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Casimir Radon posted:Or maybe you're an idiot. I got pulled over for speeding a month ago, but was polite and got off with a warning. -A White Guy
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CARL MARK FORCE IV posted:-A White Guy As a teen the other teenagers I knew who got hassled by cops were all white (because nearly everyone in town was white). They were just surly. You aren't legally required to be polite to cops, but being rude to them doesn't usually help anything. Even lily white middle class folks can have a bad experience if they try to act like a bad dude instead of pretending to be a good citizen when cops are around.
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Jul 1, 2016 00:29
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Look, this thread doesn't have a gold fringe so any discussion of the Maritime police really doesn't belong here.
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Jul 1, 2016 00:44
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Goddamnit, was just trying to edit.
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Jul 1, 2016 00:45
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Hermetic posted:Had a gun pulled on me by a cop at a routine traffic stop because he felt like being a big man. Twice. One of the reasons I dislike people being okay with excessive force when used on people they don't like. I had two officers (in the same car) nearly cause an accident by pulling out of a parking lot right in front of me pull a u-turn and pull me over. Despite politely handing them my license and registration they chewed me out for the better part of 20 minutes, and finished with "if I ever see you in this neighborhood again I won't hesitate to put a bullet in your loving head." They threatened to shoot me on sight for no reason other than I was at the wrong place at the wrong time and made them look bad. Complaint didn't go anywhere either - they sat on it for nearly 6 months (long enough for the dashcam footage to roll over itself) and closed the investigation due to lack of evidence, ruling in their officers' favor.
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Jul 1, 2016 00:59
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Casimir Radon posted:Or maybe you're an idiot. I got pulled over for speeding a month ago, but was polite and got off with a warning. Ignoring your sad insults, I too have been pulled over by friendly cops. But it only takes one who decides to be a big man with a gun to make all the others not really valid. Oh well, enjoy your probation, maybe it will give you a cooling off period and you can stop being a rage-addled moron afterwards.  Geoj posted:I had two officers (in the same car) nearly cause an accident by pulling out of a parking lot right in front of me pull a u-turn and pull me over. Despite politely handing them my license and registration they chewed me out for the better part of 20 minutes, and finished with "if I ever see you in this neighborhood again I won't hesitate to put a bullet in your loving head." They threatened to shoot me on sight for no reason other than I was at the wrong place at the wrong time and made them look bad. There's tons of videos made by people with hidden cameras trying to enforce complaints. The amount of threats, false arrests and stonewalling is terrifying. The problem isn't even entirely that Officer Fuckstick wants to take his divorce out on you during a traffic stop, it's that when you go to report it, Officer Shitbag is more interested in protecting Fuckstick than he is with making things right with you. So, yeah, still not in favor of police using excessive force on anyone, even if I disagree with them. Even on a miserable idiot like Casimir. I'd prefer to handle his beating and macing myself. 
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Jul 1, 2016 01:14
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Hermetic posted:Ignoring your sad insults, I too have been pulled over by friendly cops. But it only takes one who decides to be a big man with a gun to make all the others not really valid. No, it really doesn't. One bad cop is one bad cop. One good cop is one good cop. One bad cop doesn't ruin unrelated good cops, and one good cop doesn't redeem unrelated bad cops. I, too, long for the day when we can turn law enforcement over to perfect emotionless lawbots, but until that day comes we have to make do with individual humans. It would probably be good to focus on better training and skills development for our fallible human police officers to help them live up to the high standards we expect of them.
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Jul 1, 2016 01:55
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Facebook Aunt posted:No, it really doesn't. One bad cop is one bad cop. One good cop is one good cop. One bad cop doesn't ruin unrelated good cops, and one good cop doesn't redeem unrelated bad cops. I mean that it makes them invalid because you're dead on the ground. I'm not saying I mistrust all cops because some hick had to be a big man, put your wagging finger away.
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Jul 1, 2016 02:38
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^In your case, one bad cop pulled a gun, but didn't shoot, so the point still doesn't work.Hermetic posted:Ignoring your sad insults, I too have been pulled over by friendly cops. But it only takes one who decides to be a big man with a gun to make all the others not really valid. Sounds like the same thought process we mock freep for.
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Jul 1, 2016 02:49
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SocketWrench posted:^In your case, one bad cop pulled a gun, but didn't shoot, so the point still doesn't work. "Until the police literally kill you you can't complain about them." 
