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Alta and Baja California used the “north is up hurr” convention.
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Tobermory posted:Sure, my objection is that they are jamming a bunch of different concepts together in ways that don't make sense. Aristotle's whole discussion of "upper" and "lower" poles mostly came in the context of which parts of the celestial spheres were "right" and "left", because this was very important to the Pythagoreans. I'm so glad we moved away from the archaic and ridiculous "upper and lower" methodology for naming the polar regions and instead went with the much more sensible and modern system of "does or doesn't have bears"
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May 31, 2020 12:45
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Sky bears Opposite sky bears
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May 31, 2020 12:54
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Platystemon posted:Sky bears V. Important. Please let me know ASAP! (P.s Also important, sky bears rideable to safety? Yeah/Nah?)
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May 31, 2020 13:12
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Platystemon posted:Alta and Baja California used the “north is up hurr” convention. In pretty much all other cases in any language I've heard it used it refers to either upriver and downriver (ie the original Canadas, the Nile) or highland/interior and lowland/coastal (ie Saxony, the US south, the Netherlands v various nearby lands) and it's really not difficult at all to understand. And those are basically the same just not always based on one river. I blame California for causing the confusion. also DarkHorse posted:Totally in character for the US to settle the big-endian and little-endian debate by choosing the least useful and most confusing configuration of neither Anglo Canada also uses MM/DD/YYYY all the time and they do not get called out NEARLY enough for it see also: pounds, feet, inches, oven temperatures v outside temperatures being two separate units, they're honestly more inconsistent than americans in what unit you should use for a given thing.
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May 31, 2020 21:45
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Anglo Canada also uses MM/DD/YYYY all the time and they do not get called out NEARLY enough for it Yeah our problem is we are so intertwined with the US economically that we adopt anything they do because it's easier when dealing with US businesses, but then Canadian exclusive stuff all uses its own formatting which is mostly in metric.
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May 31, 2020 22:53
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Yeah our problem is we are so intertwined with the US economically that we adopt anything they do because it's easier when dealing with US businesses, but then Canadian exclusive stuff all uses its own formatting which is mostly in metric. It also happens if you like, ask a person what height they are in plain canadian english, or go to a gym and ask how much somebody benches, or ask a random ontarian to write the date.
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May 31, 2020 22:58
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:It also happens if you like, ask a person what height they are in plain canadian english, or go to a gym and ask how much somebody benches, or ask a random ontarian to write the date. Yeah it's fun. A completely plausible sentence to hear in Canada would be "I drove a kilometre to the store buy a pound of potatoes, a liter of milk, and 6 feet of rope". No english-speaking Canadian would find this wild intermixing of imperial and metric at all unusual.
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May 31, 2020 23:02
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The only thing keeping Canada from being worse than America is that many of the really bad Canadians emigrate to America.
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May 31, 2020 23:05
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I maintain the main functional distinction between anglo-Canada and the US is non-oven temperatures and kilometres v miles. In all other ways Canada is the same. And that km/mile distinction basically only applies to speed limits. Running in the US everyone does 5 and 10ks and marathons, and in Canada everyone knows a marathon is 26 miles, and everyone in both knows a 5k is 3.2 miles, etc. No one really knows what 150 miles vs 150km looks like but no one would ever describe that distance except in hours anyway.
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May 31, 2020 23:14
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Platystemon posted:The only thing keeping Canada from being worse than America is that many of the really bad Canadians emigrate to America. the answer to this is "population size" and nothing else.
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May 31, 2020 23:33
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Platystemon posted:The only thing keeping Canada from being worse than America is that many of the really bad Canadians emigrate to America. Thus raising the IQ of both countries  It's funny how some units survive for a long time. I think a lot of it comes down to which system you were raised in. In the 1990s, adults would often use stones to give you an approximation of how fat someone was, which was completely nonsensical to us metric kids. It must be about ten years since I've heard anyone do that which makes sense because the people who were adults in the 1969 have retired and the people who run things now have been raised metrically. Everyone in NZ can still tell you that six feet is a tall guy, but I doubt many younger kiwis could tell you off hand how many inches in a foot. On the other hand, I've never heard anyone in NZ casually use Fahrenheit, probably because weather forecasts have been using Celsius daily since 1969.
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Jun 1, 2020 01:45
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I'd literally like to point out that Canada is 100% still engage in honest to god real genocide against first nation peoples. Openly. Without any sort of real pushback. The only difference between Canada and the US is that the US has more people and Canada has a better and unearned reputation. Every western country is poo poo. US, Canada, any nation in Europe, the UK, Australia. All poo poo. The only difference is the timing.
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Jun 1, 2020 01:53
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Elysiume posted:Base ∞ is the optimal base because you can represent all real numbers with a single digit. Very efficient. Correction: all rational numbers.
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Jun 1, 2020 14:04
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Tashilicious posted:I'd literally like to point out that Canada is 100% still engage in honest to god real genocide against first nation peoples. Yeah but at least those non-US countries have healthcare.
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Jun 1, 2020 14:44
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Henchman of Santa posted:Yeah but at least those non-US countries have healthcare. Not really if you’re part of an indigenous community in Canada!
