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marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

There was a guy in my class at school who wanted to join the army at 16, but his mum refused to sign the papers. By the time he was 18 and able to sign himself he wasn’t interested any more. Think he’s a psychiatric nurse now.

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DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


marktheando posted:

There was a guy in my class at school who wanted to join the army at 16, but his mum refused to sign the papers. By the time he was 18 and able to sign himself he wasn’t interested any more. Think he’s a psychiatric nurse now.

the system works

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

nopantsjack posted:

I assume only kids join? I remember army fellows trying to draft us when we were little and there'd always be the stupid kids who liked the idea and the odd just too-patriotic kid whose grown up reading RAF magasines or whatever.
Afaik RAF kid works in sainsburys now, stupid kid 1 got kicked out for insubordination and stupid kid 2 may be dead in the desert for all I know.

Why would you join the British army lol, we have no natural enemies so it's just expeditionary wars to gently caress up places with less than we have
*sighing*

the concept of "natural enemies" is a fix perpetuated by the international arms producing bourgeoisie and braggarts who want power over people's lives.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


jBrereton posted:

*sighing*

the concept of "natural enemies" is a fix perpetuated by the international arms producing bourgeoisie and braggarts who want power over people's lives.

I actually still haven't forgiven the Danes

They know what they did.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

nopantsjack posted:

I actually still haven't forgiven the Danes

They know what they did.

Um I think you mean Belgians

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
the brexit negotiater has decided to threaten to quit if the deputy PM is forced out of office for looking at dodgy porn on the job lol

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

marktheando posted:

There was a guy in my class at school who wanted to join the army at 16, but his mum refused to sign the papers. By the time he was 18 and able to sign himself he wasn’t interested any more. Think he’s a psychiatric nurse now.

happy ending? sad ending? who knows

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKQlQlQ6_pk

Whorelord
May 1, 2013

Jump into the well...

marktheando posted:

There was a guy in my class at school who wanted to join the army at 16, but his mum refused to sign the papers. By the time he was 18 and able to sign himself he wasn’t interested any more. Think he’s a psychiatric nurse now.

the one guy i know who joined the army at 16 spent 4 years getting drunk around the world and now that he's left he does the exact same thing

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

nopantsjack posted:

I actually still haven't forgiven the Danes

They know what they did.
Our proudest moments.

Mycroft Holmes
Mar 26, 2010

by Azathoth
not forgiving the danes is similar to how i still haven't forgiven the uk for aiding the confederacy during the american civil war. "private individuals" my rear end. you built them loving ships.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Mycroft Holmes posted:

not forgiving the danes is similar to how i still haven't forgiven the uk for aiding the confederacy during the american civil war. "private individuals" my rear end. you built them loving ships.
one of the biggest god drat lies of fake history

the French helped the Confederacy so they could prop up their ~Mexican Empire~, but the British state was basically pro US and kept trading with em and refused to recognise the independence of the CSA with a treaty (partly for domestic politics partly for the sake of Canada not getting invaded).

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

jBrereton posted:

one of the biggest god drat lies of fake history

the French helped the Confederacy so they could prop up their ~Mexican Empire~, but the British state was basically pro US and kept trading with em and refused to recognise the independence of the CSA with a treaty (partly for domestic politics partly for the sake of Canada not getting invaded).

Yeah but British shipbuilders didn't see any reason not to get paid building blockade runners and commerce raiders for the traitor states, and even laid down a couple ironclads if memory serves (which I think later got sold to the Ottomans), all while the government bought the flimsiest goddamn excuses imaginable about what the ships were being built to do, and for whom.

Captain_Maclaine has issued a correction as of 19:17 on Dec 1, 2017

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Whorelord posted:

the one guy i know who joined the army at 16 spent 4 years getting drunk around the world and now that he's left he does the exact same thing

Yeah the guy I know who did join up after uni seemed to spend all his time in her majesty’s army in a haze of drunken racism and homoeroticism. He’s an air traffic controller now.

Pound_Coin
Feb 5, 2004
£


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/01/ireland-will-have-final-say-on-progress-of-brexit-talks-says-eu


Ireland gets the final say on the border.

loving Hilarious.

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

nopantsjack posted:

Jermakin' me phwoaaaarbyn

Mycroft Holmes
Mar 26, 2010

by Azathoth

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Yeah but British shipbuilders didn't see any reason not to get paid building blockade runners and commerce raiders for the traitor states, and even laid down a couple ironclads if memory serves (which I think later got sold to the Ottomans), all while the government bought the flimsiest goddamn excuses imaginable about what the ships were being built to do, and for whom.

if i'm not wrong one or two had mostly british crews as well.

edit: the CSS Alabama is the one i can find most reference to.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Mycroft Holmes posted:

if i'm not wrong one or two had mostly british crews as well.

edit: the CSS Alabama is the one i can find most reference to.

