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I kind of like seeing it at the G still - when West Coast can win at the MCG on a regular basis, we usually do pretty well in the finals too. Hats off to Richmond, they wanted it more. The right Crows side didn't show up and the Tigers just took control after half time. Even though I was rooting for Adelaide, I didn't really mind either of these teams winning the flag. (gently caress off Hawks)
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hiddenmovement posted:Hot take: In the meantime I think the AFL probably needs to work the fixture a bit better to get non-vic teams more time at the G each year. for an interstate team, over half the rest of the competition is an victorian team. They play 10 games away a year (excluding the local derbys), so every team should get at least 2-3 games at the G per year. This year it was: Sydney 4 Adelaide 3 Brisbane and Port 2 West Coast, Gold Coast, GWS 1 I think it's doable on a schedule basis too. This year there were 46 games at the G in the regular season, despite rounds 1, 2, 5, 15 having 3 games each there. you can get to 46 just by having 2 games there every round, and then things like public holiday games, the opening round, and thursday night footy are opportunities to expand on that. Solemn Sloth fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Sep 30, 2017 |
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snoremac posted:It's not even a possibility until 2037 when the current contract with the MCG ends. So, plenty of time to build a 100,000 seat stadium in each of the capital cities?
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gay picnic defence posted:So, plenty of time to build a 100,000 seat stadium in each of the capital cities? "This started the Stadium Cold War in Australia, each capital city building bigger, grander, sporting grounds"
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Ultimately the blame for this can be cast back to the WAFL
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Get a 70k+ stadium of afl quality (not anz) in each capital city and it’ll be good to have a moving grand final. At this point though, even ignoring the contract issue, it isn’t feasible.
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gay picnic defence posted:Apparently one of Merv Keane's kids died Further to this, supposedly one of his daughters took her own life and then his wife couldn't cope and did the same.
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realbez posted:Get a 70k+ stadium of afl quality (not anz) in each capital city and it’ll be good to have a moving grand final. At this point though, even ignoring the contract issue, it isn’t feasible. It's never going to change, because it's never going to stop being the VFL plus guests. That ship sailed in 1986.
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gay picnic defence posted:Further to this, supposedly one of his daughters took her own life and then his wife couldn't cope and did the same. Oh poo poo 
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NTRabbit posted:Ultimately the blame for this can be cast back to the WAFL Wait what
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NPR Journalizard posted:Wait what If the WAFL hadn't caved and abandoned the SANFL in 86 to buy the eagles license and bail out the VFL, we'd have ended up with a properly independent AFL, with 3 WA teams, 3 SA teams, 1 team each from QLD and NSW, and 4 teams from Victoria, with the VFL remaining a second tier competition.
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Solemn Sloth posted:In the meantime I think the AFL probably needs to work the fixture a bit better to get non-vic teams more time at the G each year. There's at least 2 interstate team v Hawthorn games at Launceston that might otherwise be at the G. Melbourne gives up one to NT, Anyway, from my reading and messing around I think there's three factors that make up the home ground advantage: Travel Umpiring Familiarity with ground Wrapped up in this is the size/shape of the ground - from next year, the new Perth Stadium's dimensions are going to be more like Docklands than Kardinia/Subiaco, and whatever subtle effect that has on things like Lyonball or whatever, well, we'll find out. Generally I think it'll be a positive for the WA teams but it's also going to make things less daunting for visiting teams too. When West Coast started off in the 80s the disparity was something like 36 points (or 18 against neutral) and over the years that's come in to something like 13 against neutral. At that stage they were playing out of both Subiaco and the WACA but I think at the time air travel and accomodation was still a thing clubs were having to learn to manage. I think Sydney's HGA is something like 10. Anyway, because those numbers are so close to 12 points that's what I've gone with as a general rule, it improves the results as it is and fine tuning it further is due to noise. As for the "home teams are disadvantaged", from 1987 to the end of the Lion triptych, in non-Vic v Vic grand finals 1991 Hawthorn d West Coast 1992 West Coast d Geelong 1994 West Coast d Geelong 1996 North Melb d Sydney 1997 Adelaide d St Kilda 1998 Adelaide d North Melb 2001 Brisbane d Essendon 2002 Brisbane d Collingwood 2003 Brisbane d Collingwood SO that's 6-2 to interstate sides to that point. Skip three years where Victorian clubs didn't even make the big dance... 2007 Geelong d Port Adelaide 2012 Sydney d Hawthorn 2013 Hawthorn d Fremantle 2014 Hawthorn d Sydney 2015 Hawthorn d West Coast 2016 Western Bulldogs d Sydney 2017 Richmond d Adelaide So now it's back to 7-8. poo poo ebbs and flows. The only other current stadium with a capacity even close to the MCG's is, ugh, Stadium Australia, which is a hole and might get demolished or at least significantly reconfigured in the next decade. (Also, the first game on my list was of course Waverley which could house 80,000 but of course that's gone now, replaced by Docklands as a major venue.) Given the screeching for tickets, there is really only one option in the country at this stage. In 20 years time? If Perth's new stadium gets stretched out to 80,000? It's possible. The two Sydney clubs get established enough that a proper new oval stadium? Doubtful. Well, the SCG is very popular with Swans fans, and given that the demographic divide from the west it makes sense to keep the Giants there and develop that cross-town rivalry - I wouldn't mind betting a new stadium gets put in somewhere, maybe west of Parramatta, but the Showground is suitable enough until they get really established.
