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Job Truniht posted:The otaku thing is an actual problem in Japan that's going to take out the rest of its population within a few generations. Well having your society that enforced arranged marriages suddenly no longer do that tends to change things...
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I've been away from D&D for awhile, is Mr. Cow there a gimmick or is he genuinely insane?
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platedlizard posted:I've been away from D&D for awhile, is Mr. Cow there a gimmick or is he genuinely insane? If he is a gimmick/troll, he is sure dedicated to his story of his lost romance.
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There has been a 60% decline in the global poverty rate since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Easily the biggest and most dramatic drop in poverty in all of human history. Perhaps mankind's #1 single most important achievement in our entire existence on this Earth. It sure beats going to the moon anyways. Don't you think?
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hrm yes I wonder if that has anything to do with China and India
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Job Truniht posted:hrm yes I wonder if that has anything to do with China and India How so? Globalism and the spread of capitalism?
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CowOnCrack posted:This is what the critic does and always has done. The extreme has the power to illuminate the general. No it doesn't. You're just trying to avoid responding to the fact that societies with high rates of marriage have suffered from worse economic conditions and worse political leadership than our society does. Your personal anecdotes are not a substitute for having some actual evidence to support the sweeping claims you're making about society. quote:All tools, no matter how powerful, are just tools. It was never the tool that was evil. If used wisely such a tool could be of great benefit. The trouble is the area of life the tool operates in. I have to believe it is impossible for such a tool to not change how we think profoundly, for Good or Evil. That means we MUST think about what it is doing. We have thought about it. We're giving couples, and in particular women, the ability to choose the conditions under which they reproduce, resulting in fewer unwanted children. Stop smelling your own farts for a second and actually provide some reasons that anyone should take your warnings seriously. I dare you to come up with an argument that isn't entirely founded on very untrustworthy sounding personal anecdotes. quote:I relate to women just fine. I've grown up with and have been mentored by some wonderful role models that are women. I can tell in my life that women in general look up to me and see me as an example, not to mention attractive. In terms of being obsessed or resentful, that's just the experience of romantic love. I have had it two times in my life and both times with excessive respect for the other person, and have negotiated total rejection in the face of impossibly frustrating emotional dishonesty and immaturity. It's how women relate to me and men like me that is the issue. This person was struggling to maintain some delusion of a friendship after I had been very clear about my feelings and she was already in a relationship. She was completely unable to set an emotional boundary because she was ultimately fighting with basic biological reality. She wants me around and my support and yadda yadda yadda, but never 'that way, that way, that way'. She has no proper conception of her relationship to the opposite sex, and literally invents the delusion that I'm being disrespectful or harassing her. No wonder the suffering was so incredibly bad for both people and she finally imploded, resulting in my respectful self-exile. Massive walls of societally-conditioned delusions can be the only culprit in such silliness and self-denial. You clearly do not relate to women just fine. Job Truniht posted:The otaku thing is an actual problem in Japan that's going to take out the rest of its population within a few generations. Japan isn't a model for the rest of the world and even within Japan it's very dangerous to take a contemporary trend and assume it will continue indefinitely. Societies move in strange ways and trends often reverse themselves or move in sharply new directions. Having a none-trivial part of the population feeling profoundly alienated from society at large is a problem in many societies but there's no indication that otaku's or their equivalents are going to crowd out the rest of us. Plenty of people continue to enjoy vibrant and active social lives.
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CowOnCrack posted:I relate to women just fine. I've grown up with and have been mentored by some wonderful role models that are women. I can tell in my life that women in general look up to me and see me as an example, not to mention attractive. In terms of being obsessed or resentful, that's just the experience of romantic love. I have had it two times in my life and both times with excessive respect for the other person, and have negotiated total rejection in the face of impossibly frustrating emotional dishonesty and immaturity. It's how women relate to me and men like me that is the issue. This person was struggling to maintain some delusion of a friendship after I had been very clear about my feelings and she was already in a relationship. She was completely unable to set an emotional boundary because she was ultimately fighting with basic biological reality. She wants me around and my support and yadda yadda yadda, but never 'that way, that way, that way'. She has no proper conception of her relationship to the opposite sex, and literally invents the delusion that I'm being disrespectful or harassing her. No wonder the suffering was so incredibly bad for both people and she finally imploded, resulting in my respectful self-exile. Massive walls of societally-conditioned delusions can be the only culprit in such silliness and self-denial. Nobody's accusing you of harassment based on her account. Nobody here has even heard her account, though I am sure it would be illuminating. It's pretty obvious from your own account that you are completely incapable of understanding social boundaries, dealing with rejection or having meaningful friendships.
