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You can tell a prozeebo from a nozeebo by how well they wall in and murder pursuers.
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I love catching Varians mid-charge in the zombie ring and watching them pinball around in there.
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Oct 20, 2017 14:29
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jackhunter64 posted:I love catching Varians mid-charge in the zombie ring and watching them pinball around in there. My favorite is getting ambushed by a Zeratul, toss a wall out 50 feet away, toss spiders and toad. Zeratul blinks away, and traps himself in the circle. 
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Oct 20, 2017 16:07
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As someone who is relatively new, who is a good streamer to watch for strats and good plays? The OP has some good guides, but curious to see some video breakdowns too. If it helps, I currently play Diablo and Zeebo, and need to round out my experience with other types of heroes. What are 5 good core heroes to learn?
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Oct 20, 2017 16:36
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Valla Sonya Greymane Rehgar Fifth is up to you. Anubarak if you want another tank, Jaina if you want a mage, Brightwing if you want a healer. First four I wrote are very strong at macro as well as their team fight roles and are pretty much always good. No Wave fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Oct 20, 2017 |
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Oct 20, 2017 16:44
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Nybble posted:As someone who is relatively new, who is a good streamer to watch for strats and good plays? The OP has some good guides, but curious to see some video breakdowns too. Chu8 has great educational YouTube content. I would add Azmodan to No Wave's list, suggest ETC over Anub, and LiLi over Rehgar for learning to support and Uther for a second possible support.
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Oct 20, 2017 17:17
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Why would you recommend uther to a new player and not rehgar, one of the most fun supports.
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Oct 20, 2017 17:19
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I dunno if I'd recommend Greymane to a new player. Greymane is kind of a risk taker. Valla though is one of the best characters for a new player
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Oct 20, 2017 17:21
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Jaina is a good hero to learn. There'll definitely be games where you need that consistent burst damage from range and she's easier to learn than Kaelthas or Kel.
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Oct 20, 2017 17:22
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Why would you recommend uther to a new player and not rehgar, one of the most fun supports. That is also an argument in favor of Jaina or Thrall as assassin's to learn on top of Valla; they're only 4k gold each.
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Oct 20, 2017 17:35
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Lili and Uther are rear end at macro. Anyone starting out will have to atone for the macro sins of their teammates so I'm sticking with the Rehgar rec. ETC vs anub, idk, doesn't really matter, my thought process was that he's got dibble and anub is pretty different. Azmo's just a weird character. He does nothing I enjoy in a moba so I don't recommend him in general. He's already got Nazeebo if he wants to siege hard. Reminder that the guy was asking for core heroes - ie safe picks on every map/comp - not noob heroes. No Wave fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Oct 20, 2017 |
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Oct 20, 2017 17:39
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I would also like to throw in Dunktrain to the list of streamers, not as much of a memelord as chu8 and is more skilled than Grubby imo. Also interacts with chat a lot. e: its just Dunktrain, he streams US evening primetimes most weeknights Also if you are a filthy euro, cris is a good player that streams often, twitch handle is "crisheroes" Polio Vax Scene fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Oct 20, 2017 |
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Oct 20, 2017 17:39
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Is his twitch name just Dunktrain or is there some other letters in there? Does he stream regularly?
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Oct 20, 2017 17:43
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No Wave posted:Lili and Uther are rear end at macro. Anyone starting out will have to atone for the macro sins of their teammates so I'm sticking with the Rehgar rec. As quite a newbie as well, can you elaborate on what you mean with Uther and lili being bad at macro?
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Star posted:As quite a newbie as well, can you elaborate on what you mean with Uther and lili being bad at macro?
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Star posted:As quite a newbie as well, can you elaborate on what you mean with Uther and lili being bad at macro? Rehgar is a very popular choice partially because if you take the level 1 talent Lightning Bond, place a totem and cast lightning shield on it, you can take merc camps and kill minion waves incredibly quickly. This is important for map control and pushing up to towers, but also because being near a minion when it dies gives you experience. Your teammates in QM and HL will often forget this and you'll be working very hard to soak as much xp as possible most of the time. A common way to do this is by killing a wave of minions on your way to an objective.
