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Honestly the only people on the list who would be outright bad inductions are Andersen, Lynch, and maybe Bettis. The backlog is stupid big.
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MourningView posted:Honestly the only people on the list who would be outright bad inductions are Andersen, Lynch, and maybe Bettis. The backlog is stupid big. Yeah, I've always been a big hall guy, and they put a loving punter in last year, so whatever, put almost all of them in there, bigger halls are better.
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MourningView posted:Honestly the only people on the list who would be outright bad inductions are Andersen, Lynch, and maybe Bettis. The backlog is stupid big. Why would one of the best kickers ever and the top scorer for not one but two different NFL franchises be a bad inductee?
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Jan 9, 2015 18:54
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Silly Burrito posted:Why would one of the best kickers ever and the top scorer for not one but two different NFL franchises be a bad inductee? because he's a kicker
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Jan 9, 2015 18:55
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MourningView posted:because he's a kicker Foot Ball
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Jan 9, 2015 18:56
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fellas: shoo-in
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Andersen should get a spot just for the time he ruined Minnesota sports forever
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Jan 9, 2015 18:56
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If we have to put another kicker in, I'd rather wait for Vinatieri or Jason Hanson.
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It is one of the most fungible positions in sports, he's only involved with a tiny handful of plays a game, and there are like 50 linemen who are deserving and who were way more important to their respective teams than he is who are not in.
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Jan 9, 2015 18:58
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MourningView posted:Honestly the only people on the list who would be outright bad inductions are Andersen, Lynch, and maybe Bettis. The backlog is stupid big. I know Terrell Davis was really really good but I'm not sure that should be enough for the hall of fame with thst short a career. He and Priest Holmes should start a hall of really good RBs. They can invite like, Warrick Dunn and Clinton Portis and Shaun Alexander
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Jan 9, 2015 18:59
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Mort should really make it in but not over more deserving players, and right now there are a poo poo ton of deserving players.
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:I know Terrell Davis was really really good but I'm not sure that should be enough for the hall of fame with thst short a career. He was better than all of those guys except maybe Priest. I get the argument against him but he was so good when he played that I have a hard time calling him a bad choice. I tend to favor peak value over longevity and be sympathetic to elite talentes whose careers were cut short due to stuff outside their control. I mean Sayers is in there, and Davis seems like at least as good a case to me.
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MourningView posted:He was better than all of those guys except maybe Priest. I get the argument against him but he was so good when he played that I have a hard time calling him a bad choice. I tend to favor peak value over longevity and be sympathetic to elite talentes whose careers were cut short due to stuff outside their control. I mean Sayers is in there, and Davis seems like at least as good a case to me. Why the gently caress isn't Bo in
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:Why the gently caress isn't Bo in There's a little bit of a difference between a guy who was the best back in the league for several full seasons and a guy who accumulated a full ten percent of his career yards on three carries.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:30
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:If we have to put another kicker in, I'd rather wait for Vinatieri or Jason Hanson.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:32
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INSPECTAH DECK posted:worst inductions of any of the major Hall of Fames. There are worse executives and stuff in the baseball one (gently caress out of here, Kenesaw Moutain Landis, Tom Yawkey, and Bowie Kuhn) but that's all I can think of off the top of my head.
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Being a boss rear end motherfucker mostly
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MourningView posted:There's a little bit of a difference between a guy who was the best back in the league for several full seasons and a guy who accumulated a full ten percent of his career yards on three carries. And never played a full season because football was a hobby. Bo would be the first inductee into a general athlete hall of fame but he probably doesn't belong in the NFL one.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:35
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The baseball Hall of Fame should kick out Kenesaw but they won't. It'd own a ton.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Seau, Pace, Coryell, Haley, Shields, Greene, Brown Doesn't the Hall still have that five inductions per year limit? I know they were talking about getting rid of it (which they should, it's stupid) but I'm pretty sure they haven't done it yet.
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Grozz Nuy posted:Doesn't the Hall still have that five inductions per year limit? I know they were talking about getting rid of it (which they should, it's stupid) but I'm pretty sure they haven't done it yet. OP said 7 was the limit so I went with that.