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Jun 1, 2020 15:07
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Henchman of Santa posted:Yeah but at least those non-US countries have healthcare. the forced sterilization is free this is true :v
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Jun 1, 2020 16:47
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Yeah it's fun. A completely plausible sentence to hear in Canada would be "I drove a kilometre to the store buy a pound of potatoes, a liter of milk, and 6 feet of rope". No english-speaking Canadian would find this wild intermixing of imperial and metric at all unusual. 
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Jun 1, 2020 20:17
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Powered Descent posted:
He tried to warn us!
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Jun 1, 2020 22:29
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Doesn't even include all the weirdness, like temperature should have even more granularity because we use F for internal body temperature and C for external world temperature, and mass should have even more granularity because for sub-pound measurement we go back to using metric measurements. Like everything is measured in pounds but if you go to a deli counter at a grocery store you buy your meat and cheese in grams.
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Jun 1, 2020 23:01
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vyelkin posted:Doesn't even include all the weirdness, like temperature should have even more granularity because we use F for internal body temperature and C for external world temperature, and mass should have even more granularity because for sub-pound measurement we go back to using metric measurements. Like everything is measured in pounds but if you go to a deli counter at a grocery store you buy your meat and cheese in grams. Unless you're buying lots of weed, then you may get ounces. And I've seen grocery stores list some things in pounds and others in kg, I think as part of deceptive sales when they hope people may not look at the units too closely.
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Jun 2, 2020 00:11
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In Denmark, we are fully metric, except for screens, which are measured in inches.
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Jun 2, 2020 06:52
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BonHair posted:In Denmark, we are fully metric, except for screens, which are measured in inches. Same here in Sweden. TVs, computer monitors and phones are inches, rest metric. Oh and tire pressure, where we use PSI or bar pretty much randomly
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Jun 2, 2020 07:10
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BonHair posted:In Denmark, we are fully metric, except for screens, which are measured in inches. Some people still use tønder land for sizes of farms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_of_land
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Jun 2, 2020 07:31
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Real pros only use weight in metric for cooking. No need for volume.
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Jun 2, 2020 09:08
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Aren't a lot of measuring cups/spoons inconsistent in size across different brands, too?
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Jun 2, 2020 09:12
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Antigravitas posted:Real pros only use weight in metric for cooking. No need for volume. I only measure my ingredients in Newtons. All the weights are customized for my altitude.
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Jun 2, 2020 10:20
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SerialKilldeer posted:Aren't a lot of measuring cups/spoons inconsistent in size across different brands, too? Can you give an example? How inconsistent do you mean?
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Jun 2, 2020 12:27
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In the UK we literally had market traders protesting and getting fined over their right to only use imperial measurements: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_Martyrs The dumb part was that they could do everything in imperial as long as they had a little tiny label giving the price in metric too. Same way we've ended up selling milk in 1.13 litre bottles - its 2 pints, everybody calls it 2 pints, but we still print 1.13 in the corner.
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Jun 2, 2020 12:27
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Subjunctive posted:Can you give an example? How inconsistent do you mean? I've got an older set that has things like 10mL tablespoons (I think it was supposed to be twice the size of a teaspoon) and I've seen a 50mL "quarter cup". Is a tablespoon supposed to be half a fluid ounce? I've never been sure about that.
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Jun 2, 2020 12:35
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Memento posted:Is a tablespoon supposed to be half a fluid ounce? I've never been sure about that. Yes. Approx 15 ml.
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Jun 2, 2020 13:02
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Double Punctuation posted:I only measure my ingredients in Newtons. All the weights are customized for my altitude. Oh yeah? I use Moles.  Makes Maillard reaction really precise.
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Jun 2, 2020 13:18
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I like to measure driving distances in AU
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Jun 2, 2020 13:49
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That’s gold, Jerry!
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Jun 2, 2020 13:51
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Memento posted:I've got an older set that has things like 10mL tablespoons (I think it was supposed to be twice the size of a teaspoon) and I've seen a 50mL "quarter cup". That 10ml spoon is a "dessert spoon" which is a measurement in between teaspoon and tablespoon that's basically no longer ever used.
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Jun 2, 2020 14:21
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vyelkin posted:That 10ml spoon is a "dessert spoon" which is a measurement in between teaspoon and tablespoon that's basically no longer ever used.
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Jun 2, 2020 14:37
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vyelkin posted:That 10ml spoon is a "dessert spoon" which is a measurement in between teaspoon and tablespoon that's basically no longer ever used. Don't you just use your dessert spoons? It's a measurement that gets used all the time here.
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Jun 2, 2020 14:43
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Yeah the dessert spoon is just the typical spoon you normally eat with. It's not got a lot of use in cooking because there's not a lot of need when you've already got teaspoons and tablespoons.
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Jun 2, 2020 18:32
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Generally you don't measure with spoons for eating and you don't eat with measuring spoons.
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Jun 2, 2020 18:42
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Shifty Nipples posted:Generally you don't measure with spoons for eating and you don't eat with measuring spoons. Eating pudding with measuring spoons was a joy of mine as a child.
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