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Nybble posted:As someone who is relatively new, who is a good streamer to watch for strats and good plays? The OP has some good guides, but curious to see some video breakdowns too. Those heroes cost either 2k or 4k gold, fit comfortably in your average team comp and are easy to play/not garbage tier: 2000G Malfurion: heal over time, good damage and CC in fights for a healer, good waveclear for a healer, no mobility Valla: mobile, very high damage, very fluid and satisfying to play, can be mana hungry depending on the build, low HP pool, need to use attack move properly ETC: good CC, great initiation, less tanky than stuff like Diablo and more of a force multiplier for your team Azmodan: great siege and (easy to use) global pressure, very large HP pool and a blink talent in late game makes him fairly forgiving 4000G Jaina: very good aoe damage with a strong slow, innate defensive talent that you acquire through a quest, but still weak to very mobile assassins Thrall: extremely durable for an assassin, amazing sustain, less damage and range than other assassins, very strong teamfight ult (earthquake) or initiation tool (fissure), fairly weak for the first few levels as he has to stack his quest Sonya: strong at any point of the game, very good laning, good sustain, manaless, can initiate on/blow up a squishy with leap or brawl for days with the other ult, very consistent and almost never a bad pick Muradin: a big fat sack of HP that just stuns everything forever, also has anti right click tools, just got reworked but seems very good, huge HP sustain Johanna: same thing as Muradin, better initiation, more geared against autoattackers but can still do her job against mages Anubarak: initiation, two AoE stuns, cocoon is extremely powerful, better against spell casters in general Uther: healer with strong utility and teamfighting, still useful after his death I strongly recommend Sonya, Malfurion, Thrall, Muradin and Jaina. Easy to play, fun, effective.
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Nybble posted:As someone who is relatively new, who is a good streamer to watch for strats and good plays? The OP has some good guides, but curious to see some video breakdowns too. I mostly watch nubkeks: https://www.youtube.com/user/nubkeks He streams his own HL games but also does viewer replay coaching which are pretty handy for like what *not* to do. He actually did a 5 core heros video recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXpkBKpPAPE Greymane, Sonya, ETC, Rehgar, and Sylvanus is what he said.
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What's the trick to landing chromie skillshots and is it even worth the effort? I tried her for the first time last night and it was amazingly frustrating having to deal with the wind up time and that stupid quest to level up her q. Is she just supposed to sit on the other side of view obstructing terrain?
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Oct 20, 2017 21:15
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just mash q and assume no one will dodge at the last second
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appropriatemetaphor posted:just mash q and assume no one will dodge at the last second Ah yes, the ana method, with the disadvantage that you can't yell at your teammates when they die because they're dancing like a lunatic.
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Erdricks posted:What's the trick to landing chromie skillshots and is it even worth the effort? I tried her for the first time last night and it was amazingly frustrating having to deal with the wind up time and that stupid quest to level up her q. Is she just supposed to sit on the other side of view obstructing terrain?
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Oct 20, 2017 21:49
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After a long break from hots, my heart dropped when I saw my girl chromie had been changed. However, I have to say the new chromie fuckin owns and I clean up more than ever with her.
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Oct 20, 2017 22:25
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5 heroes everyone should own are Sonya, Rehgar, Valla, ETC, and Nazeebo. All of them can be played on any map and have low to no drawback to being on a team. The only hero with a real learning curve is Sonya and that is just learning how to secure kills without dying. If you wanna watch someone whose good at the game, just play a game with me when I'm online.
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tcjimbo posted:5 heroes everyone should own are Sonya, Rehgar, Valla, ETC, and Nazeebo. All of them can be played on any map and have low to no drawback to being on a team. The only hero with a real learning curve is Sonya and that is just learning how to secure kills without dying. If you wanna watch someone whose good at the game, just play a game with me when I'm online. you dropped this 
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Oct 21, 2017 00:11
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Sonya owns. She tanks, she hits things, she breaks towers, she breaks your face. She NEEDS MORE RAGE 
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My guilty pleasure is sadly Nova. If I want to be absolutely brain dead I’ll que as her and bullseye players with her full one in the chamber combo. And Lili is my favorite alongside Leoric.
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tcjimbo posted:If you wanna watch someone whose good at the game, just play a game with me when I'm online. 
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Seebach posted:My guilty pleasure is sadly Nova. If I want to be absolutely brain dead I’ll que as her and bullseye players with her full one in the chamber combo. just had a game where our nova was flaming our junkrat because junkrat is a 'no skill point and click'; he didn't like when i said 'yeah like nova' and got real mad
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Oct 21, 2017 01:29
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Maybe junkrat should have stealth then he’ll truly be skilled
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Oct 21, 2017 06:56
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Why is Artanis one of the only bruisers who clicks with me 
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Kitfox88 posted:Why is Artanis one of the only bruisers who clicks with me also his swap is hard to use and feels really lovely in a post-Garrosh meta.
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Seebach posted:My guilty pleasure is sadly Nova. If I want to be absolutely brain dead I’ll que as her and bullseye players with her full one in the chamber combo. cheer up, you could be one of those murky lovers
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Oct 21, 2017 16:56
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Painful flashbacks of alpha murky
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Oct 21, 2017 16:59
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murky was so cool before they added fuckin tracer god tracer was a poo poo addition to the game
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No way Tracer vs Murky rules cause you can tilt them and they waste their pulse bomb on you. Oh no I'm pulse bombed oh well now I'm bubbled and the pulse bomb was wasted good work tracer.
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Murky was hots original Satan cancer
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