired old people that are dying. The only reason a lot of public pension plans haven't completely collapsed is because a lot of the people who were going to be drawing from them died of opioids.
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# ? May 16, 2020 01:06 |
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zedprime posted:This is conspicuously missing, the obnoxiously optimistic people who are like "the focus on medical research and hands off logistics mean we are going to be even more technologically advanced here when we return to normal this TO THE MOON." A couple more pandemics and we may finally be able to fully recover from the finno-korean hyperwar
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zedprime posted:This is conspicuously missing, the obnoxiously optimistic people who are like "the focus on medical research and hands off logistics mean we are going to be even more technologically advanced here when we return to normal this TO THE MOON." The "This will be just like after WW2!" people. Conveniently forgetting that the only reason the US got such a big postwar boost is because none of the fighting happened on their home soil and the European recovery was very much not "V+ shaped".
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