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misty mountaintop posted:Yeah but...Uhhhhhhh.... Computer? A South Korean computer adds like this, a North Korean computer adds like this.
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Capitalist Computer: Cat memes Communist Computer: Grain memes
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Neutrino posted:Tetris was invented by a Soviet computer scientist. Clicked on that and saw this, a legit awesome game. 
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Oct 19, 2016 13:12
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After the success of Juche tanks: We bring you Juche computer: 
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Oct 19, 2016 13:13
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Consoles are basically soviet style communism. Everyone gets the same poo poo and depending on which regime you choose you get some unique pros and cons.
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Oct 19, 2016 13:13
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steinrokkan posted:Soviet computers were clones of Western chipsets. So they had all the downsides of those, plus shoddy build quality, plus abysmal supply and not being available for consumers. The best way to get a computer was to save up vouchers for a state sanctioned import of a Commodore or ZX Spectrum or something. There were soviet scientists who had access to mainframes for their work and enjoyment. But even in the US, PC's were originally a business tool for many years before they became popular with consumers. Even with software and games on the market most consumers had no idea what to do with a computer until the late 1990's. The early 80's builds of the Vic-20 and ZX Spectrum were great for hobbyists who knew how to do their own programming but store bought software was limited so it wasn't really a consumer computer like everyone is used to today. I learned programming in basic from the Commodore magazine so I could play simple games before anything really was available.
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kikkelivelho posted:Consoles are basically soviet style communism. Everyone gets the same poo poo and depending on which regime you choose you get some unique pros and cons. Gorbachev had the wrong kind of RAM
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Oct 19, 2016 13:14
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kikkelivelho posted:Furthermore the Soviet Union wasn't really communist in anything but name so they're not that good of an example when it comes to socialist technology and inventions. socialism and communism are different, and the soviet union was definitely socialist. even if you don't want to call them communists (because of sperg marxism), they are still an example of socialist technology. i mean its not like they called themselves the communist party at all, thats no reason to call them communists
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Oct 19, 2016 13:17
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I love having a Microsoft OS that displays ads on my desktop and tells me all about the exciting new Fall TV lineup! Basically gently caress all of you pawns and gently caress your garbage tier system that takes credit for things it had no hand in creating.
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Oct 19, 2016 13:20
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Rutibex posted:socialism and communism are different, and the soviet union was definitely socialist. even if you don't want to call them communists (because of sperg marxism), they are still an example of socialist technology. i mean its not like they called themselves the communist party at all, thats no reason to call them communists If the Soviet Union actually practiced socialism like they claimed the people living there would have been far better off. The Chinese also call themselves communists but we all know what's really going on there.
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Oct 19, 2016 13:20
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kikkelivelho posted:If the Soviet Union actually practiced socialism like they claimed the people living there would have been far better off. The Chinese also call themselves communists but we all know what's really going on there. And I bet you know The One Weird Trick that would have made it all work. Lenin hates you!
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Oct 19, 2016 13:24
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'93 internet owned, i had a sick shell account via dialup and nobody was trying to sell anybody anything we just wanted to talk about Undertow and VT100s
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Oct 19, 2016 13:23
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Oh no one of these "Maybe Communism would work this time" threads.
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Oct 19, 2016 13:32
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If capitalism were responsible for computers, it would be impossible to build your own or even take one apart, every computer would run Windows which would display more ads than it does currently, there would be very few publically accessible websites (I'm talking like less than 1,000 and you would pay ISPs a monthly subscription for website bundles similar to cable TV), all of your data would be mined without your consent in order to "recommend" to you pyramid scheme-type Facebook games with microtransactions designed to be simple enough that a child can stumble through them.
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Oct 19, 2016 13:34
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I've never seen an ad on my Windows 10. Also I don't think I could build my own GPU, and it's impossible to modify most computers, aka consoles and phones.
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Oct 19, 2016 13:34
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steinrokkan posted:I've never seen an ad on my Windows 10. Praise be to Windows.
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Oct 19, 2016 13:35
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Gamer With Dignity posted:Praise be to Windows. It's a good system, that's for sure.
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Oct 19, 2016 13:36
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"Capitalism" is a term made up by garbage 19th century hipsters to pathologize the dreadful act of people buying and selling things to each other it always exists it will always exist I'm sorry everyone.
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Oct 19, 2016 13:38
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steinrokkan posted:It's a good system, that's for sure. Sure, if you like your operating system to be developed by incompetent, degenerate fuckups.
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Oct 19, 2016 13:38
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steinrokkan posted:And I bet you know The One Weird Trick that would have made it all work. Lenin hates you! Lenin is dead, he can't do anything anymore. Ultimately the factors that bring down all good forms of government are systemic corruption, greed and selfishness. When these traits inevitably manifest in the ruling class the system is ruined no matter how good it was. Gamer With Dignity posted:If capitalism were responsible for computers, it would be impossible to build your own or even take one apart, every computer would run Windows which would display more ads than it does currently, there would be very few publically accessible websites (I'm talking like less than 1,000 and you would pay ISPs a monthly subscription for website bundles similar to cable TV), all of your data would be mined without your consent in order to "recommend" to you pyramid scheme-type Facebook games with microtransactions designed to be simple enough that a child can stumble through them. The internet is still highly socialist in nature even if large american corporations have tried to take control of it. If our "leaders" and their market overlords had their way information would never be free like it is now with the global web.