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Helsing posted:Japan isn't a model for the rest of the world and even within Japan it's very dangerous to take a contemporary trend and assume it will continue indefinitely. Societies move in strange ways and trends often reverse themselves or move in sharply new directions. Specifically referring to otaku means specifically referring to Japan. The only way their society is going is hard right since they have this collective hard on for and completely drink the kool-aid of Imperial Japan circa 19th and early 20th century. That said, pretty much any future violence in developed countries is going to come from the right- not from the left, as a reactionary when mixing up nationalism and global capitalism. What will become a common trend in the next 10 or 20 years in particular in the regression of perceived negative rights and the reestablishment of older social hierarchies in favor of fighting against a perceived moral decline, which will especially be directed at millennials.
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Kajeesus posted:Nobody's accusing you of harassment based on her account. Nobody here has even heard her account, though I am sure it would be illuminating. It's pretty obvious from your own account that you are completely incapable of understanding social boundaries, dealing with rejection or having meaningful friendships. Oh, you missed that thread
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Helsing posted:No it doesn't. You're just trying to avoid responding to the fact that societies with high rates of marriage have suffered from worse economic conditions and worse political leadership than our society does. I am not talking about economic or political considerations in my assessments. They don't concern me in the least. Pay attention. quote:Your personal anecdotes are not a substitute for having some actual evidence to support the sweeping claims you're making about society. I'm sorry you so devalue the personal experience of someone wiser than you. I admit that if you are looking for empirical evidence you can turn to someone better than me. In any case, empirical evidence forever lags behind reality and is not an absolute source of knowledge. The only absolute source of knowledge is divine revelation from God. quote:We have thought about it. We're giving couples, and in particular women, the ability to choose the conditions under which they reproduce, resulting in fewer unwanted children. Who the gently caress is we? You and the brainwashed collective of automata? If a woman has sex with a man she is consenting to wanting children by biological (and moral) necessity. If there are men or women who have been brainwashed to do this without wanting children, here comes the end. I'm ready. The fact that children could ever be 'unwanted' is horrifying. If you don't want children yet, do not have sex. We are all under a terrific delusion. Please take a poo poo all over me because I'm a man who wants a family and children and has abstained his whole life until that happens. A guy who NEEDS a family and children to be happy. But who the gently caress cares about me anymore? Obviously not horny brainwashed idiots like you. The Lord is my shepherd and he will prepare a table against those who trouble me. quote:You clearly do not relate to women just fine. You clearly do not know me or my relationships. My mother is a triple-board certified ER doctor (with a masters in public health, and a degree in tropical medicine, she always makes sure to add) with a ferocious temperament who raised me in the ways of female power. My greatest spiritual mentor in life is a female conductor from the middle east. I have seen things come too far in one direction and seek to argue them back into balance for the well being of all of us. Either you take my word about my life and my experiences or you prioritize your own biases against me. I don't care. CowOnCrack fucked around with this message at 21:20 on May 12, 2015 |
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Kajeesus posted:Nobody's accusing you of harassment based on her account. Nobody here has even heard her account, though I am sure it would be illuminating. It's pretty obvious from your own account that you are completely incapable of understanding social boundaries, dealing with rejection or having meaningful friendships. Nobody's doing a thing. I am now doing that thing. Gems like this breathe fire and life into my soul.
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CowOnCrack posted:If a woman has sex with a man she is consenting to wanting children by biological (and moral) necessity. If there are men or women who have been brainwashed to do this without wanting children, here comes the end. I'm ready. If a woman leaves her home without a male companion she is consenting to wanting children by being raped. Really makes you think, huh?
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CommieGIR posted:Oh, you missed that thread Why, what happened? She show up? CowOnCrack posted:Nobody's doing a thing. I am now doing that thing. Your seem committed to discrediting her, as delusional, when nobody is judging you based on things she said. You're being judged based on your description of events, which clearly paints you as in the wrong.
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Does anyone have the entire "Let's Play" from that thread? Weeding through the garbage for the gold is a lot of work.
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Take a subsistence farmer who owns their land and is able to relax in the off season, strip them of their property, and put them into a sweatshop. Boom, we just lifted that guy out of poverty, technically.