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Jul 1, 2016 02:54
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SocketWrench posted:^In your case, one bad cop pulled a gun, but didn't shoot, so the point still doesn't work. Citizen SocketWrench, your crime is willful denseness. The sentence is death.  Geoj posted:"Until the police literally kill you you can't complain about them." Or being brutally mocked by Geoj. Whatevs.
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Jul 1, 2016 03:02
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Hermetic posted:I mean that it makes them invalid because you're dead on the ground. I'm not saying I mistrust all cops because some hick had to be a big man, put your wagging finger away. Oh, sorry. I mistook you for a member of the ACAB brigade. 
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Jul 1, 2016 03:07
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Facebook Aunt posted:Oh, sorry. I mistook you for a member of the ACAB brigade. Nah. An unacceptable amount of cops are bastards, but #notallcops.
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Jul 1, 2016 03:44
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Hermetic posted:Nah. An unacceptable amount of cops are bastards, but #notallcops. #allcops choose to be cops and should be treated with heavy suspicion and executed for miscarriage of duty
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Jul 1, 2016 03:51
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I've always wondered why - if the number of dirty cops is so infinitesimally small - the supposed "good" ones don't clean house and either turn in or drive out the .00000000000000000000000001% that are giving them all a bad name.
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Jul 1, 2016 03:55
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I do not consent to this thread devolving into an argument about cops. I DO NOT CONSENT!
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Jul 1, 2016 03:56
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Geoj posted:I've always wondered why - if the number of dirty cops is so infinitesimally small - the supposed "good" ones don't clean house and either turn in or drive out the .00000000000000000000000001% that are giving them all a bad name. Extreme tribalism heightened by perceptions of physical danger. Gotta protect your angry abusive lovely coworker against all criticism because what if hes the only person available as back up when poo poo goes south? If he was mad at you, or on desk duty, or fired it might be just you vs the lunatic hyped up on PCP with an AK. Or a ten year old with a plastic gun, but whatever. Basically, tribalism leads to some hosed up decisions.
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Jul 1, 2016 04:08
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Geoj posted:I've always wondered why - if the number of dirty cops is so infinitesimally small - the supposed "good" ones don't clean house and either turn in or drive out the .00000000000000000000000001% that are giving them all a bad name. It's probably not all that small, and it isn't distributed evenly. So in a clean, competent, well-trained department, bastards have to be sneaky to do dirty poo poo, so everybody doesn't know they are bastards. In a poorly run department good guys will be corrupted or driven out, and the bad ones can be blatant as poo poo. And there's probably legacy issues too. Like in Life on Mars when the modern cop is amazed at the stuff the 70s cops could get away with, and it wasn't even considered abuse or corruption or anything. Some old guys are going to remember when standards were different, and not agree with some of the changes. If young cops are mostly trained on the job by older cops, they are going to pick up those bad habits. New cops ought to spend like 6 months at an accredited police academy before they get to work the streets. Modern policing is a complex, technical job.
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Jul 1, 2016 04:32
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Facebook Aunt posted:It's probably not all that small, and it isn't distributed evenly. Oh I know, the lots of zeros after the decimal point was intended to be extreme sarcasm. But to hear the police and their supporters talk its as if when a dirty cop is caught, tried and convicted we should all breathe a collective sigh of relief because the only bad cop in the entire country has been caught and brought to justice, and there couldn't ever be another.
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Jul 1, 2016 04:45
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Redlettermedias space cop also addressed the differences between police work I'm the past and today. And also the future.
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Jul 1, 2016 04:45
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What happened to you thread, you used to be readable.
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Jul 1, 2016 06:04
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gently caress it lets talk about tipping while we are still in Shitsville
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Jul 1, 2016 06:14
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StandardVC10 posted:What happened to you thread, you used to be readable. Someone created joinder with a coptalk thread or something. We need to talk to a Constitutional Sheriff to set things right.
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Jul 1, 2016 06:15
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Always tip your officers
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Jul 1, 2016 06:15
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I would be more sympathetic to the cop haters if it wasn't super obvious you were totally butt hurt about some bullshit that went down in your own life, which I'm guessing you were partially to blame for if you think the thread that has spent almost 300 pages cheering on law enforcement is the appropriate place to have this discussion. I say this as someone who has had bad experiences with the police. Either try to be funny about it or shut up.