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Junkfist posted:"Capitalism" is a term made up by garbage 19th century hipsters to pathologize the dreadful act of people buying and selling things to each other it always exists it will always exist I'm sorry everyone. Just because something exists doesn't make it good.
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Junkfist posted:"Capitalism" is a term made up by garbage 19th century hipsters to pathologize the dreadful act of people buying and selling things to each other it always exists it will always exist I'm sorry everyone. nah, people were proud of the term back in the late 19th century. i have been going through the 1880 Detroit census recently, and several interesting characters are listed "profession: Capitalist"
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Gamer With Dignity posted:Sure, if you like your operating system to be developed by incompetent, degenerate fuckups. I feel I can only trust people with whom I share something.
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Rutibex posted:nah, people were proud of the term back in the late 19th century. i have been going through the 1880 Detroit census recently, and several interesting characters are listed "profession: Capitalist" That's just someone who has a lot of capital, that's not an -ism. There's no Murderism but maybe there should be.
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Oct 19, 2016 13:42
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steinrokkan posted:I feel I can only trust people with whom I share something. So you're a socialist then?
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Oct 19, 2016 13:43
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You're right it's very very bad that people can buy and sell things if they feel like it now that that's settled let's ponder the bigger questions: What would the internet look like under bullionism?
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Oct 19, 2016 13:46
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Junkfist posted:You're right it's very very bad that people can buy and sell things if they feel like it now that that's settled let's ponder the bigger questions: What would the internet look like under bullionism? Who are you talking to?
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Oct 19, 2016 13:47
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Myself like a crazy person.
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I do really appreciate the Chinese culture and work ethos even if their government has abandoned them under the guise of crony communism. The Chinese work hard to better the society they live in rather than because they feel the need to compete with everyone around them. Though this culture of national unity might also partially be a product of their relatively homogeneous society where most people are of the same race and class. When the massive explosion happened at one of the chinese docks people were all rushing to donate blood for the victims. There's an idea that the entire country in this together and that they need to work in unison to improve as a people rather than as individuals. e: also it's because of capitalism that we have companies like Intel and Nvidia taking a dominant position on the market through shady and unfair means that for some reason are allowed by the government. kikkelivelho fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Oct 19, 2016 |
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Oct 19, 2016 13:49
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kikkelivelho posted:I do really appreciate the Chinese culture and work ethos even if their government has abandoned them under the guise of crony communism. The Chinese work hard to better the society they live in rather than because they feel the need to compete with everyone around them. Though this culture of national unity might also partially be a product of their relatively homogeneous society where most people are of the same race and class. When the massive explosion happened at one of the chinese docks people were all rushing to donate blood for the victims. There's an idea that the entire country in this together and that they need to work in unison to improve as a people rather than as individuals. Listen, if you are going to troll, go for something slightly less on the nose than "Oh how I admire the strange nobility of the inscrutable Oriental".
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Oct 19, 2016 13:57
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steinrokkan posted:Listen, if you are going to troll, go for something slightly less on the nose than "Oh how I admire the strange nobility of the inscrutable Oriental". Please, I'm asian myself
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Oct 19, 2016 13:59
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steinrokkan posted:I've never seen an ad on my Windows 10. I have. On the screensaver screen with the pretty photographs there's even a button to press to get Microsoft Points or some dumb poo poo like that.
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misty mountaintop posted:there's even a button to press to get Microsoft Points or some dumb poo poo like that. They add up fast!
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Junkfist posted:You're right it's very very bad that people can buy and sell things if they feel like it now that that's settled let's ponder the bigger questions: What would the internet look like under bullionism? People would have to send Jeff Bezos a little packet of gold dust every time they wanted a new waffle iron and there'd actually be a reason to buy solid gold av cables. Beeteedubs, capitalism is mostly about having a certain kind of labor market. What you're describing is just "commerce."
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kikkelivelho kramering all over this thread i love to watch the man work
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Oct 19, 2016 23:54
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Your unlock screen would somehow involve Tetris. This would actually be awesome.
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I remember the days before corporations took over the internet. Lots of cool personal websites for every niche interest, from microbrewing to gi joe collecting and all things in between. These mostly still exist, but back then there were no no popup adds, autoplay videos, redirects, etc, unless you went to a porn site. It was a nice time. A world without predators or parasites waiting for you at every click. What I'm saying is gently caress corporate America. Vote Jill Stein.
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Tomato Burger posted:Sorry to burst your bubble, but capitalism owns you.
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Junkfist posted:"Capitalism" is a term made up by garbage 19th century hipsters to pathologize the dreadful act of people buying and selling things to each other it always exists it will always exist I'm sorry everyone. This is correct. Whenever someone bitches about "capitalism", the underlying problem is actually the result of collusion between public and private entities. Every developed country on the planet has a mixed-market system in place. The premise of this thread is flawed and the OP sucks.
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alexander the big posted:This is correct. Whenever someone bitches about "capitalism", the underlying problem is actually the result of collusion between public and private entities. Every developed country on the planet has a mixed-market system in place. Actually you suck, for not talking about computers or the internet.
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