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Radbot posted:Take a subsistence farmer who owns their land and is able to relax in the off season, strip them of their property, and put them into a sweatshop. Boom, we just lifted that guy out of poverty, technically. What do you mean by "technically"? Were they better off as subsistence farmers?
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Miltank posted:
How so? What stats are you looking at to measure "better off"? Calories consumed. Life expectancy. Literacy rate. Infant mortality. Wages. There is really no need to guess on this topic. There are plenty of stats out there to look at. It's really easy to compare these numbers to before the industrial revolution and during. Should we pick a category and check?
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Kajeesus posted:Why, what happened? She show up?he He made a thread where he tried to explain how what happened was not stalking while the story made it sound EXACTLY like stalking and harassment.
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CommieGIR posted:He made a thread where he tried to explain how what happened was not stalking while the story made it sound EXACTLY like stalking and harassment. That's part of what convinced me that the guy is completely real and not a troll. It would take an expert amount of skill to pull off that level of characterization.
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CowOnCrack posted:I am not talking about economic or political considerations in my assessments. They don't concern me in the least. Pay attention. So when you claimed that the current generation is "taking out loans against the future generation in the form of debt on the scale of trillions of dollars through entitlements, " we aren't supposed to interpret this as an economic problem? quote:I'm sorry you so devalue the personal experience of someone wiser than you. I admit that if you are looking for empirical evidence you can turn to someone better than me. In any case, empirical evidence forever lags behind reality and is not an absolute source of knowledge. The only absolute source of knowledge is divine revelation from God. As the Proverb says: "Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser." My first instruction to you, o wise man, would be to reread Philippians 2:3-11 or Ephesians 4:2 and pray upon whether your comportment here is consistent with those passages. quote:Who the gently caress is we? You and the brainwashed collective of automata? If a woman has sex with a man she is consenting to wanting children by biological (and moral) necessity. If there are men or women who have been brainwashed to do this without wanting children, here comes the end. I'm ready. A woman who intentionally takes a pill containing estrogen and progesterone so that she can prevent ovulation is clearly not consenting to children when she has sex. Ditto for condoms. quote:The fact that children could ever be 'unwanted' is horrifying. If you don't want children yet, do not have sex. We are all under a terrific delusion. Please take a poo poo all over me because I'm a man who wants a family and children and has abstained his whole life until that happens. A guy who NEEDS a family and children to be happy. But who the gently caress cares about me anymore? Obviously not horny brainwashed idiots like you. The Lord is my shepherd and he will prepare a table against those who trouble me. "Horny idiots"? I think you had better also read Ephesians 4:31-32 before God preps a table for you. And since you can't stop grumbling about all the wrongs done to you, perhaps also read Philippians 2:14. quote:You clearly do not know me or my relationships. My mother is a triple-board certified ER doctor (with a masters in public health, and a degree in tropical medicine, she always makes sure to add) with a ferocious temperament who raised me in the ways of female power. My greatest spiritual mentor in life is a female conductor from the middle east. I have seen things come too far in one direction and seek to argue them back into balance for the well being of all of us. Either you take my word about my life and my experiences or you prioritize your own biases against me. I don't care. This is the same mother who you feel did not want you or care for you adequately?
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Helsing posted:So when you claimed that the current generation is "taking out loans against the future generation in the form of debt on the scale of trillions of dollars through entitlements, " we aren't supposed to interpret this as an economic problem? FYI: Here is the human time bomb that is CowOnCrack CowOnCrack posted:I didn't write her emails after she told me not to contact her. That's why I wrote the essay - in order to reach out to her indirectly when she became frightened of me. This is exactly because I agreed to no email contact with her. The purpose of the essay was to end up in her hands so we could complete the semester and it worked beautifully. I'm proud of my work. She actually didn't refer to the essay as harassment and I believe her point of view of me harassing her was more or less diffused when we met with our professor together. It's just the lingering tension between us that led her supervisor to give us both that pamphlet to protect each other, but the timing and the nature of that had an enormous negative effect on me and caused me to feel betrayed by her right before my last and most important final. Later I learned there was no formal complaint, but the trauma of that experience on top of the 10 months of everything else that happened was truly loving massive and nearly broke me in half. It's a miracle I got out of that emotional warzone and I've never been closer to God in my life.
