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Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
Finally we're starting to get the international recognition we deserve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58qij6vGNEQ

(I don't know that I'd have gone with a politician)

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Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Rinkles posted:

Finally we're starting to get the international recognition we deserve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58qij6vGNEQ

(I don't know that I'd have gone with a politician)

holy poo poo, PiS :popeye:

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Somaen posted:

"small, victorious war"

Sad thing it will start with "terrorist acts" with usual FSB people carrying the explosives.

Rinkles posted:

Finally we're starting to get the international recognition we deserve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58qij6vGNEQ

(I don't know that I'd have gone with a politician)

Idk, Polska is pretty known.
I've been once and I loved it.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Rinkles posted:

Finally we're starting to get the international recognition we deserve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58qij6vGNEQ

(I don't know that I'd have gone with a politician)

Congrats to Poland on becoming home to Original Character Legally Distinct from Natalia Poklonskaya

szary
Mar 12, 2014
so this is where the PFN money went!

Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

This is the weirdest poo poo. I have no idea what to make of it.

Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

Guess I’ll have to enjoy it

Sekenr
Dec 12, 2013




Luka nf Putin met today. No statement was given by either. One theory I read was that meeting was to equalize both systems, in that case prepare yourselves, Russians

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
Georgian president is trying really hard to become the next Luka/Putin. Opposition party leaders were violently arrested today for... not paying a fine, they incurred whole protesting questionable elections. Sigh

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Sekenr posted:

Luka nf Putin met today. No statement was given by either. One theory I read was that meeting was to equalize both systems, in that case prepare yourselves, Russians

What? Do we have to buy new maps again soon?

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Did Russia ever get around to actually taking care of their elderly population? About 4 years ago they passed legislation that was supposed to ensure that the elderly don't get ignored and it's supposed to be fully implemented a couple of years from now.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

spacetoaster posted:

Did Russia ever get around to actually taking care of their elderly population? About 4 years ago they passed legislation that was supposed to ensure that the elderly don't get ignored and it's supposed to be fully implemented a couple of years from now.

Well they disabled free public transportation IDs of elderly people and are issuing fines if elderly are caught outside going to hospitals, getting food etc
As well as moved pension age to 65/60 m/f from 60/55
Also the inflation is 15% yearly while pension indexing is like 2%
Also reduced pensions for working elderly people

So yeah, no.

Hizawk
Jun 18, 2004

High on the Lions.

A Russian male has a life expectancy of 65.1 years.

So, no.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Hizawk posted:

A Russian male has a life expectancy of 65.1 years.

So, no.

Vladimir Putin is 68. If only there was less deviation...

(by the way, Gorbachev just turned 90 on Tuesday :toot:)

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

Nenonen posted:

(by the way, Gorbachev just turned 90 on Tuesday :toot:)

Pizza Hut, the secret to longevity

alex314
Nov 22, 2007

Nenonen posted:

Vladimir Putin is 68. If only there was less deviation...

(by the way, Gorbachev just turned 90 on Tuesday :toot:)

He'll outlive us all. Or once his heart stops we'll have a couple of minutes left as missiles auto-launch anyway..

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/1367525802884104199

Can't imagine why the UK would be hesitant to share that information.

Hal_2005
Feb 23, 2007
In a small toast to myself, Kolomoskyi is now on the sanctions list. At this rate the FBI and DOJ will be extraditing him to stand trial sometime before 2040. Which should be just around the time Ukraine is seeking reunification for defaulting on their IMF debts to protect said psychopath from justice.

Also, big shoutout to the poster FKA BrownMoses who made Time this month. Be sure to apply for a peerage, you deserve it.

jonnypeh
Nov 5, 2006
Meanwhile here in Estonia, covid pandemic has gone out of control. Now it's a damned good idea not to get injured in any way because there is no medical personnel available. We do have beds but no people to watch them. Ignoring the experiences of previous spring in Italy, Spain, other countries and what Czechia had in October (and is having now, IIRC?) our governments (the previous one and the current one) decided to gamble with restrictions in a bid to keep the economy alive (and their chances of getting elected) and we all lost. Masks were of course voluntary, the government told people to use common sense. At my workplace they made masks mandatory since the beginning of september because first new infections were found a few weeks before.

Vaccination with astra-zeneca is also going slowly because nurses have to persuade people to take it. Some people (generally Russians) would prefer Sputnik V. They heard on the news that it's better and doesn't cause any deaths or other side effects. Unlike AZ. One fellow died some days ago mere days after getting vaccinated, which doesn't help one bit.