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Jul 1, 2016 06:16
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But only if you stand up to wipe your uncircumcised penis after you pee sitting down then dont wash your hands
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 http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/06/post_12.html quote:Harney County Judge Steve Grasty on Tuesday beat a recall aimed at politically punishing him for standing up to occupation leader Ammon Bundy.
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Jul 1, 2016 06:38
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each morning i go to the police department and shake every cop's hand and also i clap when the plane lands
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What??? But the Bundy gang were so certain that the local people supported them. How could this have happened. Zionist reptilians again, I assume?
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Facebook Aunt posted:What??? But the Bundy gang were so certain that the local people supported them. How could this have happened. Zionist reptilians again, I assume? The Bundys would say that he is a Gadianton Robber.
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Judge Grasty is pretty cool. If you really want to get into the nitty gritty of this story then check out how he recorded a meeting with himself, the local sheriffs, the COWS (Coalition of Western States for the purpose of supporting the Bundys), and Michelle Fiore here. Basically, some rookie league state representatives from the flyover part of America think they have enough clout to push around some county level Oregon officials so that the Bundy clan can get their way and the response of the locals is: "gently caress you. We're going to offer Ammon Bundy and his posse the same deal we offered yesterday: a free ride to the state line." It's an hour long so if your time is worth a drat I did a half assed writeup here. The short of it is that Judge Grasty is a dude with a law background who apparently agrees with Bundy on the idea of giving land back to the states. But because he understands how the system works, he is extremely resentful of a bunch of dumbshit yahoos marching in to his backyard and thinking they'll accomplish anything by waving guns around while talking about how they're the victims.
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Geoj posted:when a dirty cop is caught, tried and convicted You're adorable
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I do not consent to this thread devolving into an argument about cops. *breaks the window, drags you out of the car, sits on you* The motto of the police is "To serve and protect", let me ask you, fellow goonsir, when was the last time you felt served or protected? You see, in other countries... Facebook Aunt posted:It's probably not all that small, and it isn't distributed evenly. So in a clean, competent, well-trained department, bastards have to be sneaky to do dirty poo poo, so everybody doesn't know they are bastards. In a poorly run department good guys will be corrupted or driven out, and the bad ones can be blatant as poo poo. Yeah, I know we should probably stop the coptalk, but, I just want to delve into this a little. I'm not really sure it's a change, honestly. Like, my dad was a cop during the 60s, and, yeah, he got away with beating the poo poo out of black dudes, "peter puffers" (his words, not mine), and hippies, and laughs as he talks about looting businesses that had been on fire, since the insurance was going to cover the lost goods anyway...But cops are still beating the poo poo out of blacks, trans people, gays, liberal protesters, etc, and how's filling the trunk with diamonds and guns from a burned-out pawn shop really any different than using Civil Forfeiture to rob people blind at traffic stops?
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Please stop the coptalk. I am not interested in the Hermetic Therapy Show.
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Discendo Vox posted:Please stop the coptalk. I am not interested in the Hermetic Therapy Show. Sorry, I'm really good at unintentionally starting derails 
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Discendo Vox posted:Please stop the coptalk. I am not interested in the Hermetic Therapy Show. Oh, hey, it's a troll I forgot to put on ignore! Thanks for the reminder, you useless dipshit!  Iron Crowned posted:Sorry, I'm really good at unintentionally starting derails Discussions of politics often lead to discussions of power, and those who wield it. No big deal, friend. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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cumshitter posted:Judge Grasty is pretty cool. If you really want to get into the nitty gritty of this story then check out how he recorded a meeting with himself, the local sheriffs, the COWS (Coalition of Western States for the purpose of supporting the Bundys), and Michelle Fiore here. This is good. I hadn't heard this yet.
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Facebook Aunt posted:What??? But the Bundy gang were so certain that the local people supported them. How could this have happened. Zionist reptilians again, I assume?
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God drat michele fiore is a loving moron holy poo poo listen to that soundcloud. https://soundcloud.com/opb/010916cowsmeeting
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Mr. Nice! posted:God drat michele fiore is a loving moron holy poo poo listen to that soundcloud. You can tell that Michelle Fiore got into office simply by being the person with an (R) next to her name willing to say the most extreme poo poo that election
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