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CowOnCrack posted:And the reason for the end of the world will be: the birth control pill. Baudolino posted:If civilization ends it will be because of a collective decison to stop breeding. probably forgetting about that green area. s'okay, lots of people do
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Something isn't right with that graph. Germany's and France's populations nearly doubled from the 1890s/early 1900s.
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Kajeesus posted:Why, what happened? She show up? She never complained against me. She was temporarily upset and ashamed. There has still been no complaint. It's good to know the real story. Helsing posted:So when you claimed that the current generation is "taking out loans against the future generation in the form of debt on the scale of trillions of dollars through entitlements, " we aren't supposed to interpret this as an economic problem? Moral problem. Paying for luxuries now with money from your children's pockets is a massive moral catastrophe. quote:As the Proverb says: "Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser." Thank you for referring to the Word of God in rebuking me. I should deal with you in a more humble manner, but I'm constantly assaulted for sharing my personal experiences. I come to view this entire internet board as threatening and that risks treating everyone in a similar manner - as they've treated me. quote:A woman who intentionally takes a pill containing estrogen and progesterone so that she can prevent ovulation is clearly not consenting to children when she has sex. Ditto for condoms. My argument is that this habit of children avoidance is incredibly harmful from a moral point of view. I am arguing that what I said before is a moral necessity. I don't disagree with this argument, I disagree with the woman's choice. She should not have sex at all. All sex outside of marriage is an abomination. "Marriage is to be held in honor among all, and the marriage bed is to be undefiled, for fornicators and adulterers God will judge." -Hebrews 14:4 Such tools have created an attitude of fornication. The reason why fornication is a sin is because it is sex without the context of marriage and children. Such a thing debases us because this is the entire purpose of sex. It risks changing our attitudes about everything in ways that I don't think I could fully comprehend even if I devoted a lifetime to study. However, I wouldn't need to do this to know it is wrong. That is because the Word of God is authoritative. Let me attempt to construct an argument. Why do we do what we do in life? Is it for ourselves? For the entirety of humanity until the 20th century, the answer was our families as children and our own families as adults. That is now changing. We have had now one full generation in the developed world that has lived for themselves and the results have practically doomed us. I see this as the result of succumbing to lust and abandoning our reproductive duties. Without our own family to love us and keep us grounded and accountable, we can so easily become monsters (both men and women.) Without our own family, we are working towards ends that are like to be foolish and unwise because we are accountable only to ourselves (or to God). This is the only fair alternative - to be celibate and live for God. That way one can devote your life to providing wisdom for God's people. The selfish unbeliever who does not know a family is a sure force for destruction and misery. quote:"Horny idiots"? I think you had better also read Ephesians 4:31-32 before God preps a table for you. And since you can't stop grumbling about all the wrongs done to you, perhaps also read Philippians 2:14. It's good to know I'm speaking with another Biblical literalist. I've never met another one on here. Speaking from one man of God to another is a totally different experience than a hostile generation of pagans. As long as we refer to the Word of God as our center I can stay level with you. This doesn't mean I won't be passionate. I'd rather be passionate than lukewarm. quote:This is the same mother who you feel did not want you or care for you adequately? Yes. She cared more about her marriage and work life than me. Although to her credit, she is a Christian and a believer, and therefore was far better off than most at doing the right thing. She was my first spiritual mentor. She however was incapable of disciplining us and also, mothers are incapable of a certain kind of discipline. My father was and still is an unbeliever. He did not discipline his children and it led to their ruin. Grace without Truth annihilates children. The Lord is now my shepherd. "Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him." -Proverbs 13:24 Rodatose posted:
It is not the decisions of the mass of people that mattered for the sins of the previous generation. Instead is the prevailing attitude of the powerful and the influence of their ideas that was devastating. It was their choices that suppressed and doomed us all.
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COC, I have only one question for you. DId the lady in question ever claim to have sent you intentional romantic signals? Did she ever, verbally, communicate any kind of interest? I know explicit statements are only 7% of communication or whatever, but I'm curious.CommieGIR posted:FYI: Here is the human time bomb that is CowOnCrack I'm readin through that old thread right now, and just got to the part where someone found what is almost certainly the essay in question. CowOnCrack posted:Hey, I didn't know aromanticism was a thing. Can't blame a guy for trying with the woman of his dreams. "Actions you need to undertake to prevent me from creeping on you (projected onto all men, obviously): a stalker's guide"
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CowOnCrack posted:It is not the decisions of the mass of people that mattered for the sins of the previous generation. Instead is the prevailing attitude of the powerful and the influence of their ideas that was devastating. It was their choices that suppressed and doomed us all. Like, let's say literally half of the people who would otherwise have children do not have children. It would be a tremendously nasty demographic bubble - and it would probably mean that in a hundred years, there are ONLY!! what, four, five billion people? Truly, the end of the human race. For that matter, what is the moral good you are blithering about? I guess you probably wanted to bait people into responding to you so you can have more martyr-mode dopamine fun times, but whatever, man; I guess I'm interested.