I was going to try emigrating anyway once this pandemic blows over. Just padding my CV now. Because we can't even build a sidewalk.

jonnypeh fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Mar 7, 2021

Captain Kosmos
Mar 28, 2010

think of it like the "Who's Who" of genitals

Estonia did pretty well in the last wave or one before that, can't remember anymore on which wave we are on.
Wonder what's so different this time?

jonnypeh
Nov 5, 2006
The first time it was an immediate state of emergency, all borders closed, people bought a lot of supplies and didn't generally come out of their homes unless they needed to go to work or do shopping. My superiors anticipated this and even before the state of emergency, anyone who didn't need to be in the office was sent home and took their desktop computers with them. The cases blew over by the end of May. 1/4 of our domestic retail market depends on our warehouse, the office is in the same building. So we need to be extra serious about it.

Then the second time. It all started out slow in late August at some party. No panic, business as usual. Unlike in spring we had the testing capacity right away. The government didn't take it as seriously as the first time, no drastic measures. Soon wearing a mask was recommended, but that was about it. There were also a bunch of measures that I didn't bother paying attention to because I already wore a mask in public places and I limited my comings and goings and shopping to off-peak hours since september. First they close some schools, then kindergartens, then reopen schools, open, close, open, close. At some point restaurants were permitted to deliver only, etc. A bunch of them were lifted before the last coalition disbanded, the new one didn't reinstate anything. Even if one of the coalition parties is the same as before.

Apparently some people have been traveling abroad and enjoying themselves all this time. Some bigwigs celebrated somebody's birthday in a major way in November, with hundreds of partygoers - no reperecussions of any sort. A colleague went to Tenerife for a week, our president went on a ski trip to Switzerland in late December, my mother went to a cruise around the Aegean and a number of our cases now are from Tanzania. In late february we had a ski marathon, just some 3500 participants.

That's the difference.

I recently read some news about Italy stopping a shipment of AZ vaccine to Australia. How terrible of them. Then I looked up Australia's figures. Population 25 million, number of new cases 7-day average is 8. Yesterday we had 1,540. Czechia has a population of 10,65 million and they had 13,162 yesterday. Googling country name + covid gives the graphs right away.

jonnypeh
Nov 5, 2006
I haven't posted about Estonia in a while, but let me tell you about how our previous coalition fell apart just a little bit over a month ago. It consisted of three parties (I'll also give the european parliament groups that they're a part of, this might give you a better idea of what they're about).
pro patria party (EPP), conservative racists ("Identity and Democracy"), the center party (ALDE). The D-Day was almost upon us, the referendum those conservative racists really wanted: the question of marriage. Should it be between a man and a woman only.
But it didn't come to it because mere days before the police detained an adviser to the minister of finance (held by a conservative racist) and accused her of taking bribes and facilitating bribes. They also detained a former businessman, accusing him of trying to benefit his son's business by giving said bribes and then some leading fellow from the center party. The prime minister (center party) resigned and no more coalition. That was actually very convenient. Maybe too convenient.

Then the center party said they're willing to form a new coalition with the party that actually won the last elections, the reform party (also ALDE). They switched out some of their own ministers and the head of the reform party Kaja Kallas took the prime minister's position. But what I've been seeing, she doesn't really grasp the situation. I thought better of her.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
This is depressing to hear I'm so sorry

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

jonnypeh posted:

Ignoring the experiences of previous spring in Italy, Spain, other countries and what Czechia had in October (and is having now, IIRC?)

Oh yes right now too, very much so.



That's active cass. There are very few beds and doctors available. Some regions are straight up out.

There's supposedly a lockdown going on but I didn't notice any difference from past few weeks. You're not supposed to not travel, but there are enough loopholes to drive an oil tanker through. You can still go to work (WFH isn't mandatory, manufacturing is still chugging along), home, and you can write s paper yourself proclaiming that you are going for essential purposes. Cops are supposed to check at regional borders but I haven't seen a single one.



That's almost 200 deaths a few days ago, in the US this would correspond to over 6000 lol. Went from #1 I'm handling last year to #1 in deaths :toot:

Putrid Dog
Feb 13, 2012

"God, I wish I was dead!"

jonnypeh posted:

I recently read some news about Italy stopping a shipment of AZ vaccine to Australia. How terrible of them. Then I looked up Australia's figures. Population 25 million, number of new cases 7-day average is 8. Yesterday we had 1,540. Czechia has a population of 10,65 million and they had 13,162 yesterday. Googling country name + covid gives the graphs right away.