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NTRabbit posted:If the WAFL hadn't caved and abandoned the SANFL in 86 to buy the eagles license and bail out the VFL, we'd have ended up with a properly independent AFL, with 3 WA teams, 3 SA teams, 1 team each from QLD and NSW, and 4 teams from Victoria, with the VFL remaining a second tier competition.
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The SANFL making out like they were the VFL's equal when in fact they were a feeder comp is one of the more adorable things about football history.
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That was always the big VFL lie, ignoring that the only reason the players were in Victoria is that the VFL clubs spent money they didn't have to do it, and were all trading while insolvent. A proper AFL would have been much better than the poo poo we have.
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Right so that's while we ignore all the internecine crap between Norwood and Port backstabbing each other. The VFL's biggest problem was being scared of TV rights affecting gate takings - not just in the VFL but in suburban/country leagues, the idea being that if there wasn't a game on TV people wouldn't go to their local game. Shunting South to Sydney and having them play on Sunday was the first step around that, because that was usually the only game of the weekend you could watch in full on TV.
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That has nothing to do with anything, but by all means keep spinning
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Anyway, the SANFL hosed up thinking the VFL would fall down before finding a machiavellian solution.
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It wasn't Machiavellian, it was simply ignoring the increasingly desperate overtures until they folded, which they would have done by 1990. The WAFL got suckered, and we've paid the price since
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NTRabbit posted:It wasn't Machiavellian, it was simply ignoring the increasingly desperate overtures until they folded, which they would have done by 1990. The WAFL got suckered, and we've paid the price since
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Babby's first grand final loss.
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The tigers are premiers!!!!!!!
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I’m picturing going outside today to be like leaving the vault in Fallout
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thepokey posted:I’m picturing going outside today to be like leaving the vault in Fallout I had breakfast at Trunk and they were here too
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I just drove past Punt Rd and it was astonishingly tame. Whole lotta yellow and black on display, but my car didn't even get rolled once. I'm honestly a little disappointed.
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It was beautiful last night on swan street. I wonder how it cleaned up
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The Deadly Hume posted:The SANFL making out like they were the VFL's equal when in fact they were a feeder comp is one of the more adorable things about football history. Particularly when it comes to power supporters trying to claim magpies premierships
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So the WAFL is the reason half the Adelaide side shat themselves in the grand final. OK then.
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Caught up on the NTRabbit meltdown. Didn't disappoint. 
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Also given that South Australia is able to pour most of their resources into the Crows with a bit left over for Port (given their constant bleating about their separate identity) so this would mean that the current Adelaide side gets a considerably bigger slice of support for recruiting, development, facilities etc than they would have in the 3 side SA split you propose, no? So you have a crows side that is better than in the scenario you claim, and they finished top of the ladder and made the grand final but it's somebody else's fault they lost?
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teacup posted:It was beautiful last night on swan street. I wonder how it cleaned up If it was me, I'd just open up the fire hydrants and wash everything away
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snaeksikn posted:Also given that South Australia is able to pour most of their resources into the Crows with a bit left over for Port (given their constant bleating about their separate identity) so this would mean that the current Adelaide side gets a considerably bigger slice of support for recruiting, development, facilities etc than they would have in the 3 side SA split you propose, no? Of course. And when they can't be blamed, they blame a 40+ loss on umpiring and claim you're blind if you can't see it. Then they say that although Richmond won they are a poo poo side anyway look at the bulldogs this year etc, as if any side this year didn't show significant flaws (if adelaide are as good as everyone says how did they not sit multiple games clear of the top rather than just one) Then when that doesn't work they'll also say "well they won but it's boring football", there's an article on fox footy (lol) right now lamenting a lower scoring style of game and "what about tall players  gently caress em all, you play the season, then finals, then the GF. Adelaide didn't make it through. Richmond are the champions. 🐯🐯🐯
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The Deadly Hume posted:Babby's first grand final loss. I just realized post-'82 Richmond babbies are the only babbies with a 100% GF success rate!
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What no they're not.
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Sorry you're right, the Dogs have one too.
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Just let him vent hes had a bad weekend
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hiddenmovement posted:Just let him vent hes had a bad weekend maybe people should care less about the results of sports games they're not in
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