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CowOnCrack posted:My mother is a triple-board certified ER doctor (with a masters in public health, and a degree in tropical medicine, she always makes sure to add) with a ferocious temperament who raised me in the ways of female power. That your mother is a doctor makes your story from the previous thread about her not taking meds for being super depressed, making you poorly cooked meals that give you food poisoning, and getting mad at you if you mentioned her unsafe cooking to her all the more horrifying.
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I had a dream last night where the F-35's continuing failure to operate caused america to lose an air war, resulting in "foreign" air dominance, destruction of all us infrastructure, and the collapse of american civilization. Since no foreign country on earth has an interest in that outcome, I can only assume my dream foreigners were extraterrestrials. So to answer the OP's question, yes, in my dreams. I read this forum too much.
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When i mentioned Otaku`s i did not just mean men you know. It will affect women too ( in Korea and Japan this is already happening).I mentioned it as the thing most likely to end civilization, not that it would necessarily have this effect. Climate change and nuclear war can to a ton of damage, but som burnt out remnants would remain and they would rebuild. But a spiritual cancer from within, now that could very well end us. It`s not even about the sex or reproduction it`s all about the lack of a higher purpose which encourages nihilistic hedonism in the first world at the expense of everyone else. As long we invent som new bullshit to imbue our lifes with fake meaning we will be fine.
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Darkrenown posted:That your mother is a doctor makes your story from the previous thread about her not taking meds for being super depressed, making you poorly cooked meals that give you food poisoning, and getting mad at you if you mentioned her unsafe cooking to her all the more horrifying. I'm in the process of trying to escape my broken family life at all costs. I realize now through a series of painful experiences that its completely up to me. Oh, and also my church has been super cool for the most part.
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CowOnCrack posted:I'm in the process of trying to escape my broken family life at all costs. I realize now through a series of painful experiences that its completely up to me. Oh, and also my church has been super cool for the most part. Based on your past threads and past rants, you are broken too. Get psychological help.
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I'm the implicit understanding that because someone can only jack off to cartoons the human race will end
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Baudolino posted:But a spiritual cancer from within, now that could very well end us. It`s not even about the sex or reproduction it`s all about the lack of a higher purpose which encourages nihilistic hedonism in the first world at the expense of everyone else. As long we invent som new bullshit to imbue our lifes with fake meaning we will be fine. Hahaha what the gently caress, this is every bit as dumb as the stuff CowOnCrack has been posting. For one, Japan's low birth rate is not being primary caused by otaku culture, and the overwhelming majority of people, men or women, in Japan are not otaku. While I'm sure there are multiple causes, here's one that is almost certainly far more significant than "otakus being bad with women" - Japan's poor economy, combined with its extremely high cost of real estate, make it very difficult for young people to settle down and start a family, with many opting to continue to live with their parents even after getting married.
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Kajeesus posted:COC, I have only one question for you. DId the lady in question ever claim to have sent you intentional romantic signals? Did she ever, verbally, communicate any kind of interest? I know explicit statements are only 7% of communication or whatever, but I'm curious. I'm guessing that's a no, then. This is something you'll probably never realize, but when she "admitted" to leading you on, she was giving you an easy out to spare your feelings. Either because she wanted to remain friends, or because she was scared that you'd react poorly to a harsher rejection. She never actually did anything to lead you on, other than respect you as a friend and confidant. You could have gracefully accepted the kindest rejection imaginable, but instead you chose to barrel on and propose marriage to a girl who had already turned you down at the first sign of trouble in paradise. When this understandably freaked her out, you sent her an e-mail guide on how not to be a friendzoning bitch (when the friendzone is bullshit and she'd only admitted to leading you on to spare your feelings) and blamed her for your marriage proposal. Even this she handled with restraint, and just asked you to leave her the gently caress alone. To which you responded by publicizing your private correspondance to prove that she was totally leading you on and/or mentally ill, as well as distribute a guide on how to avoid Throughout the entire ordeal you were treated with far more restraint than deserved, and you're treating this as vindication that you're in the right. You went on an entire loving crusade against a woman for friendzoning you, because she tried to turn you down easy. She turned you down hard when you continued to blame her for your attraction, and you responded by grossly violating her privacy and harassing her through indirect contact. You should have been expelled for that. If she had chosen to press the issue, you would have been. Instead, she chose to spend some time on exchange. You chose to interpret this as proof that she was in the wrong, when all it proves is that you respond to kindness and restraint with further cruelty.