The John Hopkins site is really good for different graphs.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

As an Australian, the general consensus from the average person in here is that Italy/the EU needs the vaccines much more urgently than we do.
We will have our own manufacturing of the Astra-Zeneca vaccine being produced within the next few weeks so it's only a slight delay.

Our Covid cases are in the people undergoing the mandatory two week hotel quarantine and the odd community case would usually be a quarantine hotel worker or someone that transports international arrivals.
A community case basically ensures the whole state undergoes a snap 5 day lockdown and all close contacts are required to isolate for 2 weeks even if getting a negative result.
We are only allowing people to travel here for work on exemption passes or citizens wanting to return and with a cap on the numbers allowed in to allow the hotels to not be overwhelmed.
Basically the population has found any outbreak to be unacceptable and the state politicians in power are granted re-election for succeeding.


I didn't realise Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia had handled 2020 with so few covid cases until winter hit seeing the countries around them didn't fare so well. The price of not banning travel between countries I suppose when Covid is going crazy in the rest of Europe.

Captain Kosmos
Mar 28, 2010

think of it like the "Who's Who" of genitals

jonnypeh posted:

The first time it was an immediate state of emergency, all borders closed, people bought a lot of supplies and didn't generally come out of their homes unless they needed to go to work or do shopping...

So similar stuff as in Finland, first wave hitted is worse than you, but it was still pretty ok.
Now I guess people are getting frustrated on the whole thing and some covid denier's are fighting against everything and especially against the socialist female goverment and the infections are on the rise. We barely had any restrictions and it's hard to restrict anything cause freedom :patriot:
People are not flying to abroad that much, but going to lapland and infection people there and then spreading them all over country.

People are so loving stupid.

jonnypeh
Nov 5, 2006
According to what I just found in the news, the police can't even fine people who don't follow the restrictions or who don't wear the mask. They must relay that information to the health administration, who've fined two companies so far, each for a sum of 1250€. No fines towards any persons. According to the officials, the punishment is not the goal. The goal is to "inform, educate and give them masks". In some cases anti-maskers have just stood their ground until the police or mall security have better things to do.

:)

Gladi
Oct 23, 2008

mobby_6kl posted:

There's supposedly a lockdown going on but I didn't notice any difference from past few weeks. You're not supposed to not travel, but there are enough loopholes to drive an oil tanker through. You can still go to work (WFH isn't mandatory, manufacturing is still chugging along), home, and you can write s paper yourself proclaiming that you are going for essential purposes. Cops are supposed to check at regional borders but I haven't seen a single one.

There are border guards and soldier past Tschaslau and they are from what I heard more then happy to stop people.. Meanwhile here in Prague if I were to tell off every rulebreaker, I would end up walking the dog just once in a day - we would set out in morning and come back at night.

Guildencrantz
May 1, 2012

IM ONE OF THE GOOD ONES
Here in Poland we're pretty much back to the Golden Liberty days. There's a whole movement of restaurants and even nightclubs just straight up opening in full on civil disobedience mode, and of course having whole maskless superspreader events. Because the government is incredibly incompetent at law, some business owners are challenging the resulting fines in court and winning. Others are just doing whatever the hell they want because the state doesn't have the resources to effectively prosecute everyone. Various degrees of covid denial are surging and public opinion is visibly swinging hard towards "I want my life back, and if it means grandma dies then welp she had a good run".

I can kind of understand the people who have a choice between opening and going bankrupt due to the lack of public support. But wow every single anti-mask moron with their "you can't tell me what to do" mindset should be loving forced to do community service in a hospital covid ward for a month, with the alternative being exorbitant fines that ruin their lovely lives and get paid to families of victims. I'm done having any empathy for these selfish assholes.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Guildencrantz posted:

Here in Poland we're pretty much back to the Golden Liberty days. There's a whole movement of restaurants and even nightclubs just straight up opening in full on civil disobedience mode, and of course having whole maskless superspreader events. Because the government is incredibly incompetent at law, some business owners are challenging the resulting fines in court and winning. Others are just doing whatever the hell they want because the state doesn't have the resources to effectively prosecute everyone. Various degrees of covid denial are surging and public opinion is visibly swinging hard towards "I want my life back, and if it means grandma dies then welp she had a good run".

I can kind of understand the people who have a choice between opening and going bankrupt due to the lack of public support. But wow every single anti-mask moron with their "you can't tell me what to do" mindset should be loving forced to do community service in a hospital covid ward for a month, with the alternative being exorbitant fines that ruin their lovely lives and get paid to families of victims. I'm done having any empathy for these selfish assholes.