According to McPherson, many Confederate raiders from early-ish in the war had British crewmen, and at time officers, particularly when they were still acting as quasi-privateers and taking prizes (usually to be sold in British ports in the Caribbean), as that was a way to potentially make bank without too much risk as even if caught, the legal grey area meant they usually just got shipped back to British territory. Later, when the raiders switch to straight-up destruction on the high sea (for which the Alabama was famous) this becomes less common but British personnel never fully vanish from Confederate crew manifests.

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


Merry Christmas!

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

Mycroft Holmes posted:

not forgiving the danes is similar to how i still haven't forgiven the uk for aiding the confederacy during the american civil war. "private individuals" my rear end. you built them loving ships.

It was a bit of a mixed bag. Workers in Manchester refused to use confederate cotton despite it driving them out of work. Lincoln even wrote them a thank you letter.

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

lol

https://twitter.com/afp/status/936643934582984704

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Oh no guys, we might actually have to do some work as opposed to just getting the cameras down and writing some soundbites for the news.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

UrbicaMortis posted:

Workers in Manchester refused to use confederate cotton despite it driving them out of work.

Where, if I remember right, Friedrich Engels was working at his family's industrial firm at the time.

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?


I find it funny how everyone in the Brexit elite forgot the republic of Ireland is its own country and has a veto in the eu.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007


:britain:

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Trillions of dollars and millions of livelihoods on the line and it all comes down to Ireland.

lol

lmao

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

UrbicaMortis posted:

I find it funny how everyone in the Brexit elite forgot the republic of Ireland is its own country and has a veto in the eu.
They've got a year to change that.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Where, if I remember right, Friedrich Engels was working at his family's industrial firm at the time.
If you mean "managing a 19th century factory", yes.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Aw yeah go ireland! Twist the knife!

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

jBrereton posted:

one of the biggest god drat lies of fake history

the French helped the Confederacy so they could prop up their ~Mexican Empire~, but the British state was basically pro US and kept trading with em and refused to recognise the independence of the CSA with a treaty (partly for domestic politics partly for the sake of Canada not getting invaded).

The whole thing was kind of convoluted. Britain (being something of a democracy) had pro-Confederate and pro-Union voices. The pro-Confederates wanted to take the US down a peg or three, and keep access to cheap cotton, while the pro-Unionists varied between anti-slavery and "oh poo poo, we're all going to starve to death if the US cuts off grain exports". Also Prussia and Russia basically said that if France and Britain war-decced the USA, it was open season on all the European minors while they weren't looking. At any rate, the British were able to introduce cotton to Egypt and India, at the minor price of destroying those country's ability to be self-sufficient in food, so they didn't end up needing Confederate cotton anyway.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Jose posted:

the press are really terrified of corbyn because he'll probably bring in some proper press regulation which we desperately need

nationalize the daily fail

and burn it

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We
british shipbuilders sold ships to the russian empire for fucks sakes, who were almost always adversarial with the british government

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

british shipbuilders sold ships to the russian empire for fucks sakes, who were almost always adversarial with the british government

:capitalism:

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

sullat posted:

At any rate, the British were able to introduce cotton to Egypt and India, at the minor price of destroying those country's ability to be self-sufficient in food, so they didn't end up needing Confederate cotton anyway.

Helped that there was a major glut on the world market in 1861 and British manufacturers had tons of unprocessed cotton in their warehouses that helped them through the initial period of Confederate boycott.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Zeroisanumber posted:

Trillions of dollars and millions of livelihoods on the line and it all comes down to Ireland.

lol

lmao

ireland will honestly probably do the sanest negotiating we're gonna see from the UK side

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

nopantsjack posted:

ireland will honestly probably do the sanest negotiating we're gonna see from the UK side
(Ireland isn't in the UK)

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

https://twitter.com/TheBirmingham6/status/932186392385478657

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/guardian/status/936680001642037248

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


jBrereton posted:

(Ireland isn't in the UK)

gently caress u

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byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

nopantsjack posted:

i agree trump will win anyway, i just think theres a good chance he spooks and does a war.

as for a minor nuclear war, if its with korea i feel like i'll be ok in scotland, it probably won't feel very minor to some though
incidentally a nuclear war that didn't end in armageddon would be an extremely dangerous precedent to set /clancychat

yes wwii is a bad precedent

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