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CowOnCrack posted:Moral problem. Paying for luxuries now with money from your children's pockets is a massive moral catastrophe. Debt and spending are economic questions with a moral dimension. But either way the problem with your argument is that the economic / moral arrangements of contemporary society are better than they were in the past. Not that long ago it was common to let children starve to death or to send them to work for extremely long days instead of putting them through school. The moral crisis you keep referring to is just your lack of historical perspective. We treat children and people in general much better now than we did in even the recent past. quote:Thank you for referring to the Word of God in rebuking me. I should deal with you in a more humble manner, but I'm constantly assaulted for sharing my personal experiences. I come to view this entire internet board as threatening and that risks treating everyone in a similar manner - as they've treated me. If someone threatens you then turn the other cheek. quote:My argument is that this habit of children avoidance is incredibly harmful from a moral point of view. I am arguing that what I said before is a moral necessity. I don't disagree with this argument, I disagree with the woman's choice. She should not have sex at all. All sex outside of marriage is an abomination. God will judge. God. Not you. It's up to the government to decide questions of marriage and reproduction, and in the society you live in the government delegates much of this decision to elections and other forms of social pressure from below. It's not your place to judge these arrangements for yourself, you should focus on living your own life and stop feeling so angry about things you cannot change. quote:Such tools have created an attitude of fornication. The reason why fornication is a sin is because it is sex without the context of marriage and children. Such a thing debases us because this is the entire purpose of sex. It risks changing our attitudes about everything in ways that I don't think I could fully comprehend even if I devoted a lifetime to study. However, I wouldn't need to do this to know it is wrong. That is because the Word of God is authoritative. People have always been having sex outside of marriage. Even though in the past you could tarred and feathered or executed for it, people still did it. In fact the age at which people start having sex is higher now than it was in the recent past. quote:Let me attempt to construct an argument. Why do we do what we do in life? Is it for ourselves? For the entirety of humanity until the 20th century, the answer was our families as children and our own families as adults. That is now changing. We have had now one full generation in the developed world that has lived for themselves and the results have practically doomed us. I see this as the result of succumbing to lust and abandoning our reproductive duties. Without our own family to love us and keep us grounded and accountable, we can so easily become monsters (both men and women.) Without our own family, we are working towards ends that are like to be foolish and unwise because we are accountable only to ourselves (or to God). This is the only fair alternative - to be celibate and live for God. That way one can devote your life to providing wisdom for God's people. High marriage rates in Germany didn't magically prevent the holocaust from happening. Nothing about our society is all that different from the past. You are trying to turn the 20th century into a lost golden age when it was anything but that. People were not more faithful to their wives and they didn't treat their children better. quote:It's good to know I'm speaking with another Biblical literalist. I've never met another one on here. Speaking from one man of God to another is a totally different experience than a hostile generation of pagans. As long as we refer to the Word of God as our center I can stay level with you. This doesn't mean I won't be passionate. I'd rather be passionate than lukewarm. Without trying to be overly judgemental, this does not sound like a healthy relationship. I think you are angry at women but you don't want to admit that you're angry, and this confuses you. That confusion creates tension, and to release that tension you imagine a golden past - the 20th century - and a golden future - your death and eventual ascension to heaven - but both of these things are just mechanisms to distract you from the life you are actually living. I'm not going to get into a long debate with you about this so you'll just have to read these words and decide whether to follow through on them but you are clearly very angry: angry at your parents, angry at the woman who rejected you, angry at society, and perhaps most of all angry at yourself. Until you admit that you're angry you will never find any kind of peace, and wrapping yourself in the flag of righteousness and pretending that it's God judging people and not you is both idolatrous and guarnateed to hurt you further. Until you can stop being angry and accept the things you cannot change (i.e. your upbringing, the society in which you live, the fact that your previous romantic experience was painful) you'll never move on. And I don't really think you help yourself by coming on here and basically inviting people to tear into you.
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