Do you guys have a legal state of emergency or just an "official recommendation" to sit home?
Are there any laws issued regarding that?

Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

Erulisse posted:

Do you guys have a legal state of emergency or just an "official recommendation" to sit home?
Are there any laws issued regarding that?

Our government opted not to go for a state of emergency, because it would be actually liable financially for many things, and also would mean the presidential elections of 2020, already looking tight, would have to be postponed.

What they actually did was introduce a legislation through the parliament that aims to do what an act of emergency does, only without the liability attached. This doesn’t work, though, because an act of emergency can withhold parts of the constitution, while parliamentary legislation can’t. This means that the pigs, sanitation services and even the tax guard are enrolled into executing the legislation by arresting people for “illegal gatherings” or opening up their business, and courts are throwing these cases out as unconstitutional. It’s still a major hassle, as you have to pay fines upfront and the pigs are being dicks about it, transporting arrestees to jails hundreds of kilometers away and making sure that everyone, including grannies, gets their anal cavity searched.

Meanwhile, government political rallies are a-ok. Also, it’s legal to train if you’re part of a national representation for something - anything - so a bunch of these have sprang up. Pay 10 euro, enroll to the Polish association of winter swimmers or line pullers or whatever the gently caress, and you’re free to go to fitness clubs. At least one minister was caught doing this for her kids, who, despite being 10-ish, were enrolled to represent Poland in skiing so they could go to a ski camp. Many restaurants are now open by appointment only, and cops are stalking outside the more popular outfits, harassing people. Some of the clubs have been so efficient in juggling regulations - becoming a museum of alcohol one week, and a beer tasting school the next - the tax guard had to be called in to requisite alcohol stocks on made ip charges. It’s a loving mess, but kinda a typical Polish mess, with lots of people being cynical assholes to each other.

Now, I’m a loving neckbeard goon computer toucher so this has been a wonderful year of sitting at home and watching anime, but people are going nuts and actively being shat on by those in power. Everybody’s just super bummed and looking for any out.

Mokotow fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Mar 9, 2021

alex314
Nov 22, 2007

Looking on the bright side: we'll probably get a decent comedy movie or a couple out of it (like the Alternatywy 4 from 1980' collapse of government). Hopefully it will be done by anyone but that fucko Patryk Vega.

szary
Mar 12, 2014
Alternatywy 4 was cool when I watched it in the 90s, actually living through it is much less fun.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Erulisse posted:

Well they disabled free public transportation IDs of elderly people and are issuing fines if elderly are caught outside going to hospitals, getting food etc
As well as moved pension age to 65/60 m/f from 60/55
Also the inflation is 15% yearly while pension indexing is like 2%
Also reduced pensions for working elderly people

So yeah, no.

So bad.

My MIL is having to deal with the system. She needs a medical person to show up at least once a day to change surgery dressings and the hospital is like: "We don't do that, call social services." and then social services is like: "We don't do that, call the hospital."

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

https://twitter.com/XSovietNews/status/1371434521351102470

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.
That's what you get when you publish truth about chechnya.
Use google translate, should not be hard to read but poo poo's nasty if you're unfamiliar https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2021/03/15/ia-sluzhil-v-chechenskoi-politsii-i-ne-khotel-ubivat-liudei-18

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
Chemical smell, eh?? :smug: Do you mean lethal chemical like H2O? :smug: :smug:

Somaen
Nov 19, 2007

by vyelkin

Erulisse posted:

That's what you get when you publish truth about chechnya.
Use google translate, should not be hard to read but poo poo's nasty if you're unfamiliar https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2021/03/15/ia-sluzhil-v-chechenskoi-politsii-i-ne-khotel-ubivat-liudei-18

This is some horrifying poo poo. Some destabilizing regional events and this place will turn into the islamic state pretty quickly

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.
It is. Only thing holding them back is putin's feeding hand. In fact, they are taught (in family) that strength is in force, the man should be a fighter and a warrior and woman should shut the gently caress up and obey and behave herself. Taught that they can exploit the weak and take what they want because they have the right of the strongest. The whole "russian" caucasus is omfg wtf atrocious.
A few days ago a woman had her parental rights removed by court. She divorced 10 years ago, never received alimony and was supporting her kids alone. Basis of the decision? She is not wearing a hijab, has coloured hair and has piercing!
I can't even.

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WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Nenonen posted:

Chemical smell, eh?? :smug: Do you mean lethal chemical like H2O? :smug: :smug:

Chemical smell.

Wait

Does that mean that the liberal media poisoned skripal?

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