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Parmesan Basil posted:We have to fight against any Raider, Steeler, or Bronco getting in this year. Otherwise, Will Shields year will be tarnished! Do you just not realize how tired your gimmicks get
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MourningView posted:It is one of the most fungible positions in sports, he's only involved with a tiny handful of plays a game, and there are like 50 linemen who are deserving and who were way more important to their respective teams than he is who are not in. As a Detroit fan I can not express in words how dumb this opinion is. You don't know pain until you watch a kicker poo poo the bed three or four times in a single game.
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BigBoss posted:As a Detroit fan I can not express in words how dumb this opinion is. You don't know pain until you watch a kicker poo poo the bed three or four times in a single game. Done this in a bigger spot than you and I agree with him. Even though I might still send death threats to Lin Elliott and my team can claim the only kicker in the hall of fame who I never actually watched....yeah put everyone else in before them. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Jan 10, 2015 |
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Jan 10, 2015 05:52
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I'll step up for Morten Andersen. The guy was the gold standard for his position for a very long time and it's not like his performance fell off at the end: his FG% was 80 or better the last eight years of his 25-year career, including 25/28 in his final season at age 47. I don't know if this is the year you put him in, but he should be there.
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Jan 10, 2015 06:06
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If Bo had stayed healthy for a full career, he might be an MLB and NFL hall of famer.
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Don't let mort in it will kill me every time they replay the 1999 NFC Championship game. 
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:put another kicker in...Jason Hanson. Year 1 of eligibility in or I'm going down to Canton and trashing that fucker. The Boot Of The Empire Of Spectacular Failure (The Real One) deserves his place in the sun.
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<homer alert> Nobody's talked about him but I'd love to see Mick Tingelhoff get in. He signed as an undrafted free agent in 1962 and did not miss a game until he retired after 1978. Four Superbowl appearances, ten conference championships. </homer alert> Don Coryell should have been in years ago. Charles Haley is probably a shoe-in. I could see Kevin Greene and Junior Seau rounding out the class, although Warner getting in and then signing with Arizona would be hilarious.
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Volkerball posted:If Bo had stayed healthy for a full career, he might be an MLB and NFL hall of famer. He was an exciting but ultimately not very good baseball player
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BigBoss posted:As a Detroit fan I can not express in words how dumb this opinion is. You don't know pain until you watch a kicker poo poo the bed three or four times in a single game. Its frustrating when you have a bad one but ultimately it's still not that big an issue in the grand scheme of the teams at least relative to other positions, it's just more easily noticeable when they mess up. And over the course of a season there isn't a huge difference between good kickers and just kind of okay ones.
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MourningView posted:He was an exciting but ultimately not very good baseball player Yeah but he ran on a wall.
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Flikken posted:Yeah but he ran on a wall. this is true, i saw it
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he also broke bats on his head and legs when he struck out
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I can already see this coming, Kevin Greene is gonna not get in again and I'm gonna get mad about it. Also, Junior is probably this year's First Ballot Lock.
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"Top scorer of all time" is kind of dumb when over a third of those came from extra points and there is nothing easier in all of sports than an extra point. The best free throw shooters in the NBA have a lower percentage than the pro kickers with the most extra point misses. I don't inherently have a problem with a kicker getting in but I wish people would stop throwing that stat around as if it meant anything at all. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jan 14, 2015 |
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Ray Guy is in the Hall of Fame.
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Ray Guy absolutely deserved it too. Drafted in the 1st round and reinvented the Punter position (for what it's worth). He is unquestionably the best Punter ever
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Kickers and punters deserve to have a place in the Hall, but with such a strict ballot limit it shouldn't be surprising that voters typically leave them on the outside looking in. I think part of the reason Guy took forever to get in was that most years voters looked at him and were like "yeah, I'd vote for him but I already have these other five guys I want..." They seem to save the specialists vote for truly transcendent guys with easy narratives, which is why I think they're waiting on Vinatieri before voting in any other kicker.
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